Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 4

Post #1041 » by **lilfishi22** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:52 am

REDDzone wrote:Why is it that Bisping can't fight until May at the earliest (would be 7+ months off) and he remains champion but Conor won his belt two months ago and they are doing an interim title?

Best guess is Bisping has shown he has all intentions to defend his belt. Conor knows and the brass knows that 145 belt is there for the champ-champ name only and he has no intentions of defending it.

Jasen777 · Post #1042 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:05 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
REDDzone wrote:Why is it that Bisping can't fight until May at the earliest (would be 7+ months off) and he remains champion but Conor won his belt two months ago and they are doing an interim title?

Best guess is Bisping has shown he has all intentions to defend his belt. Conor knows and the brass knows that 145 belt is there for the champ-champ name only and he has no intentions of defending it.

Redd was probably asking about the 155 interim fight, which is too soon unless Conor has told them he's not coming back for a while or isn't making a 155 defense his next fight. (I was all for stripping Connor of the 145 belt when he insisted on the Diaz rematch, no interim necessary).

REDDzone · Post #1043 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:14 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
REDDzone wrote:Why is it that Bisping can't fight until May at the earliest (would be 7+ months off) and he remains champion but Conor won his belt two months ago and they are doing an interim title?

Best guess is Bisping has shown he has all intentions to defend his belt. Conor knows and the brass knows that 145 belt is there for the champ-champ name only and he has no intentions of defending it.

I'm talking the 155 title.

Post #1044 » by **lilfishi22** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:53 pm

REDDzone wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
REDDzone wrote:Why is it that Bisping can't fight until May at the earliest (would be 7+ months off) and he remains champion but Conor won his belt two months ago and they are doing an interim title?

Best guess is Bisping has shown he has all intentions to defend his belt. Conor knows and the brass knows that 145 belt is there for the champ-champ name only and he has no intentions of defending it.

I'm talking the 155 title.

Apologies, thought you meant the 145 which was stripped and an interim champ made sense.

The 155 interim belt makes less sense. That said, with Conor supposedly out until late 2017, it's potentially a yr before he comes back. I can also see why they created an interim belt rather than just marketing a No.1 contender's bout.

REDDzone · Post #1045 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:57 am

I hadn't heard he was out that long. I thought it was like may or June.

Post #1046 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:06 am

REDDzone wrote:I hadn't heard he was out that long. I thought it was like may or June.

I thought it was like Aug-Oct. But this was not long after his last fight so things may have changed since.

Susan · Post #1047 » by **Susan** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:44 pm

Anybody listen to Goldie on MMAHour?

Post #1048 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:55 pm

Susan wrote:Anybody listen to Goldie on MMAHour?

Nope. Anything juicy?

Susan · Post #1049 » by **Susan** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:08 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Susan wrote:Anybody listen to Goldie on MMAHour?

Nope. Anything juicy?

Dana didn't even talk to him.

Talked about how watching everybody in the company get fired was. Expressed great gratitude for the outpour of support from fans.

They did the man dirty. 20 years and not even a minute send-off.

Post #1050 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:24 am

I started listening and I'm about halfway through. The guy has been super classy throughout this whole situation. The fact that he put himself in the same group as everyone else that was fired as part of the WME takeover shows his humility.

No proper send off and nothing from Dana "He was never my friend" White is just dirty

REDDzone · Post #1051 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:56 am

"Me and Goldy were never friends".

Post #1052 » by **Shaazzam** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:55 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:I started listening and I'm about halfway through. The guy has been super classy throughout this whole situation. The fact that he put himself in the same group as everyone else that was fired as part of the WME takeover shows his humility.

No proper send off and nothing from Dana "He was never my friend" White is just dirty

"The firings were... Virtually Identical."

Jasen777 · Post #1053 » by **Jasen777** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:10 pm

Chael Sonnen fired on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ for cheating

RalphWiggum · Post #1054 » by **RalphWiggum** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:22 pm

Susan wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Susan wrote:Anybody listen to Goldie on MMAHour?

Nope. Anything juicy?

Dana didn't even talk to him.

Talked about how watching everybody in the company get fired was. Expressed great gratitude for the outpour of support from fans.

They did the man dirty. 20 years and not even a minute send-off.

The UFC does almost everyone dirty all the time with a few exceptions. They don't put their athletes in the best situation to succeed. They treat the media like they're the enemy. They fire Goldy and don't even acknowledge it after 20 years with the company. They treat us like idiots by putting out 2-3 PPVs a year that have no business being PPV. They allow Rousey to ignore all promotional responsibilities and don't even pump up Nunes.

This company is eventually going to implode if they don't start running it like a real professional sport instead of professional wrestling.

Bernman · Post #1055 » by **Bernman** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:57 pm

It shouldn't be a surprise that Dana is actual friends with very few of his employees. He acts like a mob kingpin. Not many mafiosos are really friends, just guys with mutual interests and know where the bodies are buried. Chael and Dana getting along is fitting because they have very few scruples. But I don't think UFC implodes with the alternatives doing it simultaneously. There is a demand for the sport now, all the celebrities investing only legitimized and mainstreamed it further, and where would all the fighters go? They can get sued, unionized, and lose money temporarily from those things; but they're still going to have enough money to invest and turn a healthy profit to recoup some of that money. Maybe well into the future when an alternative pops up that's not actually incompetent they could implode. I think the union could help them appease their employees more within reason so they steady the ship.

Cowboy and Felder were on It's Always Sunny this week, pretending to be preparing for a fight, and using "FightMilk" to cut weight for it. They loved it because it made them expel through all their orifices, which they were kind enough to show the audience. It was a crow's eggs and feces. They were in a few scenes throughout. Pretty good guest-starring role for athletes. Of course Felder is a trained actor and he was smoother, but Cerrone was surprisingly decent as well.

Watch on YouTube

cowboyronnie · Post #1056 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:44 am

I have never liked Bas Rutten. He's charmless, he clearly has no social sense and is improvizing human reactions, and his ideas are ridiculous.

Steelo Green · Post #1057 » by **Steelo Green** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:14 pm

The UFC has started to protect fighters. Well not started, it's a trend now for a while. Connor has been constantly protected. He's a great fighter, no doubt, but there are people who he doesn't want to fight and won't fight. Aldo I'll give him credit for taking, but now that he's the cash cow, he has refused the Khabib fight, he doesn't want to fight Aldo again because he knows he caught him with a punch that Aldo will never allow again, heck he even avoids Frankie.

Not that I think he would lose any of those fights necessarily, but he does know that some are bigger threats than others.

Can't wait for the day Khabib and Connor go at it. Win or lose, will be an incredible fight. That left versus just a monster.

High 5 · Post #1058 » by **High 5** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:02 am

I've been critical of Conor and the UFC, but I don't think they've protected him at all. RDA was viewed as a killer when he got that fight and Diaz at 170 was super risky. Alvarez was likely an easier fight than Khabib, but he obviously went for the belt.

Jasen777 · Post #1059 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:19 am

He was protected during his rise, he got to avoid wrestlers until he got Mendes off a hunting show. After that it's been him calling the shots, not the UFC, and I don't think his picks can be seen as self-protecting.

cowboyronnie · Post #1060 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:23 am

High 5 wrote:I've been critical of Conor and the UFC, but I don't think they've protected him at all. RDA was viewed as a killer when he got that fight and Diaz at 170 was super risky. Alvarez was likely an easier fight than Khabib, but he obviously went for the belt.

Exactly. Who chooses RDA as a safety-first opponent? Moving up to do so? There was no necessity that his move to 155 go straight for the belt. He could have taken a better fit. RDA has the personality of driftwood and is one of the least visible champs ever, Conor chose him.