Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live

BigSleep333 · Post #821 » by **BigSleep333** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:03 am

im wondering..why is embiid confident he wont make the ASG? rihanna said, come back when you are an allstar...and not an allstar-starter, right? :lol:

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Post #822 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:06 am

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ratrac · Post #823 » by **ratrac** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:08 am

Daniel Ochefu got 1 vote. I did not know such NBA player existed.

Post #824 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:21 am

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This guy got more player votes than Embiid.

76ers 2020 · Post #825 » by **76ers 2020** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:26 am

nitocobola wrote:http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/01/2017-All-Star-Starters-Player-Voting-Results.pdf

Mudiay 9th in the West among guards. Pachulia above Gobert and Jokic. Kill the player voting too.

Post #826 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:14 am

Sergio Rodriquez got 8 votes. Avery Bradley got 8 votes.

Player voting needs to go.

AI_Efficiency · Post #827 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:00 am

Probably good Embiid didn't get voted an east starter. If he started 2 all star games in his first 4 years he would be eligible for a max contract worth 30% of the cap when his rookie deal is up. Now his max deal will only be 25% of the cap. Assuming he doesn't make an all NBA team this year and next year.

Ericb5 · Post #828 » by **Ericb5** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:01 am

Winejk wrote:But as someone said earlier, Giannis is going to be an all star and will be in the MVP race, yet Embiid was the best player on the floor in the Milwaukee game. Same can be said of last night. With two all stars, Lowry and DeRozan, it was all about Embiid.

Anyone watching the recent games can see the impact Embiid makes on the floor. He's playing toe to toe with some of the NBA's finest and coming out ahead.

Today though Giannis is a better player than Embiid. Embiid is still extremely raw.

I expect Embiid to be an early favorite for most improved player next season. His fg% will go way up, his turnovers and fouls will go way down, he will develop go to moves in the post, and he will challenge for the DPOY award.

I expect Embiid to eventually pass Giannis, but of course Giannis is still on a steep improvement curve, and obviously isn't standing still.

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MR28 · Post #829 » by **MR28** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:09 am

I was basically called an idiot today on the comparisons board for saying Embiid is raw.

Ericb5 · Post #830 » by **Ericb5** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:15 am

MR28 wrote:I was basically called an idiot today on the comparisons board for saying Embiid is raw.

I don't know how anyone who watches the games could argue that he isn't raw, at least on offense.

He is already a great defender, but he is still figuring out the offense.

His handle definitely needs work too. He has a natural feel for dribbling for a big man, but I think that he can improve on that.

Of course he hardly ever gets easy baskets assisted by other people. Simmons is really going to change that I think.

Simmons will have two important early jobs. One is to practice and improve on his shooting, and the other will be to get Joel the ball in position for easy baskets.

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Post #831 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:24 am

AI_Efficiency wrote:Probably good Embiid didn't get voted an east starter. If he started 2 all star games in his first 4 years he would be eligible for a max contract worth 30% of the cap when his rookie deal is up. Now his max deal will only be 25% of the cap. Assuming he doesn't make an all NBA team this year and next year.

I was saying this earlier, but with the details that came out today the new CBA switched that:

• the player was named to the All-NBA first, second, or third team, or was
named Defensive Player of the Year, in the immediately preceding
season or in two of the immediately preceding three seasons; or
• the player was NBA MVP during one of the preceding three seasons.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/01/NBA-2017-CBA-Principal-Deal-Points.pdf

So, he is still eligible for the 30%, he will just need to hit an all nba team or dpoty next year.

AI_Efficiency · Post #832 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:37 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:
AI_Efficiency wrote:Probably good Embiid didn't get voted an east starter. If he started 2 all star games in his first 4 years he would be eligible for a max contract worth 30% of the cap when his rookie deal is up. Now his max deal will only be 25% of the cap. Assuming he doesn't make an all NBA team this year and next year.

I was saying this earlier, but with the details that came out today the new CBA switched that:

• the player was named to the All-NBA first, second, or third team, or was
named Defensive Player of the Year, in the immediately preceding
season or in two of the immediately preceding three seasons; or
• the player was NBA MVP during one of the preceding three seasons.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/01/NBA-2017-CBA-Principal-Deal-Points.pdf

So, he is still eligible for the 30%, he will just need to hit an all nba team or dpoty next year.

If he stays healthy I could easily see him making an all NBA team next year. O well. If he does pay the man.

PhilasFinest · Post #833 » by **PhilasFinest** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:37 am

AI_Efficiency wrote:Probably good Embiid didn't get voted an east starter. If he started 2 all star games in his first 4 years he would be eligible for a max contract worth 30% of the cap when his rookie deal is up. Now his max deal will only be 25% of the cap. Assuming he doesn't make an all NBA team this year and next year.

You really give a **** about 5% of the cap? Seriously!?

Id much rather Embiid make all the All-Star games and All-NBA teams he can. He's our franchise player/building block.

5%.

Some people seriously crack me the hell up with this nonsense.

AI_Efficiency · Post #834 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:48 am

PhilasFinest wrote:
AI_Efficiency wrote:Probably good Embiid didn't get voted an east starter. If he started 2 all star games in his first 4 years he would be eligible for a max contract worth 30% of the cap when his rookie deal is up. Now his max deal will only be 25% of the cap. Assuming he doesn't make an all NBA team this year and next year.

You really give a **** about 5% of the cap? Seriously!?

Id much rather Embiid make all the All-Star games and All-NBA teams he can. He's our franchise player/building block.

5%.

Some people seriously crack me the hell up with this nonsense.

I mean I hope he performs well enough to get it sure. But if he was snubbed and we save money all the better. 5% is still over $5 million every year. And you win by having your players outplay their contract values, especially with max contract guys.

Post #835 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:53 am

If Embiid is ALL NBA team good before finishing his rookie deal it is clearly a great thing.
If Embiid is ALL NBA team good before finishing his rookie deal but gets snubbed for a worse but more experienced player in the voting, the upside is a player just as good and decent chunk of potential cap room.

If Embiid is not ALL NBA team good before finishing his rookie deal, that is worse than Embiid being that good, extra cap room or not.

So, hopefully Embiid is that good. But I wouldn't pick to lose cap space all else equal

AI_Efficiency · Post #836 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:55 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:If Embiid is ALL NBA team good before finishing his rookie deal it is clearly a great thing.
If Embiid is ALL NBA team good before finishing his rookie deal but gets snubbed for a worse but more experienced player in the voting, the upside is a player just as good and decent chunk of potential cap room.

If Embiid is not ALL NBA team good before finishing his rookie deal, that is worse than Embiid being that good, extra cap room or not.

So, hopefully Embiid is that good. But I wouldn't pick to lose cap space all else equal

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Kobblehead · Post #837 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:57 am

I personally think the benefits outweigh a $5 million spike in his annual salary.

- The confidence Embiid would get.
- The clout and representation the organization would get.
- The potential relationships he could build with other all-star talent.

Post #838 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:00 am

Kobblehead wrote:I personally think the benefits outweigh a $5 million spike in his annual salary.

- The confidence Embiid would get.
- The clout and representation the organization would get.
- The potential relationships he could build with other all-star talent.

If it were the all star game, I could see that. But now that it is the ALL NBA team, how many people really follow that?

deep6er · Post #839 » by **deep6er** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:08 am

PhilasFinest wrote:
AI_Efficiency wrote:Probably good Embiid didn't get voted an east starter. If he started 2 all star games in his first 4 years he would be eligible for a max contract worth 30% of the cap when his rookie deal is up. Now his max deal will only be 25% of the cap. Assuming he doesn't make an all NBA team this year and next year.

You really give a **** about 5% of the cap? Seriously!?

Id much rather Embiid make all the All-Star games and All-NBA teams he can. He's our franchise player/building block.

5%.

Some people seriously crack me the hell up with this nonsense.

I'd rather him be an all-star starter too, but don't act like 5% of the cap isn't valuable. That's pretty much the difference between signing Anthony Davis and signing Alan Crabbe.

XDevilBoiX · Post #840 » by **XDevilBoiX** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:09 am

He needs to chill on his tweets about calling other players bbq chicken or a$$holes if he wants to establish relationships. Not gonna be great if he ruffle too many feathers when we looking to add a 3rd or 4th star.