Game 45: Pistons (20-24) vs. Wizards (23-19) - 6 PM EST

[BadMofoPimp]

There is no such thing as push the pace in a SVG offense. He preaches half court offense.

Ish was doing a pretty darn good job it his last few games as a starter. We aren't playing 7 seconds or less, if there is nothing there we pull it or and reset, but suggesting that SVG won't let us run is not correct.

And so have Brandon Jennings as well as DJ Augustin. They both knew when to push or slow it down to a T.

SVG preaches whatever offense the PGs want to run, too bad RJ wants to slow it to a crawl and do his high PnR ISOs all night.

I have a feeling that is how SVG prefers to play. Magic with Jameer always played it slow to a crawl.

[hoophabit]

There is no such thing as push the pace in a SVG offense. He preaches half court offense.

Ish was doing a pretty darn good job it his last few games as a starter. We aren't playing 7 seconds or less, if there is nothing there we pull it or and reset, but suggesting that SVG won't let us run is not correct.

I thought it odd as well, as we've heard him screaming "RUN" from the sidelines on many occasions. It doesn't really seem as though he has any problem with going for fast break points.

[whitehops]

a big advantage with pushing the pace is it can catch the defense off guard which can lead to the offense having mismatches to start the possession. that can make things a lot easier. what ish does at times is crazy because the defense is getting back decently well, he's just going at 100 mph so he can get to the rim before their big men can, even though they have a huge head start.

in playoff time teams make a real concerted effort to get back though, which is why you need to be able to execute well in the half court.

[In SVG We Trust]

Zaza Pachulia is a bad defensive Center. And, just saying some players are individually good defensive centers doesn't make a team good defensively. It is all about TEAM defense. No matter how good an individual is on defense, the team won't be good on defense unless they all buy into the coaches scheme even with bad defensive players on that team.

Are you serious putting the f* Warriors as example?

[BadMofoPimp]

Zaza Pachulia is a bad defensive Center. And, just saying some players are individually good defensive centers doesn't make a team good defensively. It is all about TEAM defense. No matter how good an individual is on defense, the team won't be good on defense unless they all buy into the coaches scheme even with bad defensive players on that team.

Are you serious putting the f* Warriors as example?

Well, if anyone uses a "blanketed" statement that no team is successful without a dominate defensive center, then you are seriously wrong. And, many of these so called defensive centers really are not great, but play with solid players around them in a team defensive concept. Put those centers on bad teams with poor team defense and those centers would be average at best.

[In SVG We Trust]

Zaza Pachulia is a bad defensive Center. And, just saying some players are individually good defensive centers doesn't make a team good defensively. It is all about TEAM defense. No matter how good an individual is on defense, the team won't be good on defense unless they all buy into the coaches scheme even with bad defensive players on that team.

Are you serious putting the f* Warriors as example?

Well, if anyone uses a "blanketed" statement that no team is successful without a dominate defensive center, then you are seriously wrong. And, many of these so called defensive centers really are not great, but play with solid players around them in a team defensive concept. Put those centers on bad teams with poor team defense and those centers would be average at best.

Pachulia plays 18mpg, and they got the most versatile defender who plays as C called Draymond Green and Kevin Durant who is a 7'0 with extremely long arms having his best season as shot blocker.

[DetroitSho]

Only read the first couple sentences as I'm honestly too lazy to engage in your entire post, but I want to clarify things. I KNOW you're not Todd himself. You're your own person. What I'm saying is you're doing the exact same thing as Todd, your whole theme these days in almost all of your posts is to harp on Dre as he did KCP. Seriously, we get it.

It was pretty evident I was saying I'm not Toddy as that type of poster. If you weren't too lazy maybe you could have read at least the first paragraph and you would understand my post.

So don't you think he's killing us with his low IQ and poor defense? I think the main reason we won last night was because our bench big men did a great job on the court. And don't you think this team would be much better with a 3&D PG who can make the extra pass and who could make flourish our versatile offense while not letting the opponent PG drive to the rim every possession?

I lol'd at the bold!

Great cheating argument not bolding the previous 3 letters!

Again your poor comprehension don't let you to understand that you can't have a dynamic offense or the extra pass with Rubio because he NEEDS the ball on his hand every possession if you don't want him hurting our offense and playing 4 vs 5, and he has played with so much better shooters than we have had here in a while these years.

If you get the ball out of his hands, his defender is an automatic help defense for every other player. Add this to Dre who can't make a shot outside the paint, and that's it, we're going to be an unwatchable team (even more than with a Reggie ISO every possession).

Actually no, nothing you've posted recently is worth taking much time out to read. It's the same theme every post so I didn't bother to continue. I just wanted to clarify myself regardless of if you got what I was saying so NOBODY who saw it thought I was being literal. I just happened to quote your post to clarify.

[In SVG We Trust]

Big difference is I don't hate Drummond. If Dre puts a monster performance this night again the Kings, I'm going to be supporting him. If he suddenly start to play good defense, I would be very proud to have him on my team and I'm not going to post ridiculous hate arguments saying he isn't physically gifted or he isn't an elite rebounder, or he's lazy working out the gym, because he has improved so many areas of his game.

What I truly believe is he can't be that player this team and SVG needs, because he has no idea and not enough BBIQ to be a defensive anchor reading the opponent offense.

In my opinion, the best Drummond we have seen was the one who plays for Cheeks. It's pretty obvious he was worse than present Dre, but in terms of what he was bringing and his impact on the court, he was so much efficient than now.

And that was because our coach was so bad and we run a chaotic and anarchist offense. But that Dre didn't need to think on the court, he was just running, banging, jumping, blocking and rebounding, putting his energy on the court without that need to be a smart player.

I mean, Dre playing that type of game in a team like Rockets would be an absolute beast. It's just he's so far from what this team needs, because we're not talented enough or have elite shooters to run that type of offense. Just it.

[Pharaoh]

If you get the ball out of Rubio's hands...

With him here we'd play a different style dude! Push the pace, run the floor, get buckets before their D is completely set, drive and kick...

And you could institute more of a motion offense where Rubio, KCP, Harris & Jon Boy are moving around Dre regardless of who has the ball...

It's pretty obvious you got no idea what are you talking about.

Two still shots don't show a damn thing dude!


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[Pharaoh]

There is no such thing as push the pace in a SVG offense. He preaches half court offense.

I think he could implement that to our offense. Sad thing is some guys talked about Rubio like he was Wall.

bull! Ain't a single poster on this board who compared Rubio to Wall or even argued the issues with Rubio's skillset!

You can run the court even with a bad shooter PG, but the main problem is Rubio driving to the rim is even worse than shooting the ball, so that doesn't allow us to make backdoor cuts or that motion offense thos guy was talking about.

Again - bull!

You can run motion without having a long range shooter at PG.

You can create space without having a long range shooter at PG.

Seems you haven't watched enough basketball in your lifetime to know that there are plenty of ways to utilize Rubio's strengths while hiding his weaknesses

I think it's an evidence he has never seen play Rubio aside when we play against the Wolves.

Got news for you brother - seen a thousand Rubio's in my lifetime!

Getting to the point I'm not even gonna reply to you mate. We obviously view the sport through different eyes



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[In SVG We Trust]

C'mon dude, it's obvious you have no idea what you talking about, you only talk about Rubio with a general perception obviously not based on watching him on games. Do it yourself a favor and stop making yourself looks this ignorant.

If you want, I can put here about 100 games when he's constantly ignored on offense and his team is struggling because he can't be productive without ball. Because, again, and it's clear you don't know because you haven't seen him play more than 10 games, he's even worse finishing at the rim, so him cutting to the basket isn't a threat either.

[DetroitSho]

Big difference is I don't hate Drummond. If Dre puts a monster performance this night again the Kings, I'm going to be supporting him. If he suddenly start to play good defense, I would be very proud to have him on my team and I'm not going to post ridiculous hate arguments saying he isn't physically gifted or he isn't an elite rebounder, or he's lazy working out the gym, because he has improved so many areas of his game.

What I truly believe is he can't be that player this team and SVG needs, because he has no idea and not enough BBIQ to be a defensive anchor reading the opponent offense.

In my opinion, the best Drummond we have seen was the one who plays for Cheeks. It's pretty obvious he was worse than present Dre, but in terms of what he was bringing and his impact on the court, he was so much efficient than now.

And that was because our coach was so bad and we run a chaotic and anarchist offense. But that Dre didn't need to think on the court, he was just running, banging, jumping, blocking and rebounding, putting his energy on the court without that need to be a smart player.

I mean, Dre playing that type of game in a team like Rockets would be an absolute beast. It's just he's so far from what this team needs, because we're not talented enough or have elite shooters to run that type of offense. Just it.

Oh, you mean the Dre with the ridiculous foul rate that would damn near foul out in 20 minutes of play? I'm pretty sure that's what you saw the other night and is complaining about right now.

[Pharaoh]

C'mon dude, it's obvious you have no idea what you talking about, you only talk about Rubio with a general perception obviously not based on watching him on games. Do it yourself a favor and stop making yourself looks this ignorant.

If you want, I can put here about 100 games when he's constantly ignored on offense and his team is struggling because he can't be productive without ball. Because, again, and it's clear you don't know because you haven't seen him play more than 10 games, he's even worse finishing at the rim, so him cutting to the basket isn't a threat either.

And I can show you 100 games where he conducts the offense like an orchestra and plays great D at the point of the attack.

All we'd be doing is highlighting his strengths and weaknesses - which are not in dispute.

What is in dispute is how those strengths or weaknesses can help or hinder the Pistons moving forward.

Rubio makes guys better. To me that's more important than if he can score 20

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[In SVG We Trust]

You don't get tired of expose yourself guy. I would say you again: he's playing with a team with more spacing than our team, and has played with Kevin Martin and Love on his team. If he makes his teammates better, even scoring 5 per night, the Wolves would be a Playoffs team, because they have so much better players to run the court than us with LaVine, KAT and Wiggins, all superior players than ours at those positions if we're talking about shoot or finish to the rim.

Please guy, take this L and learn more about bb.

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[pistontr]

pay everyone. don't be pessimist. we are just young.

[Pharaoh]

You don't get tired of expose yourself guy. I would say you again: he's playing with a team with more spacing than our team, and has played with Kevin Martin and Love on his team. If he makes his teammates better, even scoring 5 per night, the Wolves would be a Playoffs team, because they have so much better players to run the court than us with LaVine, KAT and Wiggins, all superior players than ours at those positions if we're talking about shoot or finish to the rim.

Please guy, take this L and learn more about bb.

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LMAO! Go search Rubio highlight reel dude instead of posting his weaknesses! We've both acknowledged his strengths and weaknesses

And if you think Rubio is the reason the Wolves aren't playoff bound I suggest you take your own advice, take the L and learn more about bb

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[In SVG We Trust]

Go search Josh Smith highlights guy