Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

TheOGJabroni · Post #1341 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:50 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the value of Vucevic? Supposedly Orlando offered Vucevic and a 1st for Dragic, but Miami already has a center.

If Boston got involved in a 3 way deal, Vucevic would solve Boston's rebounding problem, but not sure what else he'd help with.

I was about to bring this up, but was going to swing a little bigger: Whiteside going to us. I don't think we will have any interest in Vucevic at all.

OFWGKTA · Post #1342 » by **OFWGKTA** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:59 pm

CsBsSoxPhins wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the value of Vucevic? Supposedly Orlando offered Vucevic and a 1st for Dragic, but Miami already has a center.

If Boston got involved in a 3 way deal, Vucevic would solve Boston's rebounding problem, but not sure what else he'd help with.

I was about to bring this up, but was going to swing a little bigger: Whiteside going to us. I don't think we will have any interest in Vucevic at all.

With Vucevic it's possible to maintain max space this offseason, with Whiteside it is not

TheOGJabroni · Post #1343 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:02 pm

OFWGKTA wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the value of Vucevic? Supposedly Orlando offered Vucevic and a 1st for Dragic, but Miami already has a center.

If Boston got involved in a 3 way deal, Vucevic would solve Boston's rebounding problem, but not sure what else he'd help with.

I was about to bring this up, but was going to swing a little bigger: Whiteside going to us. I don't think we will have any interest in Vucevic at all.

With Vucevic it's possible to maintain max space this offseason, with Whiteside it is not

If this is true, I would be a little more receptive to deal for him; but really, it would again be for bigger aspirations: getting great assets to bundle for Anthony Davis the moment he ever becomes "available".

If we get the #1 pick and draft Fultz, then if we can sign Gordon Hayward, try to trade Fultz, Brown (or Crowder), Vucevic (or Zizic), BK 18 1st & other future picks for him.

OFWGKTA · Post #1344 » by **OFWGKTA** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:09 pm

CsBsSoxPhins wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:I was about to bring this up, but was going to swing a little bigger: Whiteside going to us. I don't think we will have any interest in Vucevic at all.

With Vucevic it's possible to maintain max space this offseason, with Whiteside it is not

If this is true, I would be a little more receptive to deal for him; but really, it would again be for bigger aspirations: getting great assets to bundle for Anthony Davis the moment he ever becomes "available".

If we get the #1 pick and draft Fultz, then if we can sign Gordon Hayward, try to trade Fultz, Brown (or Crowder), Vucevic (or Zizic), BK 18 1st & other future picks for him.

Yeah if that's the goal, then trading for Whiteside is no go. Riley would demand at least 1 Brooklyn pick for him, I'm sure of it. Vucevic would come much cheaper, is also a beast rebounder, and has measured pretty well this year as a defender based on DRTG, DBPM, and DWS.

TheOGJabroni · Post #1345 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:12 pm

OFWGKTA wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:
With Vucevic it's possible to maintain max space this offseason, with Whiteside it is not

If this is true, I would be a little more receptive to deal for him; but really, it would again be for bigger aspirations: getting great assets to bundle for Anthony Davis the moment he ever becomes "available".

If we get the #1 pick and draft Fultz, then if we can sign Gordon Hayward, try to trade Fultz, Brown (or Crowder), Vucevic (or Zizic), BK 18 1st & other future picks for him.

Yeah if that's the goal, then trading for Whiteside is no go. Riley would demand at least 1 Brooklyn pick for him, I'm sure of it. Vucevic would come much cheaper, is also a beast rebounder, and has measured pretty well this year as a defender based on DRTG, DBPM, and DWS.

Right, I should have clarified that going for Whiteside would put us in another direction. I do wonder if Ainge would be interested in Vucevic knowing that. He checks off some weaknesses of ours.

Murta · Post #1346 » by **Murta** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:13 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the value of Vucevic? Supposedly Orlando offered Vucevic and a 1st for Dragic, but Miami already has a center.

If Boston got involved in a 3 way deal, Vucevic would solve Boston's rebounding problem, but not sure what else he'd help with.

People emphasize his defense as an issue and it is to some degree, but what I find annoying about his games is he shies away from contact, both when it comes to setting proper screens and getting to the rim as opposed to settling for long distance shots. Not sure if that type of player would help IT.
One thing I love about Chandler is he's top 3 in the art of setting screens. But he'd also likely clog the paint for IT because he can't explode to the rim anymore.

Iguodaladon · Post #1347 » by **Iguodaladon** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:25 pm

Murta wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the value of Vucevic? Supposedly Orlando offered Vucevic and a 1st for Dragic, but Miami already has a center.

If Boston got involved in a 3 way deal, Vucevic would solve Boston's rebounding problem, but not sure what else he'd help with.

People emphasize his defense as an issue and it is to some degree, but what I find annoying about his games is he shies away from contact, both when it comes to setting proper screens and getting to the rim as opposed to settling for long distance shots. Not sure if that type of player would help IT.
One thing I love about Chandler is he's top 3 in the art of setting screens. But he'd also likely clog the paint for IT because he can't explode to the rim anymore.

I think Olynyk has cornered the market on feeble 7ft jump shooters

Bohemian · Post #1348 » by **Bohemian** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:13 pm

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TheOGJabroni · Post #1349 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:36 pm

I like the idea of adding Ibaka but I can't imagine it's going to be cheap to get him since they just gave up Oladipo for him. Rather try my hand at Bogut or Nurkic.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1350 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:18 pm

No idea what Hennigan is thinking. They overpaid for Ibaka, and he's trending downward, but it made some sense as an acquisition to put him next to Vucevic and cover for his defensive limitations. Except then they gave big free agent money to Biyombo, a back-up center who's all D, no O, and Jeff Green, an average 3/4. A free agent point guard or wing would've made more sense, or cashing in Gordon/Hezonja for Jimmy Butler.

Post #1351 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:19 pm

Stephen A Smith was on the Michael Kay show and said Melo is gone by the trade deadline, and will waive his NTC to three teams. The Clippers. The Cavs.... and the Boston Celtics...

Why do I have a terrible feeling Ainge is gunna punt on future cap space and trade for this guy. He won't trade a BKN pick/Brown, but i can envision Ainge taking him on for expirings + the Memphis pick. And I'd hate that.

Wes-J · Post #1352 » by **Wes-J** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:26 pm

The Magic are a joke. I don't think they have any clue.

Bohemian · Post #1353 » by **Bohemian** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:32 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Stephen A Smith was on the Michael Kay show and said Melo is gone by the trade deadline, and will waive his NTC to three teams. The Clippers. The Cavs.... and the Boston Celtics...

Why do I have a terrible feeling Ainge is gunna punt on future cap space and trade for this guy. He won't trade a BKN pick/Brown, but i can envision Ainge taking him on for expirings + the Memphis pick. And I'd hate that.

Eh, really? Has Smith got connections?

I would add Melo if the cost was just our expirings and a future pick (non BKN)

Post #1354 » by **165bows** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:47 pm

Bohemian wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Stephen A Smith was on the Michael Kay show and said Melo is gone by the trade deadline, and will waive his NTC to three teams. The Clippers. The Cavs.... and the Boston Celtics...

Why do I have a terrible feeling Ainge is gunna punt on future cap space and trade for this guy. He won't trade a BKN pick/Brown, but i can envision Ainge taking him on for expirings + the Memphis pick. And I'd hate that.

Eh, really? Has Smith got connections?

I would add Melo if the cost was just our expirings and a future pick (non BKN)

If he does it is with the banana boat types lol.

I wouldn't give up that much for it, but a trade for Melo and Ibaka would make this season pretty interesting.

Amir/Jerebko/Rozier/Yabu/Memphis pick for Melo.

Zeller/Young/Jackson/LAC first/future boston first/Min 2017 2nd for Ibaka. Pretty light still, maybe throw Olynyk in the mix, idk.

CelticFaninLBC · Post #1355 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:02 pm

If they're blowing cap space on Melo, go get Tyson Chandler.

Post #1356 » by **165bows** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:07 pm

Crowder, Young, Mickey, LAC first to Orlando
Amir, Zeller, Rozier, Hezonja, Memphis pick to NY
Ibaka, Melo to Boston.

Still not sold but an interesting idea.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1357 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:13 pm

Iguodaladon wrote:
Murta wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:What's the value of Vucevic? Supposedly Orlando offered Vucevic and a 1st for Dragic, but Miami already has a center.

If Boston got involved in a 3 way deal, Vucevic would solve Boston's rebounding problem, but not sure what else he'd help with.

People emphasize his defense as an issue and it is to some degree, but what I find annoying about his games is he shies away from contact, both when it comes to setting proper screens and getting to the rim as opposed to settling for long distance shots. Not sure if that type of player would help IT.
One thing I love about Chandler is he's top 3 in the art of setting screens. But he'd also likely clog the paint for IT because he can't explode to the rim anymore.

I think Olynyk has cornered the market on feeble 7ft jump shooters

Look, again, I know we're worried about the cap - but getting Vucevic at a discount... He's 26 years old, if you accomodate your offensive system to him even a little bit, he can give you 18 points - maybe more - on +.500 shooting, and double-digit rebounds. Not a three-point shooter, doesn't draw fouls, and he's been considered weak defensively, but has improved this year under Vogel. He is, and has been, their best player for years.

Something like Bradley, Crowder, LAC 1st for Hezonja, Vucevic, ORL 17 unprotected? Hezonja's going to be a star, and they don't have patience to play him, he's finally getting minutes now because of injuries and making some big plays.

reload141 · Post #1358 » by **reload141** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:43 pm

http://www.inquisitr.com/3893654/nba-trade-rumors-lopez-celtics-johnson-brown-nets/

Sportsrageous reports that the Celtics and Nets may be talking about a deal that would involve Lopez, power forward Amir Johnson and small forward Jaylen Brown. There is related internet chatter that indicates that part of these negotiations may involve the possible return of the Brooklyn Nets’ 2018 first-round pick that is currently the property of the Celtics.

I think everyone needs a good laugh today, you can thank me later.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1359 » by **GoCeltics123** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:43 pm

#NOMELO train get it started

Drax · Post #1360 » by **Drax** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:49 pm

165bows wrote:Crowder, Young, Mickey, LAC first to Orlando
Amir, Zeller, Rozier, Hezonja, Memphis pick to NY
Ibaka, Melo to Boston.

Still not sold but an interesting idea.

Please tell me you are joking? I wouldn't trade Crowder straight up for Melo ...

Contract, age, play style and character do all favor Crowder.