2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread

eagereyez · Post #1241 » by **eagereyez** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:25 am

GOAT recognize GOAT.

kriss73 · Post #1242 » by **kriss73** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:06 am

eagereyez wrote:

GOAT recognize GOAT.

I miss you Sam.

Who is working for? Cuban?

ProcessDoctor · Post #1243 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Is that really Sam? He looks totally different.

Post #1244 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:39 pm

kriss73 wrote:
eagereyez wrote:

GOAT recognize GOAT.

I miss you Sam.

Who is working for? Cuban?

He's hanging around Stanford, game was at Cal. Probably just swung by.

kriss73 · Post #1245 » by **kriss73** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:43 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
He's hanging around Stanford, game was at Cal. Probably just swung by.

Yeah, but that is the "Scouting Killer Look"

I bet he is secretely working for some nba team out there....it's only matter of time to hear he is ass.GM somewhere.
My 2 cents on Cuban.

cksdayoff · Post #1246 » by **cksdayoff** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:45 pm

looks like Walter White

BoomBap · Post #1247 » by **BoomBap** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:10 pm

cksdayoff wrote:looks like Walter White

He is also a total bad a** like WW

eagereyez · Post #1248 » by **eagereyez** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:20 pm

sixers238 wrote:Is that really Sam? He looks totally different.

Yes. He buzzed his head a while ago. Doesn't surprise me, this is the same guy who bought 20 identical suits to avoid decision fatigue. Meanwhile BC is strutting around like a peacock.

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jmr07019 · Post #1249 » by **jmr07019** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:33 pm

lets say Celtics are picking 1 and you guys are picking 4 and 8. Let's also assume that Fultz, Ball and Smith are going to go 1, 2 and 3.

Would you trade 4 and 8 for 1? You get the pg you need and we can take Tatum (better fit for our team) and either Issac or Markkanen? Or would you guys rather take Tatum or Jackson (don't think he's a fit next to Simmons) and hope Monk falls down to 8.

Negrodamus · Post #1250 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:41 pm

jmr07019 wrote:lets say Celtics are picking 1 and you guys are picking 4 and 8. Let's also assume that Fultz, Ball and Smith are going to go 1, 2 and 3.

Would you trade 4 and 8 for 1? You get the pg you need and we can take Tatum (better fit for our team) and either Issac or Markkanen? Or would you guys rather take Tatum or Jackson (don't think he's a fit next to Simmons) and hope Monk falls down to 8.

I'd probably take Monk at 4 and package 8 with Okafor/Noel for a young, promising star. Someone like Porter.

Snotbubbles · Post #1251 » by **Snotbubbles** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:47 pm

jmr07019 wrote:lets say Celtics are picking 1 and you guys are picking 4 and 8. Let's also assume that Fultz, Ball and Smith are going to go 1, 2 and 3.

Would you trade 4 and 8 for 1? You get the pg you need and we can take Tatum (better fit for our team) and either Issac or Markkanen? Or would you guys rather take Tatum or Jackson (don't think he's a fit next to Simmons) and hope Monk falls down to 8.

Take Jackson at 4.

Then whomever is left of Monk, Fox or Ntilinkina.

Renegade_H · Post #1252 » by **Renegade_H** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:57 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:lets say Celtics are picking 1 and you guys are picking 4 and 8. Let's also assume that Fultz, Ball and Smith are going to go 1, 2 and 3.

Would you trade 4 and 8 for 1? You get the pg you need and we can take Tatum (better fit for our team) and either Issac or Markkanen? Or would you guys rather take Tatum or Jackson (don't think he's a fit next to Simmons) and hope Monk falls down to 8.

I'd probably take Monk at 4 and package 8 with Okafor/Noel for a young, promising star. Someone like Porter.

Id keep 4 and 8. Package Okafor and 8 to get to 5. Or package Noel and 8 to get to 3.

Jackson/Ball/Tatum would be my targets with Ball being a must.

jmr07019 · Post #1253 » by **jmr07019** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:01 pm

Renegade_H wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:lets say Celtics are picking 1 and you guys are picking 4 and 8. Let's also assume that Fultz, Ball and Smith are going to go 1, 2 and 3.

Would you trade 4 and 8 for 1? You get the pg you need and we can take Tatum (better fit for our team) and either Issac or Markkanen? Or would you guys rather take Tatum or Jackson (don't think he's a fit next to Simmons) and hope Monk falls down to 8.

I'd probably take Monk at 4 and package 8 with Okafor/Noel for a young, promising star. Someone like Porter.

Id keep 4 and 8. Package Okafor and 8 to get to 5. Or package Noel and 8 to get to 3.

Jackson/Ball/Tatum would be my targets with Ball being a must.

Do you see Jackson working with Simmons? I don't. Tatum seems a much better fit for you guys but ideally (for you) drafting Ball and Monk would make you really tough to defend.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1254 » by **Unbreakable99** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:25 pm

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SelfishPlayer · Post #1255 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:58 pm

I can't recall ever seeing any shooter pump fake with that much space between him and the close out defender 1:05 min

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1:20 confirms that he will pass up an open shot to assist hunt. Is it his mentality or is it him making a conscious move due to his odd looking release and it's increased potential of being blocked over a more traditional release? You can coach his mentality, but if he knows something about the blockability of his set shot then...

He passes up another open three at 3:22 min...

cksdayoff · Post #1256 » by **cksdayoff** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:06 pm

I think Ball is a legit 3 point shooter with unlimited range. He could be elite in that area. I wouldn't touch his mechanics tbh.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1257 » by **Unbreakable99** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:29 pm

I really like Ball. Nice highlight.

sixerswillrule · Post #1258 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:54 pm

smittybanton wrote:Jonathan Isaac, conversely, has limited upside in my opinion, but perhaps the highest floor in the draft. Long, lanky with shooting touch, Isaac doesn't have an aggressive offensive mentality. Yet he projects as a plus, plus defender who will shoot the bean. A rich man's Channing Frye? Or maybe just Channing Frye. The Wolves could certainly use his defense and outside shooting next to Karl Anthony Towns.

Isaac has the height and length of a big but he moves and handles like a SF. He could be a nice option with the Lakers pick. A frontcourt of Isaac, Simmons, and Embiid would have imposing size.

Negrodamus · Post #1259 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:14 pm

cksdayoff wrote:I think Ball is a legit 3 point shooter with unlimited range. He could be elite in that area. I wouldn't touch his mechanics tbh.

He actually is limited in his range. He can only shoot from beyond the three point line. He's currently shooting 11% from 2pt jumpers. It might be because he shoots them so seldomly (5.3% of his shots are 2pt jumpers). So should anyone ever be concerned that a pumpfake is going to turn into an uncontested midrange shot? Monk has make a season out of doing that (27.4% of his shots are 2pt jumpers and he's hitting 48.5%). Then again, Monk has an actual shot to fake. Ball has a stroke that is kinda launched out of him.

cksdayoff · Post #1260 » by **cksdayoff** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:30 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:I think Ball is a legit 3 point shooter with unlimited range. He could be elite in that area. I wouldn't touch his mechanics tbh.

He actually is limited in his range. He can only shoot from beyond the three point line. He's currently shooting 11% from 2pt jumpers. It might be because he shoots them so seldomly (5.3% of his shots are 2pt jumpers). So should anyone ever be concerned that a pumpfake is going to turn into an uncontested midrange shot? Monk has make a season out of doing that (27.4% of his shots are 2pt jumpers and he's hitting 48.5%). Then again, Monk has an actual shot to fake. Ball has a stroke that is kinda launched out of him.

my bad, I meant from 3 and beyond. Ball has no midrange game and that is a definitely a concern. I'm looking at him from other Ball fans perspective where, we want to surround Simmons with shooters, and if Ball's camping out behind the 3 line, he's gonna get plenty of oppurtunities to take wide open shots. I haven't seen Ball create for himself much ( inside the 3 line ), but when he does, it looks tragic.

I'm well aware of Monk and his offensive arsenal. Main thing is, we need talent in the back court and most of these players would look nice next to Simmons and Embiid