Build a Team 17.0 Rules and Discussion Thread

[br7knicks]

Shows how much I pay attention to bat. Completely forgot about middleton.

That said, I hope you guys don't reach my pick. I'll be passed out drunk by 9 tonight. This goes too slowly

[bishnykfan]

Are we acting like the season starts after the draft? Because if so, Middleton missing at most another month isn't much of a big deal, IMO.

This is the 2016-17 season. Middleton was hurt when he was drafted so anyone who took him knew that they were only going to get about 20-25 games max from him. I didn't speak to LJ about him but I think that he's played the game long enough to realize that he wasn't going to miss Middleton for only a few weeks.

[Mecca]

Are we acting like the season starts after the draft? Because if so, Middleton missing at most another month isn't much of a big deal, IMO.

This is the 2016-17 season. Middleton was hurt when he was drafted so anyone who took him knew that they were only going to get about 20-25 games max from him. I didn't speak to LJ about him but I think that he's played the game long enough to realize that he wasn't going to miss Middleton for only a few weeks.

I didn't know this, very interesting. Thank you for letting me know in advance

[Greenie]

I thought about Zack as well. Just could not stomach the defense. But With HArden it makes more sense. I figured Jose is going to build a Better Houston Rockets.

That back-court defense though...

[bishnykfan]

Are we acting like the season starts after the draft? Because if so, Middleton missing at most another month isn't much of a big deal, IMO.

This is the 2016-17 season. Middleton was hurt when he was drafted so anyone who took him knew that they were only going to get about 20-25 games max from him. I didn't speak to LJ about him but I think that he's played the game long enough to realize that he wasn't going to miss Middleton for only a few weeks.

I didn't know this, very interesting. Thank you for letting me know in advance

That's always been my assumption, I figured that was the way this has always been played. Otherwise, Middleton would have been taken higher then third round IMO. I could be wrong though so if people thought that the season would start after the draft and it would only be a 25 or so game season, feel free to correct me.

[Greenie]

I was debating Middleton at 64 for sure. If your team can make it through the regular season, then he's a great option to have in the playoffs.

He hasn't played yet this year. He could suck.

[magnumt]

SIG updated.

I can't believe both Hill and Jrue (I was targeting either one with my pick), were STILL available in Round 3. All the top PGs are gone now.

--Mags

Good Pick

Thanks Greenie!

Like I had a feeling spree8 would go Hill over Jrue because of the vet makeup of his team and he needs more scoring than passing to compliment Wade's crappy perimeter shooting, whereas I need more defense and passing to get the rock to my two go-to scorers consistently, while getting good defense.

Both myself and spree8 got the right PG to perfectly compliment our teams/needs respectively.

--Mags

[LJ4pointplay]

Re: khris, in my view you can't hold his games missed already against him. Only the games that he will miss after the judging begins should be held against him. Of course judges have every right to assume he won't be his same self, but it's an injury that he should be able to recover fine from. Especially at his age.

[IllmaticHandler]

We are basing it off of current year production I would think. IF not Embiid would not be so High etc. What would Help LJ more if is if Middleton came back this week and we can see him. Thats how I survived the Jrue pick last draft. He was only a w few days away when I picked him.

[pelifan]

I thought about Zack as well. Just could not stomach the defense. But With HArden it makes more sense. I figured Jose is going to build a Better Houston Rockets.

That back-court defense though...

for someone who hated on my team you are sure doing a great job of recreating a worse version of it.

[Mecca]

Re: khris, in my view you can't hold his games missed already against him. Only the games that he will miss after the judging begins should be held against him. Of course judges have every right to assume he won't be his same self, but it's an injury that he should be able to recover fine from. Especially at his age.

This is what I believe as well. I always figured the season starts AFTER the draft in BAT land.

Like if someone missed the first 35 games and came back last week, before the draft started, his season wouldn't have been affected by the judges, but if someone misses the first 50 games and a few weeks after the draft is over, 75% of the season would be lost for him? That makes no sense in my opinion. I figured that LJ getting Middleton would cost him only a few weeks of the regular season. Because in that case, wouldn't Jrue be penalized for missing the first quarter?

[IllmaticHandler]

Re: khris, in my view you can't hold his games missed already against him. Only the games that he will miss after the judging begins should be held against him. Of course judges have every right to assume he won't be his same self, but it's an injury that he should be able to recover fine from. Especially at his age.

This is what I believe as well. I always figured the season starts AFTER the draft in BAT land.

Like if someone missed the first 35 games and came back last week, before the draft started, his season wouldn't have been affected by the judges, but if someone misses the first 50 games and a few weeks after the draft is over, 75% of the season would be lost for him? That makes no sense in my opinion. I figured that LJ getting Middleton would cost him only a few weeks of the regular season. Because in that case, wouldn't Jrue be penalized for missing the first quarter?

He missed first quarter not for Injury Reasons. Plus like I said Earlier. Before the draft was even over Jrue Came Back He came back less than a week after picked.. If Jrue was more a month away I would have not bid on him.

[bishnykfan]

Re: khris, in my view you can't hold his games missed already against him. Only the games that he will miss after the judging begins should be held against him. Of course judges have every right to assume he won't be his same self, but it's an injury that he should be able to recover fine from. Especially at his age.

This is what I believe as well. I always figured the season starts AFTER the draft in BAT land.

Like if someone missed the first 35 games and came back last week, before the draft started, his season wouldn't have been affected by the judges, but if someone misses the first 50 games and a few weeks after the draft is over, 75% of the season would be lost for him? That makes no sense in my opinion. I figured that LJ getting Middleton would cost him only a few weeks of the regular season. Because in that case, wouldn't Jrue be penalized for missing the first quarter?

I'll leave it with the GMs. I always assumed that we were picking teams to play out the season. If you picked a guy like Khris who was injured when you picked him and out for the first half of the year, I figured he would miss half of our fantasy season as well. If the majority of people only want to judge it based on the 30 or so games after the draft is over then I'll go with that as well and instruct the judges to ignore everything pre draft.

[Mecca]

Re: khris, in my view you can't hold his games missed already against him. Only the games that he will miss after the judging begins should be held against him. Of course judges have every right to assume he won't be his same self, but it's an injury that he should be able to recover fine from. Especially at his age.

This is what I believe as well. I always figured the season starts AFTER the draft in BAT land.

Like if someone missed the first 35 games and came back last week, before the draft started, his season wouldn't have been affected by the judges, but if someone misses the first 50 games and a few weeks after the draft is over, 75% of the season would be lost for him? That makes no sense in my opinion. I figured that LJ getting Middleton would cost him only a few weeks of the regular season. Because in that case, wouldn't Jrue be penalized for missing the first quarter?

He missed first quarter not for Injury Reasons. Plus like I said Earlier. Before the draft was even over Jrue Came Back He came back less than a week after picked.. If Jrue was more a month away I would have not bid on him.

Maybe Jrue was the wrong example. If Eddy Curry broke his hand earlier in the year and came back last week, the judges wouldn't hold him accountable for missing time. However, if Curry was returning in another month, why would the judges hold all the time he's missed pre-draft against him. I don't have any weight in the game, just more curious that anything.

[El Poochio]

Damn I was eyeing Duchess of Cambridge too

By setting an alarm for the pick-up wire slots

[El Poochio]

Re: khris, in my view you can't hold his games missed already against him. Only the games that he will miss after the judging begins should be held against him. Of course judges have every right to assume he won't be his same self, but it's an injury that he should be able to recover fine from. Especially at his age.

This is what I believe as well. I always figured the season starts AFTER the draft in BAT land.

Like if someone missed the first 35 games and came back last week, before the draft started, his season wouldn't have been affected by the judges, but if someone misses the first 50 games and a few weeks after the draft is over, 75% of the season would be lost for him? That makes no sense in my opinion. I figured that LJ getting Middleton would cost him only a few weeks of the regular season. Because in that case, wouldn't Jrue be penalized for missing the first quarter?

I'll leave it with the GMs. I always assumed that we were picking teams to play out the season. If you picked a guy like Khris who was injured when you picked him and out for the first half of the year, I figured he would miss half of our fantasy season as well. If the majority of people only want to judge it based on the 30 or so games after the draft is over then I'll go with that as well and instruct the judges to ignore everything pre draft.

Maybe full season but with the conditions after the draft?

[magnumt]

Brook Lopez has made huge strides as a rim protector this year. He's pretty elite there now. His only downfall is that he doesn't like to rebound that much. Luckily, I have a guy right next to him that does.

Brook Lopez and elite defense/rim protection?!



GTFOH son, I ya, but who you trying to play.

--Mags

[Mecca]

This is what I believe as well. I always figured the season starts AFTER the draft in BAT land.

Like if someone missed the first 35 games and came back last week, before the draft started, his season wouldn't have been affected by the judges, but if someone misses the first 50 games and a few weeks after the draft is over, 75% of the season would be lost for him? That makes no sense in my opinion. I figured that LJ getting Middleton would cost him only a few weeks of the regular season. Because in that case, wouldn't Jrue be penalized for missing the first quarter?

I'll leave it with the GMs. I always assumed that we were picking teams to play out the season. If you picked a guy like Khris who was injured when you picked him and out for the first half of the year, I figured he would miss half of our fantasy season as well. If the majority of people only want to judge it based on the 30 or so games after the draft is over then I'll go with that as well and instruct the judges to ignore everything pre draft.

Maybe full season but with the conditions after the draft?

Middleton is a mid 2nd round pick if he was fully healthy. Missing another month makes him an early 3rd. If we were holding October-December against him, he shouldn't have been even a 5th round pick.

[IllmaticHandler]

This is what I believe as well. I always figured the season starts AFTER the draft in BAT land.

Like if someone missed the first 35 games and came back last week, before the draft started, his season wouldn't have been affected by the judges, but if someone misses the first 50 games and a few weeks after the draft is over, 75% of the season would be lost for him? That makes no sense in my opinion. I figured that LJ getting Middleton would cost him only a few weeks of the regular season. Because in that case, wouldn't Jrue be penalized for missing the first quarter?

He missed first quarter not for Injury Reasons. Plus like I said Earlier. Before the draft was even over Jrue Came Back He came back less than a week after picked.. If Jrue was more a month away I would have not bid on him.

Maybe Jrue was the wrong example. If Eddy Curry broke his hand earlier in the year and came back last week, the judges wouldn't hold him accountable for missing time. However, if Curry was returning in another month, why would the judges hold all the time he's missed pre-draft against him. I don't have any weight in the game, just more curious that anything.

We assume Middleton will be the same as last year. We don't know for sure. Its why I said the best thing would have been if he came back in a few days. I don't think the number of games missed should kill the team...but when you draft him, you hope he is as good as last year. Thats my main point. How do you accurately judge him if you have no current stats from this year yet. Holiday was logging games and showing you what he is doing currently so its easier to judge.

[magnumt]

I know y'all saw my man Wall last night...SHEESH! Straight killer.

I was worried there for a sec that we might actually win.

--Mags