Game 41: Pistons (18-22) @ Warriors (33-6) - 10:30 PM EST

[flow]

Scratch Hilliard for the future... Next

we could get a 2ndish rounder

For Hilliard? Not a chance.

[TurboTitan]

Kenny Smith hit it right on the head yesterday, we have no identity no style of play, we have to adjust our game to the team were playing, thats not how you win in this league.

[mercury]

What would this game look like with KCP vs. Hilliard... & JL in the lineup.
The trade pickings will be slim for available wings that can shoot & defend... who fits this criteria?

[treefi]

I wish we had Seth Curry as a backup guard. Turns out he's a REALLY good shooter, that's why we should've signed him.

[El Chivo]

Scratch Hilliard for the future... Next

we could get a 2ndish rounder

For Hilliard? Not a chance.

lulz. Hilliard isn't worth a starting spot in FC Barcelona or Fenerbahce and someone wants a 2nd rounder

[flow]

Kenny Smith hit it right on the head yesterday, we have no identity no style of play, we have to adjust our game to the team were playing, thats not how you win in this league.

That's coaching. A lot of our problem is coaching.

[Blkbrd671]

we can't get rid of rotation players in rookie contract, unless Gores decides to pay a luxury tax like the one pays Cleveland.

oh yes we can, if we are going the route of "still adding core pieces", RJ+SJ probably net us a decent return. By all indications , KCP will be worth every dollar spent on him and Dre is dre. While everyone is on their knees for TH offensive game, he's consistently exposes us defensively. If we've learned anything in SVG tenure is that he can plug a play rotation players into his system.

FYI. Stan preaches team defense, not individual defense. But, if the players don't follow directions, there isn't much he can do.

SVG's Magic had the 3rd best defense in the league one entire season once with a starting lineup of Jameer, Courtney Lee/JJ Reddick, Hedo Turk, Shard Lewis, Dwight. Now, Jameeer, Reddick and Hedo were absolutely horrible defenders, but they followed SVG's plan. Jameer is as bad or worse than RJ and Hedo as bad or worse than TH. Thus, bad defensive players can be effective if they are smart enough to follow a scheme and buy into the team concept. I am not sure the Pistons have the players to achieve that.

completely agree, and honestly it doesn't make a lot of sense that TH is a bad defender. He has great foot work offensively but fails to put the effort necessary to apply that to the defensive end. Ish smith is the smallest player on our team and i would be guess per stats he's not a plus defender, however with in our scheme and his attitude to never give up on the play leads our team to better D. I think Ish has more blocks than RJ. Think about that for a sec

[Blkbrd671]

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So many things don't make sense with this team.

not suprised, when dre's on the floor, our teammates gift him rebounds.

[Blkbrd671]

we could get a 2ndish rounder

For Hilliard? Not a chance.

lulz. Hilliard isn't worth a starting spot in FC Barcelona or Fenerbahce and someone wants a 2nd rounder

#overexaggeration

[BadMofoPimp]

oh yes we can, if we are going the route of "still adding core pieces", RJ+SJ probably net us a decent return. By all indications , KCP will be worth every dollar spent on him and Dre is dre. While everyone is on their knees for TH offensive game, he's consistently exposes us defensively. If we've learned anything in SVG tenure is that he can plug a play rotation players into his system.

FYI. Stan preaches team defense, not individual defense. But, if the players don't follow directions, there isn't much he can do.

SVG's Magic had the 3rd best defense in the league one entire season once with a starting lineup of Jameer, Courtney Lee/JJ Reddick, Hedo Turk, Shard Lewis, Dwight. Now, Jameeer, Reddick and Hedo were absolutely horrible defenders, but they followed SVG's plan. Jameer is as bad or worse than RJ and Hedo as bad or worse than TH. Thus, bad defensive players can be effective if they are smart enough to follow a scheme and buy into the team concept. I am not sure the Pistons have the players to achieve that.

completely agree, and honestly it doesn't make a lot of sense that TH is a bad defender. He has great foot work offensively but fails to put the effort necessary to apply that to the defensive end. Ish smith is the smallest player on our team and i would be guess per stats he's not a plus defender, however with in our scheme and his attitude to never give up on the play leads our team to better D. I think Ish has more blocks than RJ. Think about that for a sec

Jameer was shorter than Ish!!! Anybody could blow by Meer off the dribble. I could.

[mattao313]

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So many things don't make sense with this team.

Starters v Bench

Do people really think when Harris comes off the bench he only plays bench players now?

[mattao313]

FYI. Stan preaches team defense, not individual defense. But, if the players don't follow directions, there isn't much he can do.

SVG's Magic had the 3rd best defense in the league one entire season once with a starting lineup of Jameer, Courtney Lee/JJ Reddick, Hedo Turk, Shard Lewis, Dwight. Now, Jameeer, Reddick and Hedo were absolutely horrible defenders, but they followed SVG's plan. Jameer is as bad or worse than RJ and Hedo as bad or worse than TH. Thus, bad defensive players can be effective if they are smart enough to follow a scheme and buy into the team concept. I am not sure the Pistons have the players to achieve that.

completely agree, and honestly it doesn't make a lot of sense that TH is a bad defender. He has great foot work offensively but fails to put the effort necessary to apply that to the defensive end. Ish smith is the smallest player on our team and i would be guess per stats he's not a plus defender, however with in our scheme and his attitude to never give up on the play leads our team to better D. I think Ish has more blocks than RJ. Think about that for a sec

Jameer was shorter than Ish!!! Anybody could blow by Meer off the dribble. I could.

But the thing with the Pistons vs Orlando thing is....they had Howard we got Drummond its a big difference.

[Blkbrd671]

FYI. Stan preaches team defense, not individual defense. But, if the players don't follow directions, there isn't much he can do.

SVG's Magic had the 3rd best defense in the league one entire season once with a starting lineup of Jameer, Courtney Lee/JJ Reddick, Hedo Turk, Shard Lewis, Dwight. Now, Jameeer, Reddick and Hedo were absolutely horrible defenders, but they followed SVG's plan. Jameer is as bad or worse than RJ and Hedo as bad or worse than TH. Thus, bad defensive players can be effective if they are smart enough to follow a scheme and buy into the team concept. I am not sure the Pistons have the players to achieve that.

completely agree, and honestly it doesn't make a lot of sense that TH is a bad defender. He has great foot work offensively but fails to put the effort necessary to apply that to the defensive end. Ish smith is the smallest player on our team and i would be guess per stats he's not a plus defender, however with in our scheme and his attitude to never give up on the play leads our team to better D. I think Ish has more blocks than RJ. Think about that for a sec

Jameer was shorter than Ish!!! Anybody could blow by Meer off the dribble. I could.

i just got a image of alf breaking ankles

[ComboGuardCity]

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So many things don't make sense with this team.

Starters v Bench

Do people really think when Harris comes off the bench he only plays bench players now?

I'm talking about the rebound numbers and I'm talking about the minutes Tobias plays without Andre is absolutely most likely against bench players.

[Blkbrd671]

Starters v Bench

Do people really think when Harris comes off the bench he only plays bench players now?

I'm talking about the rebound numbers and I'm talking about the minutes Tobias plays without Andre is absolutely most likely against bench players.

i think your both right

Tobias i think actually averages more minutes off the bench than when he starts(i think) or at least similar. Difference is probably 5-10 of those minutes are now against more bench players, but teams rotations vary.

I would say TH uptick in scoring would be a indicator he's playing against lesser competition, but i think that correlates more with his increase in touches.

[Pharaoh]

Hillard did not deserve those shots

He doesn't deserve to be a nba player.

I made the call the other day about two Aussies that could do a job in the NBA, watching Hilliard has reinforced my opinion.

Why is he in the NBA? How did he get here? What does he actually do well? Is he related to SVG? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks?.... Is anybody listening to me??

So many questions.

I lol'd

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[Pharaoh]

I think Tobias is benefiting more from being the #1 option and knowing he's gonna get a lot of shots so he's not forcing anything.

Jordan used to say it was easy to drop 40 on people or teams...it's only 10 points a quarter!

3 made jumpers
4 FTs

To him that was 5 touches and he knew he'd get a lot more than 5 each quarter so dropping 40 was nothing to him

Harris put the work in over the off-season and is reaping the benefits of it! He's an absolute offensive weapon and we needed a guy like that.

IF everyone else played good enough D there's room for a poor defender dropping 20 efficiently every night

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[mattao313]

Do people really think when Harris comes off the bench he only plays bench players now?

I'm talking about the rebound numbers and I'm talking about the minutes Tobias plays without Andre is absolutely most likely against bench players.

i think your both right

Tobias i think actually averages more minutes off the bench than when he starts(i think) or at least similar. Difference is probably 5-10 of those minutes are now against more bench players, but teams rotations vary.

I would say TH uptick in scoring would be a indicator he's playing against lesser competition, but i think that correlates more with his increase in touches.

Like you said it probably has more to do with more touches, I mean he was putting up great number in the starting line up before Reggies return even last season he was as well. Everyone pretty much went into a slump once Reggie returned.