Around the league 2016-2017

[Sixerscan]

Time has told...

Time has told what exactly? That LaVine is a one way player who couldn't spell defense if you spotted him the first 5 letters? I would take him on the Sixers, don't get me wrong, but to act as if LaVine is some future all-star and Saric is a scrub is just wrong.

So how's Saric's defense?

Here's a chart that has Saric as one of the worst players in the NBA when it comes to rim protection. Him and Ersan are there. Embiid and Okafor artificially increase their numbers where Dario and Saric would be the absolute worst in the entire NBA if the Sixers did not have so many quality defenders at center.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1503004

You may want to read that chart again. It says players shoot around average against him at the rim.

[PhilasFinest]

51%

Time has told...

Time has told what exactly? That LaVine is a one way player who couldn't spell defense if you spotted him the first 5 letters? I would take him on the Sixers, don't get me wrong, but to act as if LaVine is some future all-star and Saric is a scrub is just wrong.

So how's Saric's defense?

Here's a chart that has Saric as one of the worst players in the NBA when it comes to rim protection. Him and Ersan are there. Embiid and Okafor artificially increase their numbers where Dario and Saric would be the absolute worst in the entire NBA if the Sixers did not have so many quality defenders at center.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1503004

Im not advocating for Saric's defense, its not very good....but since when was rim protection the only part of defense?

Also if you could properly read a chart, you'd notice that Saric may average nearly the fewest blocked shots, but he actually holds opponents to 51% at the rim, which is better than almost half that list. Guess LeBron is an awful defender too?

[SelfishPlayer]

Time has told what exactly? That LaVine is a one way player who couldn't spell defense if you spotted him the first 5 letters? I would take him on the Sixers, don't get me wrong, but to act as if LaVine is some future all-star and Saric is a scrub is just wrong.

So how's Saric's defense?

Here's a chart that has Saric as one of the worst players in the NBA when it comes to rim protection. Him and Ersan are there. Embiid and Okafor artificially increase their numbers where Dario and Saric would be the absolute worst in the entire NBA if the Sixers did not have so many quality defenders at center.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1503004

You may want to read that chart again. It says players shoot around average against him at the rim.

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

[Sixerscan]

So how's Saric's defense?

Here's a chart that has Saric as one of the worst players in the NBA when it comes to rim protection. Him and Ersan are there. Embiid and Okafor artificially increase their numbers where Dario and Saric would be the absolute worst in the entire NBA if the Sixers did not have so many quality defenders at center.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1503004

You may want to read that chart again. It says players shoot around average against him at the rim.

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

The y axis on your chart. It compares Dario to other power forwards as well as centers. Unless Guards are for some reason better at defending the rim It appears Dario is right around average.

Either you don't understand the chart that you posted or you read it wrong. Either way, can you just not be a jerk for once and move on?

[the_process]

So how's Saric's defense?

Here's a chart that has Saric as one of the worst players in the NBA when it comes to rim protection. Him and Ersan are there. Embiid and Okafor artificially increase their numbers where Dario and Saric would be the absolute worst in the entire NBA if the Sixers did not have so many quality defenders at center.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1503004

You may want to read that chart again. It says players shoot around average against him at the rim.

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

My guess would be the dotted line?

[Ericb5]

Saric competes on defense and that is more than half of the battle.

He is also a very aware and smart team defender, who is still learning the league.

Saric has been everything that we expected him to be so far.


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[Sixerscan]

You may want to read that chart again. It says players shoot around average against him at the rim.

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

My guess would be the dotted line?

That's just a correlation line or whatever you want to call it. Shows there's a positive correlation between blocking shots and defending the rim.

[the_process]

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

My guess would be the dotted line?

That's just a correlation line or whatever you want to call it. Shows there's a positive correlation between blocking shots and defending the rim.

Oh. My bad.

So, and correct me if I'm wrong... league average for FG% defended at the rim is about 52.5% according to that graph?

[SelfishPlayer]

You may want to read that chart again. It says players shoot around average against him at the rim.

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

The y axis on your chart. It compares Dario to other power forwards as well as centers. Unless Guards are for some reason better at defending the rim It appears Dario is right around average.

Either you don't understand the chart that you posted or you read it wrong. Either way, can you just not be a jerk for once and move on?

Do you have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim or not?

[Sixerscan]

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

The y axis on your chart. It compares Dario to other power forwards as well as centers. Unless Guards are for some reason better at defending the rim It appears Dario is right around average.

Either you don't understand the chart that you posted or you read it wrong. Either way, can you just not be a jerk for once and move on?

Do you have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim or not?

PM'd.

[Kobblehead]

Dario is what he is. A good rebounding but poor defending stretch four. I do think that it's worth pointing out that he seems to posses a high basketball IQ and the penchant for making winning plays.

I don't watch enough Timberwolves basketball to properly gauge how many winning plays Zach Lavine makes throughout the course of their season, but I do know that he's one of the very worst defenders in the NBA and he's a pretty dumb basketball player.

It doesn't really matter to me, either way, because I didn't like either as prospects and don't think either of them is an ideal starter. I'd always rather have cerebral players in my rotation as opposed to the alternative, though.

[eagereyez]

You may want to read that chart again. It says players shoot around average against him at the rim.

You have a stat for contested league average FG% at the rim?

Either you don't understand the chart that you posted or you read it wrong. Either way, can you just not be a jerk for once and move on?

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[SelfishPlayer]

Last chance...

[BigSleep333]

My guess would be the dotted line?

That's just a correlation line or whatever you want to call it. Shows there's a positive correlation between blocking shots and defending the rim.

Oh. My bad.

So, and correct me if I'm wrong... league average for FG% defended at the rim is about 52.5% according to that graph?

this graph doesnt show you any average and not the whole data of the league.

here are teamstats for dfg% <6 feet for teams. the average at the rim overall is around 60 %. only centers its lower for sure..
http://stats.nba.com/teams/defense-dash-lt6/#!?sort=LT_06_PCT&dir=1

here a player stats differential to the avg fg% the player is defending with gp>=20, dfga>=3. embiid trumps everybody by a mile (3,4 % advantage to the 2nd best porzingis is just gigantic!)
http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-lt6/#!?CF=GP*GE*20:FGA_LT_06*GE*3:PLAYER_NAME*E*&sort=PLUSMINUS&dir=-1

[Sixerscan]

That's just a correlation line or whatever you want to call it. Shows there's a positive correlation between blocking shots and defending the rim.

Oh. My bad.

So, and correct me if I'm wrong... league average for FG% defended at the rim is about 52.5% according to that graph?

this graph doesnt show you any average and not the whole data of the league.

here are teamstats for dfg% <6 feet for teams. the average at the rim overall is around 60 %. only centers its lower for sure..
http://stats.nba.com/teams/defense-dash-lt6/#!?sort=LT_06_PCT&dir=1

here a player stats differential to the avg fg% the player is defending with gp>=20, dfga>=3. embiid trumps everybody by a mile (3,4 % advantage to the 2nd best porzingis is just gigantic!)
http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-lt6/#!?CF=GP*GE*20:FGA_LT_06*GE*3:PLAYER_NAME*E*&sort=PLUSMINUS&dir=-1

Not sure if that's the same as "at the rim". Who knows though idk when that data is from so it's hard to cross reference.

Either way Embiid is a monster.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Looking at the latest headline. How do you guys feel about Kristaps at the 5? I personally think that's his best position and it should help rejuvenate his sophomore campaign. I think 1 v 1 defense especially against guys like Cousins/Embiid it might be an issue but team defense wise I think this should help the Knicks a lot. It's not gonna end all their defensive woes because Rose and Melo are huge negatives on that side but it should help make them more competitive.

[Kobblehead]

Porzingis at C is a huge downgrade on the glass from Noah. It just seems like an unnecessary tweak. I think he should always be a 70/30 split at PF. His length and rim protection are excellent, but I'd like him to be a better rebounder if I was going to make him a C.

[cksdayoff]

didn't realize gortat sucks so bad at rim protection

[Ericb5]

Looking at the latest headline. How do you guys feel about Kristaps at the 5? I personally think that's his best position and it should help rejuvenate his sophomore campaign. I think 1 v 1 defense especially against guys like Cousins/Embiid it might be an issue but team defense wise I think this should help the Knicks a lot. It's not gonna end all their defensive woes because Rose and Melo are huge negatives on that side but it should help make them more competitive.

I think he should stay at the 4. He isn't strong enough to play the 5 full time.


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[HartfordWhalers]

Miami and Dallas winning? Someone must have pulled amazing payout on a two team bet.