Poll: Is Aaron Gordon tradeable ?

[MagicMadness]

I agree that nobody is 'untradeable', but the thing is, who would you trade him for? The obvious superstar names are guys we wouldn't have a chance at getting anyway. The ones we might get will only become available because of an upcoming end of contract, which means we'd be trading Gordon for a rental and the hope we can resign them.

LeBron, Durant, Kawhi, Curry, Harden, Davis, Giannis, KAT, Embiid, Lillard, etc. I struggle to see any of those guys demanding out (can definitely happen!), and a package built around Gordon alone wouldn't get it done IMO.

Paul George, Butler, DMC - maybe we could get a shot at one of these guys, but George and DMC are FAs soon, plus, giving up on AG this early on in his development just feels like a big risk for that move to blow up in our faces.

There's nobody I'd necessarily want to trade him for - but he is tradeable, if the right deal came along.

Gordon's having himself a pretty darn good January. LIke you said, I'd rather the Magic not give up on him.

[MoMM]

Would you trade him for Randle?

Hell to the no. Unless Paul George becomes available, AG isn't going anywhere.

I'll play Devil's advocate here, so we can discuss further it.

Randle is one year older, but check his stats in January: 12.6ppg, 8,8rpg and 5.1apg

Gordon is a better defender, but if you check the stats, both have 1.3 stocks combined in this season. I have Randle in my Yahoo Fantasy League (late round) and he already had 2 triple-doubles this season and one 20-rebound game, so that's why I noticed he is a good player.

Maybe it's just me, but our team lacks so much talent, that everyone seems to be better than in fact is. Our leading scorer should be at best a 3rd or 4th option on a good team, maybe not even a starter.

Aren't we overvaluing Gordon?

[drsd]

AG is still too young for us to even consider moving him. His ceiling is way too high.

Jimmy Butler is again rumored to be on the trade block. Any trade Orlando could consider would include Gordon.

Something like Butler, Lopez, and Carter-Williams (who the Magic would waive) for Fournier, Vučević, Gordon, and Orlando's 2017 and 2019 1st's, is really the minimum starting point for what I could see Chicago wanting back for Butler. They shed contracts, get young players, and get draft picks. Short term the Magic has a huge whole to fill next off-season in the FA market, but the roster has potential.

Payton/Augustin/Watson
Butler/Meeks/Wilcox
Green/Hezonja
Ibaka/Rudež
Biyambo/Lopez/Zimmerman


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[tiderulz]

AG is still too young for us to even consider moving him. His ceiling is way too high.

Jimmy Butler is again rumored to be on the trade block. Any trade Orlando could consider would include Gordon.

Something like Butler, Lopez, and Carter-Williams (who the Magic would waive) for Fournier, Vučević, Gordon, and Orlando's 2017 and 2019 1st's, is really the minimum starting point for what I could see Chicago wanting back for Butler. They shed contracts, get young players, and get draft picks. Short term the Magic has a huge whole to fill next off-season in the FA market, but the roster has potential.

Payton/Augustin/Watson
Butler/Meeks/Wilcox
Green/Hezonja
Ibaka/Rudež
Biyambo/Lopez/Zimmerman


..

thats a lot to give for Butler. I know he is a star, but the resulting team is not that good. I could see the players, or the picks, but not both.

[Max Power]

We as a franchise have a history of making questionable aka stupid decisions. Being that, trading Aaron Gordon will be the single most regrettable move this franchise commits. But sadly, nobody on this roster is untouchable.

That's a bit dramatic don't you think? I'm pretty sure allowing O'Neal to walk was the single most regrettable move this franchise makes...ever. Gordon isn't some transcendent star. Look at Dwight year 3 vs. Gordon year 3. Big difference. For Gordon to turn into that guy it needs to happen this season, and nothing makes me believe that's happening. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid, I see potential in him to be very good, but let's not act like he's the second coming of Lebron. If there's a deal that reshapes us into a contender and we have to give up Gordon, you do it.



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[OrlandoDream]

We as a franchise have a history of making questionable aka stupid decisions. Being that, trading Aaron Gordon will be the single most regrettable move this franchise commits. But sadly, nobody on this roster is untouchable.

That's a bit dramatic don't you think? I'm pretty sure allowing O'Neal to walk was the single most regrettable move this franchise makes...ever. Gordon isn't some transcendent star. Look at Dwight year 3 vs. Gordon year 3. Big difference. For Gordon to turn into that guy it needs to happen this season, and nothing makes me believe that's happening. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid, I see potential in him to be very good, but let's not act like he's the second coming of Lebron. If there's a deal that reshapes us into a contender and we have to give up Gordon, you do it.



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First comparing AG progress to Dwight just makes no sense. Lets not pretend that there are certain confounding factors(injuries, 4 coaches, new position, etc) factors that have prevented AG from having a consistent developing process. If we are to compare him to someone, Id say Kwahi Leonard is the closest candidate. Also in his 3rd year Kwahi was 22 and AG is still just 21.

Kwahi 3rd season: 13pt 6reb 2ast in 30min - all under the teachings of Pop and Forcier and 3rd year as SF

AG 3rd season: 12pt 5reb 2ast in 27min - all under the 1st season under Vogel and Forcier and 1st year as a SF

What's even more encouraging? Their PER36 are very similar.

Kwahi PER36: 15.8pt 7.7reb 2.5ast 2stl

AG PER36: 15.2pt 6.2reb 2.5ast 1ast

The future is bright for this kid. He is showing promise of elite defense and offensive success this season and now we consider trading him? The only two players that could be semi-available are Butler and Paul George and even then I still have my doubts. There is no other young superstar that is actually tradeable that we can package AG for to get an equal return. The kid has too much upside. Letting go of Shaq will always be #1 but trading AG will be right up there. Patience.

[tiderulz]

That's a bit dramatic don't you think? I'm pretty sure allowing O'Neal to walk was the single most regrettable move this franchise makes...ever. Gordon isn't some transcendent star. Look at Dwight year 3 vs. Gordon year 3. Big difference. For Gordon to turn into that guy it needs to happen this season, and nothing makes me believe that's happening. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid, I see potential in him to be very good, but let's not act like he's the second coming of Lebron. If there's a deal that reshapes us into a contender and we have to give up Gordon, you do it.



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First comparing AG progress to Dwight just makes no sense. Lets not pretend that there are certain confounding factors(injuries, 4 coaches, new position, etc) factors that have prevented AG from having a consistent developing process. If we are to compare him to someone, Id say Kwahi Leonard is the closest candidate. Also in his 3rd year Kwahi was 22 and AG is still just 21.

Kwahi 3rd season: 13pt 6reb 2ast in 30min - all under the teachings of Pop and Forcier and 3rd year as SF

AG 3rd season: 12pt 5reb 2ast in 27min - all under the 1st season under Vogel and Forcier and 1st year as a SF

What's even more encouraging? Their PER36 are very similar.

Kwahi PER36: 15.8pt 7.7reb 2.5ast 2stl

AG PER36: 15.2pt 6.2reb 2.5ast 1ast

The future is bright for this kid. He is showing promise of elite defense and offensive success this season and now we consider trading him? The only two players that could be semi-available are Butler and Paul George and even then I still have my doubts. There is no other young superstar that is actually tradeable that we can package AG for to get an equal return. The kid has too much upside. Letting go of Shaq will always be #1 but trading AG will be right up there. Patience.

I would go even further than that. We had specific big man coaches for Dwight to help him with every facet of his game, we havent had that same type of development coaches for Gordon. He is starting to show consistently, both from his play and his shooting. and the thing i like about him is that he will contribute in other ways if he isnt scoring

[OrlandoDream]

That's a bit dramatic don't you think? I'm pretty sure allowing O'Neal to walk was the single most regrettable move this franchise makes...ever. Gordon isn't some transcendent star. Look at Dwight year 3 vs. Gordon year 3. Big difference. For Gordon to turn into that guy it needs to happen this season, and nothing makes me believe that's happening. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid, I see potential in him to be very good, but let's not act like he's the second coming of Lebron. If there's a deal that reshapes us into a contender and we have to give up Gordon, you do it.



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First comparing AG progress to Dwight just makes no sense. Lets not pretend that there are certain confounding factors(injuries, 4 coaches, new position, etc) factors that have prevented AG from having a consistent developing process. If we are to compare him to someone, Id say Kwahi Leonard is the closest candidate. Also in his 3rd year Kwahi was 22 and AG is still just 21.

Kwahi 3rd season: 13pt 6reb 2ast in 30min - all under the teachings of Pop and Forcier and 3rd year as SF

AG 3rd season: 12pt 5reb 2ast in 27min - all under the 1st season under Vogel and Forcier and 1st year as a SF

What's even more encouraging? Their PER36 are very similar.

Kwahi PER36: 15.8pt 7.7reb 2.5ast 2stl

AG PER36: 15.2pt 6.2reb 2.5ast 1ast

The future is bright for this kid. He is showing promise of elite defense and offensive success this season and now we consider trading him? The only two players that could be semi-available are Butler and Paul George and even then I still have my doubts. There is no other young superstar that is actually tradeable that we can package AG for to get an equal return. The kid has too much upside. Letting go of Shaq will always be #1 but trading AG will be right up there. Patience.

I would go even further than that. We had specific big man coaches for Dwight to help him with every facet of his game, we havent had that same type of development coaches for Gordon. He is starting to show consistently, both from his play and his shooting. and the thing i like about him is that he will contribute in other ways if he isnt scoring

Last night AG took the most shots out of everyone all while covering Giannis. He missed some golden open threes to expand the lead but those shots will fall eventually. Both him and EP have been much better this year at hitting those threes. EP had a big three last night that was a pass from AG, and being contested. Extended the lead and got momentum. Those little things is what excited me about this duo.

For us to have any kind of success going forward, Ep and AG need to be the centerpiece of the game. When they are lit, team is hard to beat. I think we are now 6-1 when EP scores 20+. Only loss was that close one vs the Jazz.

[darthmerrick]

Must be overwhelmingly favorable for Orlando if we trade Gordon.

[Max Power]

That's a bit dramatic don't you think? I'm pretty sure allowing O'Neal to walk was the single most regrettable move this franchise makes...ever. Gordon isn't some transcendent star. Look at Dwight year 3 vs. Gordon year 3. Big difference. For Gordon to turn into that guy it needs to happen this season, and nothing makes me believe that's happening. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid, I see potential in him to be very good, but let's not act like he's the second coming of Lebron. If there's a deal that reshapes us into a contender and we have to give up Gordon, you do it.



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First comparing AG progress to Dwight just makes no sense. Lets not pretend that there are certain confounding factors(injuries, 4 coaches, new position, etc) factors that have prevented AG from having a consistent developing process. If we are to compare him to someone, Id say Kwahi Leonard is the closest candidate. Also in his 3rd year Kwahi was 22 and AG is still just 21.

Kwahi 3rd season: 13pt 6reb 2ast in 30min - all under the teachings of Pop and Forcier and 3rd year as SF

AG 3rd season: 12pt 5reb 2ast in 27min - all under the 1st season under Vogel and Forcier and 1st year as a SF

What's even more encouraging? Their PER36 are very similar.

Kwahi PER36: 15.8pt 7.7reb 2.5ast 2stl

AG PER36: 15.2pt 6.2reb 2.5ast 1ast

The future is bright for this kid. He is showing promise of elite defense and offensive success this season and now we consider trading him? The only two players that could be semi-available are Butler and Paul George and even then I still have my doubts. There is no other young superstar that is actually tradeable that we can package AG for to get an equal return. The kid has too much upside. Letting go of Shaq will always be #1 but trading AG will be right up there. Patience.

That's a fair assessment, I didn't take Gordon's position change into account. Keep in mind though, Howard did have 3 coaches before Stan I believe as well. Davis, BHill and maybe one other. He switched from PF to C as well.

I do 100% agree with you that Gordon is our best long term asset. This isn't a condemning of him in any way. I just believe that the franchise being in the state that it's in, nothing should truly be off the table in regards to improving it. I do think Gordon can be a really good player if and when he gets more consistent.


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