So how about Joel Embiid

[BullyKing]

Philly's got more money than they know what to do with. Jrue might be one of the only 'vets' (only 26) that might consider them and it's already been said they have interest in him. With BC at the helm, better the throws stupid money at good players than overpaying terrible ones

Holiday is hurt every other game. can't finish a season....we went down that path before the PROCESS. No Thanks!.....Offer that max to Lowry...Bring him home....if not that, we go with our draft picks..........10, 9, 8, 76ers !!

Philly's gonna need to overpay people to get them to join whats been a perennial laughing stock over the last 5 years or so. You're right though, forget Jrue, no need to add another injury issue. 20 mill to Teague? Philly's gonna have about 60 mill in cap space this offseason, they need to get some young vets

I'm not so sure that's the case anymore. Players see what everyone else sees. Philly is clearly a team on the rise and Embiid looks like the absolute truth and is a force of personality as well. For a player that is looking to win, I don't think its crazy to think they will view Philly as providing more of an opportunity to win a championship than all but a couple of teams.

[Marcus]

Scary thought (for other teams): Embiid is going to get even better.

This doesn't get talked about enough. This will be the first offseason that Embiid can actually focus on just improving his game and not rehabbing.

And dude is clearly a sponge. So a full off-season of film study on how teams and matchups played him, what he could do better when reading the defense, seeing how easily he blows by some bigs could have him touch up his handle a little, full off-season to work out kinks with 25, maybe a trip down to Houston to get the skinny on how and when to better utilize that dream like footwork in the post. C'mon man!!!

We're already seeing these adjustments as the season goes. Huge difference in patience and passing out the doubles. What looks like a full off-season of film study in defensive IQ in a few months.

People keep harping on health, I think he's fine. Dude has taken some ridiculous falls and risky chances to make a play and bounces right back up and is on to the next one. Honestly think we can breathe easy and just enjoy what we're seeing at this point.

[sixerswillrule]

Philly's gonna need to overpay people to get them to join whats been a perennial laughing stock over the last 5 years or so.

This same (lack of) logic is why every other fan base freaks out when their team loses to the Sixers, completely ignoring the fact that this is not the same team.

No, in July 2017, Philly will not need to overpay people to get them to join a team with a record of over .500 from January through April and a budding superstar (potentially two), just because they were "a perennial laughing stock" over the previous 3 years.

[76ciology]

Why is his finishing not up to par despite him being so good at everything else? Still getting his athleticism back?

Yup, I also noticed this and raised in on our board.

Still not that coordinated with his moves IMO. His IQ is advanced but his coordination is not that fluid. He also gets fouled a lot (almost 2x the FTr of KAT), so that might also explain it.

[Marcus]

Why is his finishing not up to par despite him being so good at everything else? Still getting his athleticism back?

Yup, I also noticed this and raised in on our board.

Still not that coordinated with his moves IMO. His IQ is advanced but his coordination is not that fluid. He also gets fouled a lot (almost 2x the FTr of KAT), so that might also explain it.

finishing has always been a problem along with getting moved out on the block and during boxouts. I think as you said coordination can be an issue and his base isn't always balanced out the correct way. If somebody can show teach him how to better utilize his base in those situations to get his full weight under him he'll improve there.

[Hipster Doofus]

Embiid is still a rookie. Let that sink in for a second...

[Kabookalu]

Scary thought (for other teams): Embiid is going to get even better.

This doesn't get talked about enough. This will be the first offseason that Embiid can actually focus on just improving his game and not rehabbing.

This blows my mind more than anything. The man just started playing basketball not too long ago, and missed 2 entire years of development and playing competitively, yet he can still look like one of the best defensive players in the game. If he was healthy right from the get go it'd be scary thinking how good he'd already be.

[dorkestra]

Scary thought (for other teams): Embiid is going to get even better.

This doesn't get talked about enough. This will be the first offseason that Embiid can actually focus on just improving his game and not rehabbing.

This blows my mind more than anything. The man just started playing basketball not too long ago, and missed 2 entire years of development and playing competitively, yet he can still look like one of the best defensive players in the game. If he was healthy right from the get go it'd be scary thinking how good he'd already be.

Yeah his offensive game has shown promise, but is sloppy at times. I'm excited to see his growth there. He is already pulling crap like the rip through ever since he faced Cousins. He got the call on one last night against the Raps (which frankly was a bit of BS, but I guess playing the refs is part of the game these days).

[76ers]

Scary thought (for other teams): Embiid is going to get even better.

This doesn't get talked about enough. This will be the first offseason that Embiid can actually focus on just improving his game and not rehabbing.

And dude is clearly a sponge. So a full off-season of film study on how teams and matchups played him, what he could do better when reading the defense, seeing how easily he blows by some bigs could have him touch up his handle a little, full off-season to work out kinks with 25, maybe a trip down to Houston to get the skinny on how and when to better utilize that dream like footwork in the post. C'mon man!!!

We're already seeing these adjustments as the season goes. Huge difference in patience and passing out the doubles. What looks like a full off-season of film study in defensive IQ in a few months.

People keep harping on health, I think he's fine. Dude has taken some ridiculous falls and risky chances to make a play and bounces right back up and is on to the next one. Honestly think we can breathe easy and just enjoy what we're seeing at this point.

I've watched every Sixers game this year, and Embiid soaking up knowledge about the game and learning from his mistakes couldn't be more true! He has improved so much in such a short amount of time, it's going to be incredible to see him play when he gets more experience and plays with an even better supporting cast.

Passing out of the doubles is one of the biggest improvements I've seen thus far (he can still react better in some instances).

[Sportfan73]

Holiday is hurt every other game. can't finish a season....we went down that path before the PROCESS. No Thanks!.....Offer that max to Lowry...Bring him home....if not that, we go with our draft picks..........10, 9, 8, 76ers !!

Philly's gonna need to overpay people to get them to join whats been a perennial laughing stock over the last 5 years or so. You're right though, forget Jrue, no need to add another injury issue. 20 mill to Teague? Philly's gonna have about 60 mill in cap space this offseason, they need to get some young vets

I'm not so sure that's the case anymore. Players see what everyone else sees. Philly is clearly a team on the rise and Embiid looks like the absolute truth and is a force of personality as well. For a player that is looking to win, I don't think its crazy to think they will view Philly as providing more of an opportunity to win a championship than all but a couple of teams.

Like in all seriousness if Lowry came to philly and every other eastern conference team stayed the same, what seed are we?


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[Marcus]

This doesn't get talked about enough. This will be the first offseason that Embiid can actually focus on just improving his game and not rehabbing.

And dude is clearly a sponge. So a full off-season of film study on how teams and matchups played him, what he could do better when reading the defense, seeing how easily he blows by some bigs could have him touch up his handle a little, full off-season to work out kinks with 25, maybe a trip down to Houston to get the skinny on how and when to better utilize that dream like footwork in the post. C'mon man!!!

We're already seeing these adjustments as the season goes. Huge difference in patience and passing out the doubles. What looks like a full off-season of film study in defensive IQ in a few months.

People keep harping on health, I think he's fine. Dude has taken some ridiculous falls and risky chances to make a play and bounces right back up and is on to the next one. Honestly think we can breathe easy and just enjoy what we're seeing at this point.

I've watched every Sixers game this year, and Embiid soaking up knowledge about the game and learning from his mistakes couldn't be more true! He has improved so much in such a short amount of time, it's going to be incredible to see him play when he gets more experience and plays with an even better supporting cast.

Passing out of the doubles is one of the biggest improvements I've seen thus far (he can still react better in some instances).

yeah that was the amazing part at Kansas. He was supposed to be at least a two year guy. First game against Duke he had a couple plays where you could tell he needed a ton of work. Grabbed an offensive board and had a clear lane to go back up and dunk it, he never even looked at the rim. Fast forward a few months he's doing dream shakes and they're running offense through him. In that same Duke game he damn near broke the backboard with how badly he missed a free throw. Fast forward a few months he's up around the mid 70s from the line. Just incredible. Still hasn't even been playing high level organized ball for that long to begin with and has soooo much to learn and room to improve.

[Marcus]

Scary thought (for other teams): Embiid is going to get even better.

This doesn't get talked about enough. This will be the first offseason that Embiid can actually focus on just improving his game and not rehabbing.

This blows my mind more than anything. The man just started playing basketball not too long ago, and missed 2 entire years of development and playing competitively, yet he can still look like one of the best defensive players in the game. If he was healthy right from the get go it'd be scary thinking how good he'd already be.

I was calling it coming out of Kansas. If he was healthy he was going to be in the convo with Boogie for best Center in the league by his third year which would have been now. Enough time to put on size and get acclimated to the league. Guess I was kinda wrong since it's technically his first year?

[The_Hater]

Having watched Embiid for 4 quarters last night I think the scariest part about him is that he is still does ridiculously stupid things on the court. Driving into traffic for TO's. Making high risk passes. Biting on cheap fouls. Yet he was still +20 and absolutely dominated the game. Best player on the floor.

How good will this guy be once he figures out what he's doing out there?

[mademan]

Philly's gonna need to overpay people to get them to join whats been a perennial laughing stock over the last 5 years or so. You're right though, forget Jrue, no need to add another injury issue. 20 mill to Teague? Philly's gonna have about 60 mill in cap space this offseason, they need to get some young vets

I'm not so sure that's the case anymore. Players see what everyone else sees. Philly is clearly a team on the rise and Embiid looks like the absolute truth and is a force of personality as well. For a player that is looking to win, I don't think its crazy to think they will view Philly as providing more of an opportunity to win a championship than all but a couple of teams.

Like in all seriousness if Lowry came to philly and every other eastern conference team stayed the same, what seed are we?


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I'd say top 3, tbh. But a guy like Lowry, who, relatively, hasnt been paid that much throughout his career isnt going to turn down an extra 50 mill

[rzzzzz]

If he was healthy right from the get go it'd be scary thinking how good he'd already be.

if he had been healthy, this is the third season he would be playing with LeBron and Irving. how's that for scary?

[roc]

If he was healthy right from the get go it'd be scary thinking how good he'd already be.

if he had been healthy, this is the third season he would be playing with LeBron and Irving. how's that for scary?

Or he would be playing for Minny after they trade him for Love.

[cksdayoff]

Having watched Embiid for 4 quarters last night I think the scariest part about him is that he is still does ridiculously stupid things on the court. Driving into traffic for TO's. Making high risk passes. Biting on cheap fouls. Yet he was still +20 and absolutely dominated the game. Best player on the floor.

How good will this guy be once he figures out what he's doing out there?

You should've seen the Milwaukee game.

Spoiler:

Embiid looked hungover in the first half (he doesnt drink alcohol btw). Turns out he had the beginning stages of the flu...He comes out in the second half and dominated the Bucks defensively. He literally owned the rim to 15 feet out and from baseline to baseline. The Bucks were scared to attack the basket including Giannis and Jabari. Embiid was altering shots left and right and the Bucks became a jumpshooting team for most of the second half. (Biid also destroyed Jabari 15 feet out on the right baseline when he tried to pull up for a jumper)

[ropjhk]

Was really impressed with Embiid last night. Guy still made some rookie mistakes, but he showed why he is a future superstar. He can be dominant on both ends of the court. He moved really well.

[The_Hater]

If he was healthy right from the get go it'd be scary thinking how good he'd already be.

if he had been healthy, this is the third season he would be playing with LeBron and Irving. how's that for scary?

Or he would be playing for Minny after they trade him for Love.

This makes for an interesting debate. I think the Cavs might have considered keeping a healthy Embiid whereas Wiggins was always a poor fit.

[nbafan341]

Im rooting for the sixers to get the 8th seed. They match up extremely well against the cavs and the key to beating the cavs is not to match their smallball, it's to play big. Embiid is a generational talent who will one day be in thr conversation for a top 15 player all time. If the sixers make a move at the deadline and get a sharpshooter (3/D) guy I can see them fighting a tough series against the cavs. Though very unlikely, I would not be shocked seeing them beat the cavs. Embiid is some kind of genius/freak of nature/gifted **** and goddamn he's just awesome. Prior to seeing joel finally play healthy, I would say "that's crazy, beating the cavs, wtf" but if you watch how joel plays you'd become more and more of a believer.