Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[Parliament10]

If Ainge can work it that the Celtics get Melo and keep IT, AB, Crowder, Horford, Brown, Smart and both Brooklyn picks then fine I willing to give it a shot.

If the Celtics have to give up one of the assets I mentioned then let Melo rot in New York. Celtics have all the leverage in this situation.

Amir, Zeller, Jerebko, Rozier, Boston 2018 1st to New York for Melo and O' Quinn

That is the only deal we should make. Don´t touch it, keep it like that.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hr75ope

O'Quinn? He's a Backup right?

I don't think that we need to include Jerebko, Rozier or O'Quinn in a Potential Trade.
Amir - Zeller - Young. They're all Expiring. That should be enough. Possibly add that Boston 2018, 1st.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=znfqyme

Personally, I'm not in for this Trade anyway. -- And I didn't like the Horford Trade, either.
We don't need to go for a Superstar.
We have the makings to Contend on our Current Roster, and with our Future Picks.

[skywalker33]

Trading for Melo is like going all-in without going in at all.

Trading for Nutkic is like robbing Peter, Fred, Larry and Jose to pay Paul.

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

That's what you think !!

[GoCeltics123]

Trading for Melo is like going all-in without going in at all.

Trading for Nutkic is like robbing Peter, Fred, Larry and Jose to pay Paul.

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

That's what you think !!

I don't think he's available for pennies skywalker, but they're pretty clearly trying to get rid of him. I think the price is a high 2nd/late 1st right now

[Homerclease]

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

That's what you think !!

I don't think he's available for pennies skywalker, but they're pretty clearly trying to get rid of him. I think the price is a high 2nd/late 1st right now

And it our situation that equals pennies. But please sky walker, tell us how Gallo is worth 2 Brooklyn picks again.

[skywalker33]

Trading for Melo is like going all-in without going in at all.

Trading for Nutkic is like robbing Peter, Fred, Larry and Jose to pay Paul.

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

If you thought Sullinger was fat and out of shape, wait till you see Nurkic. There's a reason why the Nuggets are dumping him, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he can't play with Jokic. Good players can almost always play with good players..

You are SOOO wrong again !! Nurkic dropped 35lbs this off-season, going from 280lbs to 245lbs working with our trainer. The reason has nothing to do with him not being able to play with Jokic or not being a good player, it's because Nurkic is playing BEHIND Jokic and he wants more minutes, believes he should be a starter. He's a very good player with room to get better, he easily has double-double potential as he demonstrated early in the season when he was starting. He does need to work on h is game a bit, has a tendency to rush things which has led to some turnovers.

[Darth Celtic]

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

If you thought Sullinger was fat and out of shape, wait till you see Nurkic. There's a reason why the Nuggets are dumping him, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he can't play with Jokic. Good players can almost always play with good players..

You are SOOO wrong again !! Nurkic dropped 35lbs this off-season, going from 280lbs to 245lbs working with our trainer. The reason has nothing to do with him not being able to play with Jokic or not being a good player, it's because Nurkic is playing BEHIND Jokic and he wants more minutes, believes he should be a starter. He's a very good player with room to get better, he easily has double-double potential as he demonstrated early in the season when he was starting. He does need to work on h is game a bit, has a tendency to rush things which has led to some turnovers.

Then go back to your board and circle jerk about him. We won't give up value for him and you can keep him for your championship run (otherwise known as trying for the 8th seed for the next 5 years and most likely failing at it).

[klemen4]

imo Nurkic is worth a 1st and a couple of 2nd rounders. Drfat pick imo are overated, expecially low first rounders and 2nd rounders. come on what we will do with all the 2nds.

[Captain_Caveman]

Trading for Melo is like going all-in without going in at all.

Trading for Nutkic is like robbing Peter, Fred, Larry and Jose to pay Paul.

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

I'm talking about even playing him. He would improve our rebounding at the expense of everything else. The guy is a fat slob and he sucks.

[Homerclease]

Trading for Melo is like going all-in without going in at all.

Trading for Nutkic is like robbing Peter, Fred, Larry and Jose to pay Paul.

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

I'm talking about even playing him. He would improve our rebounding at the expense of everything else. The guy is a fat slob and he sucks.

Improving our rebounding is the solution to everything else. I don't see him hurting our ballmovement or defense at all, especially seeing as he'd be replacing the corpse of Amir

[Captain_Caveman]

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

If you thought Sullinger was fat and out of shape, wait till you see Nurkic. There's a reason why the Nuggets are dumping him, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he can't play with Jokic. Good players can almost always play with good players..

You are SOOO wrong again !! Nurkic dropped 35lbs this off-season, going from 280lbs to 245lbs working with our trainer. The reason has nothing to do with him not being able to play with Jokic or not being a good player, it's because Nurkic is playing BEHIND Jokic and he wants more minutes, believes he should be a starter. He's a very good player with room to get better, he easily has double-double potential as he demonstrated early in the season when he was starting. He does need to work on h is game a bit, has a tendency to rush things which has led to some turnovers.

17-24.

19th place.

[Homerclease]

If you thought Sullinger was fat and out of shape, wait till you see Nurkic. There's a reason why the Nuggets are dumping him, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he can't play with Jokic. Good players can almost always play with good players..

You are SOOO wrong again !! Nurkic dropped 35lbs this off-season, going from 280lbs to 245lbs working with our trainer. The reason has nothing to do with him not being able to play with Jokic or not being a good player, it's because Nurkic is playing BEHIND Jokic and he wants more minutes, believes he should be a starter. He's a very good player with room to get better, he easily has double-double potential as he demonstrated early in the season when he was starting. He does need to work on h is game a bit, has a tendency to rush things which has led to some turnovers.

17-24.

19th place.

But not mediocre at all. We have the most forgiving mods on the entire site, they are better men than me. Trollwalker should've been gone a long time ago

[Andrew McCeltic]

You also really need to go back and compare the two if you believe Mario makes Bradley at 21 look like a d leaguer. Not only was Avery a much better defender but he was a more effiecent shooter. I honestly don't know how you came up with this.

Yeah it is crazy talk. Bradley wasn't just a rotation player for us, he was enormous for our team that 2nd year in the league. He was a huge reason the Celtics turned that season around after the all star break. He was making people cry on the defensive end. He took over as a starter and Ray Allen didn't get his job back.

Once he took over as a starter, he put in 12 points a game on 50/47/80 shooting while playing probably the best defense of his career.

Incredibly defined role on a good team, and Doc was patient bringing him along on offense, when he was missing shots, telling him eventually he'd start making them like he did in practice. His defense got him on the court, and that's where he was ahead of Hezonja. That hot streak of shooting didn't last, and he didn't really get back to a level of consistent offensive excellence until this year. Always been streaky.

Put Hezonja on that Celtics team, young Bradley on this year's Magic, you could get very different outcomes. I'm talking about raw ability, not situational performance.

[Andrew McCeltic]

He can't get minutes over another scrub like Meeks. Even when Elfrid Payton was playing like crap he could still get minutes in the low 20s, Mario? Could only sniff the floor in garbage time.

Meeks is two years removed from good D and a great 3-point shooting season for the Lakers. Jaylen Brown hasn't been able to beat out Jonas Jerebko for minutes. You have to have a read on where a player is developmentally, and which of the difficulties he's having are likely to be ironed out by experience.

I'm not going to label Mario a bust yet, he's still young. Trading Bradley for him is absolutely horrible though, even if you're not a Bradley fan if Ainge were to move Bradley to the Magic he should be able to get much more of a return. Meeks is a scrub, let's be honest. Orlando is in a much different situation currently and Brown is a rookie. Mario has also played a bit of professional ball befor coming over here for a pretty good program. If Brown is still being block for minutes like Mario is next season then Ainge has missed on the pick. You also really need to go back and compare the two if you believe Mario makes Bradley at 21 look like a d leaguer. Not only was Avery a much better defender but he was a more effiecent shooter. I honestly don't know how you came up with this.

I'm talking either something like Bradley/Zeller for Vucevic/Hezonja, followed by a Crowder deal, if we want max cap space, or Bradley for Hezonja/ORL 17, or even Hezonja/Gordon.

But I'm going to bet Ainge agrees with me about Hezonja, at least - he's a blue chip prospect, and he's not Mclemore or Waiters - he's too aggressive, if anything, not too meek, and his defense is a work in progress, but he's not a boneheaded decision-maker.

I'm imagining January of 2019, when Hezonja and Brown are starring and Bradley is making 20 million a year.

[Curmudgeon]

Jurkic hasn't weighed 245 since he was 12 years old. What was Sullinger listed at, 260? LOL.

[skywalker33]

That's what you think !!

I don't think he's available for pennies skywalker, but they're pretty clearly trying to get rid of him. I think the price is a high 2nd/late 1st right now

And it our situation that equals pennies. But please sky walker, tell us how Gallo is worth 2 Brooklyn picks again.

Hey Homer, show me ONE post that I made saying Gallo is worth those 2 Brooklyn picks, put up or shut up !

[skywalker33]

Nurkic hasn't weighed 245 since he was 12 years old. What was Sullinger listed at, 260? LOL.

How do you know this, has he been sitting on your face ? At least I can support what I say, can you ?

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/29/slimmed-down-jusuf-nurkic-seeing-quick-results-of-offseason-work/

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/nuggets-jusuf-nurkic-drops-weight-during-offseason/

http://www.nba.com/article/2016/10/17/musclewatch-2016-final-countdown

[Andrew McCeltic]

Centers available:

Dwight, maybe Cousins, Zizic (holding pattern), Nurkic, Noel, Okafor, Bogut, maybe Whiteside, Vucevic, maybe Len, Chandler.

Hell of a decision.

[Homerclease]

I don't think he's available for pennies skywalker, but they're pretty clearly trying to get rid of him. I think the price is a high 2nd/late 1st right now

And it our situation that equals pennies. But please sky walker, tell us how Gallo is worth 2 Brooklyn picks again.

Hey Homer, show me ONE post that I made saying Gallo is worth those 2 Brooklyn picks, put up or shut up !

All last season you were saying this right up until Gallo got hurt again

[CelticFaninLBC]

If Phil's looking to tank and cut salary...

Boston gets - Melo & Noel
NYK gets - Philly 2017 pick (top 3 protected), BOS 2018 pick, MEM pick, Rozier, Amir & Zeller
Philly gets - Crowder & Courtney Lee

[Parliament10]

Trading for Melo is like going all-in without going in at all.

Trading for Nutkic is like robbing Peter, Fred, Larry and Jose to pay Paul.

They could get Nurkic for pennies at this point, don't see how it's robbing anyone to pay Paul for that price.

Jusuf Nurkic, seems to be the best idea.
He's still on his Rookie, and can be Extended after this year.

2017 Minnesota pick, is about the highest we can go this year. That and maybe an additional late 2nd.
James Young can go too, as an Expiring.