Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader

[darylbe]

Why not just give SOME (not 30..not starting in place) of his minutes to Jaylen. Just do it for a few games. Give the kid 20 mpg no matter what stupid mistakes he makes then reassess after that. Did he hold his own? Did he outproduce Jae? Did he stop making dumb mistakes? Did teammates feed off his energy? 3 games, that's all I'm asking. Just do it before the trade deadline in case we get offers with him or Jae involved so we're better informed.

I agree. Unfortunately, the games that should be blowouts against the bottom teams- New Orleans, Minnesota, Heat, where we SHOULD be able to let him get 20-30 minutes, are entirely too close up to the final 4 minutes of the game, so that's not an option. Instead, play him against the Cavs, the Warriors, Toronto, that we aren't beating, despite majority of people here thinking we can roll with the big boys.

Win the games you're supposed to, give more playing time when we expect a loss. 5 minutes in a game is pathetic.

[Jingles]

Development takes longer than 500 minutes in the league.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Elrod is Back]

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wow.

I get the feeling if Yabusele had moved to the USA before the age of 14 we might be hearing these words in three months:

"With the first pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Guerschon Yabusele, 6-7, 290 lbs, defensive end from Notre Dame."

His agility and skills and quickness and coordination and soft hands are all amazing for a man his size. He makes Jared Sullinger look like Mike Sweetney after an all-you-can-eat bender at Royal Fork. And the Dancing Bear seems to have a real feel for the game of basketball.

[SMTBSI]

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wow.

I get the feeling if Yabusele had moved to the USA before the age of 14 we might be hearing these words in three months:

"With the first pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Guerschon Yabusele, 6-7, 290 lbs, defensive end from Notre Dame."

His agility and skills and quickness and coordination and soft hands are all amazing for a man his size. He makes Jared Sullinger look like Mike Sweetney after an all-you-can-eat bender at Royal Fork. And the Dancing Bear seems to have a real feel for the game of basketball.

Find his passing in that video especially encouraging. Against that talent level, I can imagine the temptation would be there to not trust your teammates, and just "get his". Looks like his looking-to-score/pass mix is in a pretty decent place.

And yeah, whatever else you can say about his strengths and weaknesses, he's definitely an athlete. At that size, not impossible that his body composition could deteriorate as he ages, but at the moment, there's no comparison to a guy like Sully.

[Marvel]

How's our boy, Demetrius Jackson getting along?

[Elrod is Back]

How's our boy, Demetrius Jackson getting along?

seems like a rather similar game to Rozier. Athletic and strong 6-0 2 guard trying to shift to point but not really a playmaker. Good, not great shot, and can score at D-league level. Rozier could too, but he is worthless offensively this year in the NBA. Let's hope Jackson's game doesn't wilt under the big lights if he ever gets a chance.

Supposed to be a great kid, FWIW, so if he works at his game diligently he has got a chance. But it would really help if he could be a legit point. The market for 6-0 2 guards is weak to non-existent.

[return2glory]

Yabs is looking good. He should be able to get his shot off from outside because of the high release. His outside shot looks good. He has decent handle for a big guy. He rebounds well. He is making some good passes. He is looking like he can turn out to be a really good player.

[SilverQuick]

Zizic played only 10 minutes tonight against Baskonia in Euroleague game

Zero points, 1 reb and 2 pf. Thats it. Not a good showing which was can be expected in EL imo.
Crowded rotation+very good opponents. bad games are expected.

However this is better situation for Zizic. Turkish Basketball League is one of the best Leagues if not the best in Europe beside Eurleague. Playing under wings of Blatt also will help him a lot. At the end of the season he will be a much better player than what he is now.

Boxscore =>
http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=130&seasoncode=E2016

[Gant]

Zizic played only 10 minutes tonight against Baskonia in Euroleague game

Zero points, 1 reb and 2 pf. Thats it. Not a good showing which was can be expected in EL imo.
Crowded rotation+very good opponents. bad games are expected.

However this is better situation for Zizic. Turkish Basketball League is one of the best Leagues if not the best in Europe beside Eurleague. Playing under wings of Blatt also will help him a lot. At the end of the season he will be a much better player than what he is now.

Boxscore =>
http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=130&seasoncode=E2016

Budinger, Shane Larkin, Roddy Beaubois, and Bargnani all played for Baskonia. So that's where everybody went.

[Homerclease]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

[djFan71]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

Loved Bass, but I'm not sure I can handle that many blocked dunks again...

[OFWGKTA]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

Loved Bass, but I'm not sure I can handle that many blocked dunks again...

Bass with a reliable 3 ball sounds like a nice player though

[Elrod is Back]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

I doubt they will try to dump him and will move him to anyone willing to be a "taker." And I hope they don't move him.

Yabs may never make it in the NBA. And looking at the 2016 draft, a lot of first rounders will probably never amount to much, so Yabs would be no exception if he fails, too.

But his skills and athletic gifts and size are so clear at such a young age--and the combination so rare-- it seems the smart course to keep him and see if he can be developed. The upside is very high if everything comes together. The rap against him is that he has yet to play against a high level of competition. Well he just turned 21 and he can get plenty of higher grade competition next year. Then we will see what we have got here. And if he flops, so what? He will be as good as most anyone else we could have taken at 16. Henry Ellenson, anyone? If other teams value Yabs enough to offer us something of real value, that suggests to me that others are seeing what the Cs see and it is wise to keep him. If no one offers much for him, there is no reason to move him.

For the record, Yabs is totally dominating in China and that is all we can ask of him. He is also getting better as the season progresses. His last few games have been scorchers. When Marcus Thornton (2015 2nd round pick) put up mediocre numbers in Australia last year (and in Italy this year) it established that he was not NBA material. Well, Yabs has been anything but mediocre. He is ready for the NBA come fall 2017.

By the way, Brandon Bass has had a solid NBA career as a rotation big. Yabs is bigger, stronger and has much better hands than Brandon Bass. Yabs has made more 3 point baskets in the past two weeks than Bass has made in his 12 year, 731 game NBA career. Bass is nicknamed "No Pass" Bass because of his tunnel vision on the floor; Yabs will never get a nickname like that based on what we have seen in China so far. If Yabs can be a Brandon Bass who can consistently shoot and make three-pointers he is well worth keeping around. I think his upside is considerably higher.

But that remains to be seen, and a year from now he may join Jordan Mickey in the broken dreams category. But let's keep Yabs and find out in the next couple of years what we have.

[Homerclease]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

I doubt they will try to dump him and will move him to anyone willing to be a "taker." And I hope they don't move him.

Yabs may never make it in the NBA. And looking at the 2016 draft, a lot of first rounders will probably never amount to much, so Yabs would be no exception if he fails, too.

But his skills and athletic gifts and size are so clear at such a young age--and the combination so rare-- it seems the smart course to keep him and see if he can be developed. The upside is very high if everything comes together. The rap against him is that he has yet to play against a high level of competition. Well he just turned 21 and he can get plenty of higher grade competition next year. Then we will see what we have got here. And if he flops, so what? He will be as good as most anyone else we could have taken at 16. Henry Ellenson, anyone? If other teams value Yabs enough to offer us something of real value, that suggests to me that others are seeing what the Cs see and it is wise to keep him. If no one offers much for him, there is no reason to move him.

For the record, Yabs is totally dominating in China and that is all we can ask of him. He is also getting better as the season progresses. His last few games have been scorchers. When Marcus Thornton (2015 2nd round pick) put up mediocre numbers in Australia last year (and in Italy this year) it established that he was not NBA material. Well, Yabs has been anything but mediocre. He is ready for the NBA come fall 2017.

By the way, Brandon Bass has had a solid NBA career as a rotation big. Yabs is bigger, stronger and has much better hands than Brandon Bass. Yabs has made more 3 point baskets in the past two weeks than Bass has made in his 12 year, 731 game NBA career. Bass is nicknamed "No Pass" Bass because of his tunnel vision on the floor; Yabs will never get a nickname like that based on what we have seen in China so far. If Yabs can be a Brandon Bass who can consistently shoot and make three-pointers he is well worth keeping around. I think his upside is considerably higher.

But that remains to be seen, and a year from now he may join Jordan Mickey in the broken dreams category. But let's keep Yabs and find out in the next couple of years what we have.

No thank you. If they can find someone to give a first round pick this year I jump all over it. I don't know what you guys see in this kid. He's a total zero on defense and spends 75% of his time camped beyond the arc like over the hill Antoine Walker. So what if he's dominating China. They play better defense in the D league for crying out loud

[Slax]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

Loved Bass, but I'm not sure I can handle that many blocked dunks again...

Bass with a reliable 3 ball sounds like a nice player though

Yeah I know I'm not the only one who would be pretty happy to have Brandon Bass in his prime back on the team. He was a really good role player and we were a dark horse title contender with him starting.

[djFan71]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

I doubt they will try to dump him and will move him to anyone willing to be a "taker." And I hope they don't move him.

Yabs may never make it in the NBA. And looking at the 2016 draft, a lot of first rounders will probably never amount to much, so Yabs would be no exception if he fails, too.

But his skills and athletic gifts and size are so clear at such a young age--and the combination so rare-- it seems the smart course to keep him and see if he can be developed. The upside is very high if everything comes together. The rap against him is that he has yet to play against a high level of competition. Well he just turned 21 and he can get plenty of higher grade competition next year. Then we will see what we have got here. And if he flops, so what? He will be as good as most anyone else we could have taken at 16. Henry Ellenson, anyone? If other teams value Yabs enough to offer us something of real value, that suggests to me that others are seeing what the Cs see and it is wise to keep him. If no one offers much for him, there is no reason to move him.

For the record, Yabs is totally dominating in China and that is all we can ask of him. He is also getting better as the season progresses. His last few games have been scorchers. When Marcus Thornton (2015 2nd round pick) put up mediocre numbers in Australia last year (and in Italy this year) it established that he was not NBA material. Well, Yabs has been anything but mediocre. He is ready for the NBA come fall 2017.

By the way, Brandon Bass has had a solid NBA career as a rotation big. Yabs is bigger, stronger and has much better hands than Brandon Bass. Yabs has made more 3 point baskets in the past two weeks than Bass has made in his 12 year, 731 game NBA career. Bass is nicknamed "No Pass" Bass because of his tunnel vision on the floor; Yabs will never get a nickname like that based on what we have seen in China so far. If Yabs can be a Brandon Bass who can consistently shoot and make three-pointers he is well worth keeping around. I think his upside is considerably higher.

But that remains to be seen, and a year from now he may join Jordan Mickey in the broken dreams category. But let's keep Yabs and find out in the next couple of years what we have.

No thank you. If they can find someone to give a first round pick this year I jump all over it. I don't know what you guys see in this kid. He's a total zero on defense and spends 75% of his time camped beyond the arc like over the hill Antoine Walker. So what if he's dominating China. They play better defense in the D league for crying out loud

I'd take the pick as well. His height is the big thing for me. Yes, Draymond Green is short, but he's also rare. And we're undersized at so many other positions too. If he's a beast and grabs rebounds galore, great. But, last thing we need is another 3 point shooting "big" who can't rebound or defend the paint. I haven't watched any of his games, so maybe he does those things, which would be great. But, if he doesn't, I'm all about flipping the asset.

[OFWGKTA]

Loved Bass, but I'm not sure I can handle that many blocked dunks again...

Bass with a reliable 3 ball sounds like a nice player though

Yeah I know I'm not the only one who would be pretty happy to have Brandon Bass in his prime back on the team. He was a really good role player and we were a dark horse title contender with him starting.

Yeah that's another good trade by Ainge that often gets overlooked, Bass for Big Baby was a steal of deal.

[Homerclease]

I doubt they will try to dump him and will move him to anyone willing to be a "taker." And I hope they don't move him.

Yabs may never make it in the NBA. And looking at the 2016 draft, a lot of first rounders will probably never amount to much, so Yabs would be no exception if he fails, too.

But his skills and athletic gifts and size are so clear at such a young age--and the combination so rare-- it seems the smart course to keep him and see if he can be developed. The upside is very high if everything comes together. The rap against him is that he has yet to play against a high level of competition. Well he just turned 21 and he can get plenty of higher grade competition next year. Then we will see what we have got here. And if he flops, so what? He will be as good as most anyone else we could have taken at 16. Henry Ellenson, anyone? If other teams value Yabs enough to offer us something of real value, that suggests to me that others are seeing what the Cs see and it is wise to keep him. If no one offers much for him, there is no reason to move him.

For the record, Yabs is totally dominating in China and that is all we can ask of him. He is also getting better as the season progresses. His last few games have been scorchers. When Marcus Thornton (2015 2nd round pick) put up mediocre numbers in Australia last year (and in Italy this year) it established that he was not NBA material. Well, Yabs has been anything but mediocre. He is ready for the NBA come fall 2017.

By the way, Brandon Bass has had a solid NBA career as a rotation big. Yabs is bigger, stronger and has much better hands than Brandon Bass. Yabs has made more 3 point baskets in the past two weeks than Bass has made in his 12 year, 731 game NBA career. Bass is nicknamed "No Pass" Bass because of his tunnel vision on the floor; Yabs will never get a nickname like that based on what we have seen in China so far. If Yabs can be a Brandon Bass who can consistently shoot and make three-pointers he is well worth keeping around. I think his upside is considerably higher.

But that remains to be seen, and a year from now he may join Jordan Mickey in the broken dreams category. But let's keep Yabs and find out in the next couple of years what we have.

No thank you. If they can find someone to give a first round pick this year I jump all over it. I don't know what you guys see in this kid. He's a total zero on defense and spends 75% of his time camped beyond the arc like over the hill Antoine Walker. So what if he's dominating China. They play better defense in the D league for crying out loud

I'd take the pick as well. His height is the big thing for me. Yes, Draymond Green is short, but he's also rare. And we're undersized at so many other positions too. If he's a beast and grabs rebounds galore, great. But, last thing we need is another 3 point shooting "big" who can't rebound or defend the paint. I haven't watched any of his games, so maybe he does those things, which would be great. But, if he doesn't, I'm all about flipping the asset.

Bingo

[Elrod is Back]

I hope they can find a taker for Yabs in the offseason, I see another Brandon bass at best

I doubt they will try to dump him and will move him to anyone willing to be a "taker." And I hope they don't move him.

Yabs may never make it in the NBA. And looking at the 2016 draft, a lot of first rounders will probably never amount to much, so Yabs would be no exception if he fails, too.

But his skills and athletic gifts and size are so clear at such a young age--and the combination so rare-- it seems the smart course to keep him and see if he can be developed. The upside is very high if everything comes together. The rap against him is that he has yet to play against a high level of competition. Well he just turned 21 and he can get plenty of higher grade competition next year. Then we will see what we have got here. And if he flops, so what? He will be as good as most anyone else we could have taken at 16. Henry Ellenson, anyone? If other teams value Yabs enough to offer us something of real value, that suggests to me that others are seeing what the Cs see and it is wise to keep him. If no one offers much for him, there is no reason to move him.

For the record, Yabs is totally dominating in China and that is all we can ask of him. He is also getting better as the season progresses. His last few games have been scorchers. When Marcus Thornton (2015 2nd round pick) put up mediocre numbers in Australia last year (and in Italy this year) it established that he was not NBA material. Well, Yabs has been anything but mediocre. He is ready for the NBA come fall 2017.

By the way, Brandon Bass has had a solid NBA career as a rotation big. Yabs is bigger, stronger and has much better hands than Brandon Bass. Yabs has made more 3 point baskets in the past two weeks than Bass has made in his 12 year, 731 game NBA career. Bass is nicknamed "No Pass" Bass because of his tunnel vision on the floor; Yabs will never get a nickname like that based on what we have seen in China so far. If Yabs can be a Brandon Bass who can consistently shoot and make three-pointers he is well worth keeping around. I think his upside is considerably higher.

But that remains to be seen, and a year from now he may join Jordan Mickey in the broken dreams category. But let's keep Yabs and find out in the next couple of years what we have.

No thank you. If they can find someone to give a first round pick this year I jump all over it. I don't know what you guys see in this kid. He's a total zero on defense and spends 75% of his time camped beyond the arc like over the hill Antoine Walker. So what if he's dominating China. They play better defense in the D league for crying out loud

Yabs is doing everything we could hope for in China. We do not know what the D being played in China is. Austin Ainge and the scouts who have covered Yabs in China (quoted in Keith Smith's piece) all said that he is conforming to what is done there, and he is not a concern defensively. Austin Ainge said he may develop into a solid defender. The tools are there, and by all accounts he has a high basketball IQ.

If someone offers no. 1 pick for Yabs, that would firm my resolve to keep him. And I doubt anyone will offer a 2017 no. 1 for Yabs, unless it is near the end of the first round. This is a very deep outstanding draft.