Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[Bohemian]

Not trading for a player we don't even know how old he is. Certainly not giving him money after this season.

Stereotype much?

[Roddy]

Gordon is a bad rebounder for a 6'9, athletic PF. And Ibaka should be a 6th man now.
Vucevic is not a great defender, but he can scores and rebounds.

Ibaka.. a 6th man?... why?

Because you have Horford starting as PF, and you want a real C next to him.

[jirrit]

Not trading for a player we don't even know how old he is. Certainly not giving him money after this season.

Stereotype much?

What stereotype did I use? Ain't it obvious he's older just only looking at his stats - I'm not talking about how he is looking. I don't know why you'd risk giving him big money after this season. He went from 3.7 blocks per 27 minutes when he was 22. At 27 he aint even averaging half of it in more minutes. Ok spread the floor and things but I don't really see the upside. He's away from KD & RW and only averaging 15 points on a team where he's arguably the man? Nahh, that all together makes me say no thanks. Nothing to do with stereotypes or roll eyes

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

You know and I know,
if the Celtics trade for Ibaka,
that Jeff Green is surely coming back to Boston,
that only makes sense,
he knows the system,
can start at SF after all,
and it's the "Benzo Conundrum",
the Celtics somehow will be always be linked to Green...

[Pacino62]

Not trading for a player we don't even know how old he is. Certainly not giving him money after this season.

Stereotype much?

What stereotype did I use? Ain't it obvious he's older just only looking at his stats - I'm not talking about how he is looking. I don't know why you'd risk giving him big money after this season. He went from 3.7 blocks per 27 minutes when he was 22. At 27 he aint even averaging half of it in more minutes. Ok spread the floor and things but I don't really see the upside. He's away from KD & RW and only averaging 15 points on a team where he's arguably the man? Nahh, that all together makes me say no thanks. Nothing to do with stereotypes or roll eyes

Not for nothing, but this has also been rumored for the last 2-3 years. This isn't the first time someone has said this about him. I don't think it's a stereotype at all.

[claycarver]

We need a big who can defend the 4 and 5 and even switch out onto the wing. He needs to have range out to the 3 point line, and grab boards. This kind of player would free Horford and soak up the worst downside of IT's defensive deficiencies. It would be nice if he were young, with upside, and if his value was a little depressed so he didn't cost an arm and a leg.

So...when are we trading for Noel? I'm ready to get this done.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Dragic and Olynyk to ORL
Payton, Zeller, MEM pick and BOS 2018 to Miami
Ibaka to BOS

Ibaka is 4 years younger than Milsap, shoots the 3 better, rebounds at a similar rate, and is a better shot blocker... Also, Crowder is still left to deal off for Butler.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Hey Mutombo played until he was 50. *rollseyes*

[Banks2Pierce]

Ibaka's average. Rather have Kelly and Amir.

[Bohemian]

Stereotype much?

What stereotype did I use? Ain't it obvious he's older just only looking at his stats - I'm not talking about how he is looking. I don't know why you'd risk giving him big money after this season. He went from 3.7 blocks per 27 minutes when he was 22. At 27 he aint even averaging half of it in more minutes. Ok spread the floor and things but I don't really see the upside. He's away from KD & RW and only averaging 15 points on a team where he's arguably the man? Nahh, that all together makes me say no thanks. Nothing to do with stereotypes or roll eyes

Not for nothing, but this has also been rumored for the last 2-3 years. This isn't the first time someone has said this about him. I don't think it's a stereotype at all.

It is very often used when talking about players coming from Africa, that the birth certificates are not clear. Ibaka is from Congo, if i remember well.

[pasfru]

If Ibaka's someone we're looking at, I'd rather just give up less for a true center in Noel and pay him, the young 22-year-old, rather than the rapidly declining 27-year-old.

[Pacino62]

What stereotype did I use? Ain't it obvious he's older just only looking at his stats - I'm not talking about how he is looking. I don't know why you'd risk giving him big money after this season. He went from 3.7 blocks per 27 minutes when he was 22. At 27 he aint even averaging half of it in more minutes. Ok spread the floor and things but I don't really see the upside. He's away from KD & RW and only averaging 15 points on a team where he's arguably the man? Nahh, that all together makes me say no thanks. Nothing to do with stereotypes or roll eyes

Not for nothing, but this has also been rumored for the last 2-3 years. This isn't the first time someone has said this about him. I don't think it's a stereotype at all.

It is very often used when talking about players coming from Africa, that the birth certificates are not clear. Ibaka is from Congo, if i remember well.

Yep. Just mentioning that it's definitely been discussed dating back to "15".

[Curmudgeon]

Ibaka is 4 years younger than Milsap, shoots the 3 better, rebounds at a similar rate, and is a better shot blocker... Also, Crowder is still left to deal off for Butler.

Does anyone really believer that Ibaka is only 28? As for the proposed trades, I like the one where we keep Crowder alot better.

[Bohemian]

In any case, sorry if I offended someone with my comment. It´s just that I thought the comment by Jirrit referred to the easy:
¨He´s Euro, he can´t play D¨or the ¨He´s from Africa, who knows how old is he?¨ kind of line.
Like when we first got Jerebko and somebody here called him trash without even giving him a chance to prove himself. Heck he is not a superb player but he has proven to be a good rotation player.

[jirrit]

In any case, sorry if I offended someone with my comment. It´s just that I thought the comment by Jirrit referred to the easy:
¨He´s Euro, he can´t play D¨or the ¨He´s from Africa, who knows how old is he?¨ kind of line.
Like when we first got Jerebko and somebody here called him trash without even giving him a chance to prove himself. Heck he is not a superb player but he has proven to be a good rotation player.

No man, I totally don't wanna be that stereotype kinda guy, I just honestly think, by the looks and by the stats, he ain't 27/28 but more like 31/32. Plus his stats in ORL arent what I say wow.

[Pacino62]

Works on the trade machine

Boston gets-DJ
LA gets-Melo
NY gets-Amir, Smart, Wes Johnson, Mickey, Young. Send them the "18" Brooklyn and Memphis pick.

PG-Thomas/Rozier
SG-Bradley/Rozier
SF-Crowder/Brown/Jerebko
PF-Horford/Kelly
C-DJ/Zeller

Still keep the "17". Need to sign a vet guard. Front court and starting backcourt are set though. Thoughts?

[Bohemian]

In any case, sorry if I offended someone with my comment. It´s just that I thought the comment by Jirrit referred to the easy:
¨He´s Euro, he can´t play D¨or the ¨He´s from Africa, who knows how old is he?¨ kind of line.
Like when we first got Jerebko and somebody here called him trash without even giving him a chance to prove himself. Heck he is not a superb player but he has proven to be a good rotation player.

No man, I totally don't wanna be that stereotype kinda guy, I just honestly think, by the looks and by the stats, he ain't 27/28 but more like 31/32. Plus his stats in ORL arent what I say wow.

Alright haha I don´t know, I still think he is a better option than Noel. Maybe he doesn´t fit so well in Orlando compared to his performance in OKC. We´ll see...

[CelticFaninLBC]

Ibaka is 4 years younger than Milsap, shoots the 3 better, rebounds at a similar rate, and is a better shot blocker... Also, Crowder is still left to deal off for Butler.

Does anyone really believer that Ibaka is only 28? As for the proposed trades, I like the one where we keep Crowder alot better.

I suspect some of his decline is due to leg injuries. Also 3+ blocks per game is pretty rare.

DeAndre Jordan only averages .1 blocks per game more than Ibaka btw...

[CelticFaninLBC]

We need a big who can defend the 4 and 5 and even switch out onto the wing. He needs to have range out to the 3 point line, and grab boards. This kind of player would free Horford and soak up the worst downside of IT's defensive deficiencies. It would be nice if he were young, with upside, and if his value was a little depressed so he didn't cost an arm and a leg.

So...when are we trading for Noel? I'm ready to get this done.

I suspect Stevens values big who can hit the 3 like Ibaka, over a guy like Noel.

[kenifpassion]

what about Okafor? is it possible to get him?