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Re: Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice! 

Post#1661 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:43 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:The conversation ends with Melo unwilling to waive his clause to go to Boston. His wife and her career would be hurt by the move. Better chance of going to Brooklyn or LA to be honest.

Didn't he have Boston list of 3 teams? If her career so important, stay in ny. Or, she can take a town car when she needs it and can keep an apartment there.

This is a dumb reason.


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Its the reason most cited for him not going to the Bulls. Take it for what its worth.

Boston wasn't on that list. Steven A was mistaken. It was Cavs Clippers and Lakers.
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Re: Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice! 

Post#1662 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:45 pm

Darthlukey wrote:This is contrary to the building an instant contender idea, but if we can't get a superstar prior to the deadline do you guys think it would be a beneficial move to trade the BKN 17 pick for PHI 17 and the rights to the LAL pick (either this year or next). It likely doesn't give us access to a top 3 pick this year (which is point guard heavy at the top but a position of strength for us at the moment) but we can draft some size this year and worst case scenario have access to 2 lottery picks next year to continue adding good young bigs



No chance in hell. The Lakers pick is likely gunna roll to next year and Philly is gunna end up late lotto. No way am I trading far and away the best pre-lottery shot at Fultz for that.
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Post#1663 » by cl2117 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:50 pm

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That team's a mess anyways. I mean Dj Augustin is their starting PG. That being said, one of the reason why I don't like trading for players that have 1 season or half a season left. They can walk and you can't do anything.

I'm not a fan of Ibaka, he peaked 3 years ago and his stats are showing that. We've talked about here, there's a likelihood that he's 31-32 years old, maybe even more. The guy has aged a lot the past 3-4 years and literally looks old. From his game(athletic ability, movement) to his actual face.

Lol, this talk about Ibaka's age is turning ridiculous. Let's be serious, ok? Thanks

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I'm actually 100% serious. U're european, you should know about that a lot more. If not go watch documentaries about Africa and how you can basically buy birth certificate that says ure 19 when you're in fact 30. I forgot which african country it was, but it won the world football championship U18, it turned out that more than half of their team was 21+.

I'm dead serious.

Yeah the age thing is no joke. It could be a real in this scenario, you see it often with baseball players and occasionally at the highschool level in basketball.

I get why some people get sensitive about it though, but really the only takeaway from it needs to be that you can't purely attribute Ibaka's downturn to circumstance (down year/bad system/circumstantial factors), which is often what you do with a 27 year old still in his prime. And you need to consider the fact that maybe it is him wearing down and coming towards the twilight of his prime rather than the mid-point.
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Post#1664 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:13 pm

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Bohemian wrote:Lol, this talk about Ibaka's age is turning ridiculous. Let's be serious, ok? Thanks

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I'm actually 100% serious. U're european, you should know about that a lot more. If not go watch documentaries about Africa and how you can basically buy birth certificate that says ure 19 when you're in fact 30. I forgot which african country it was, but it won the world football championship U18, it turned out that more than half of their team was 21+.

I'm dead serious.


It's not really an "Ibaka is from Africa" thing, it's a players will always lie if it benefits them thing. Ersan Ilyasova (Turkey), Thon Maker (Australia) and Shabazz Muhammad (USA) are all recent examples of guys lying about their age. It's gunna happen, and will continue in the future
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Post#1665 » by jirrit » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:54 pm

Bohemian wrote:Lol, this talk about Ibaka's age is turning ridiculous. Let's be serious, ok? Thanks

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Post#1666 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:00 pm

I'll state it again that I will be shocked if Ainge does anything major at the trade deadline that will alter the Celtics summer free agent plans. I don't see Ainge taking on salary for next year unless it's for a star. Just very minor moves.
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Post#1667 » by Banks2Pierce » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:09 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I'll state it again that I will be shocked if Ainge does anything major at the trade deadline that will alter the Celtics summer free agent plans. I don't see Ainge taking on salary for next year unless it's for a star. Just very minor moves.


The only real change between the Hunter waiving and now(obvious indicator of keeping the room open) is Griffin getting injured again so I doubt the outlook would be in any way changed. Wonder who the real target is or if they have a more vague wish list of 3-5 players. I am curious to see if Bulpett and others will be clued up on that as that will greatly affect our deadline.
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Post#1668 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:41 pm

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Bohemian wrote:Lol, this talk about Ibaka's age is turning ridiculous. Let's be serious, ok? Thanks

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I'm actually 100% serious. U're european, you should know about that a lot more. If not go watch documentaries about Africa and how you can basically buy birth certificate that says ure 19 when you're in fact 30. I forgot which african country it was, but it won the world football championship U18, it turned out that more than half of their team was 21+.

I'm dead serious.


It's not really an "Ibaka is from Africa" thing, it's a players will always lie if it benefits them thing. Ersan Ilyasova (Turkey), Thon Maker (Australia) and Shabazz Muhammad (USA) are all recent examples of guys lying about their age. It's gunna happen, and will continue in the future


In Africa u can buy birth cerfiticate. Maker was born in Africa so were Ibaka and Biyombo. If I have birth certificate form 1 of those countries, I can get a certificate that I'm 24 and it will be legit- u just bribe people, that's how it works.
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Post#1669 » by radcot » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:53 pm

Less than a month until the trade deadline. Shouldn't there be more trade rumors by now? I haven't heard any involving the Celtics that had even a smidgen of credibility. Has anyone else?
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Post#1670 » by radcot » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:54 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I'll state it again that I will be shocked if Ainge does anything major at the trade deadline that will alter the Celtics summer free agent plans. I don't see Ainge taking on salary for next year unless it's for a star. Just very minor moves.


Could very well be the answer to my question above.
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Post#1671 » by sully00 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:05 pm

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This dude saying Ibaka's likely to walk in FA if he's not traded by deadline. LOL Magic dealt Oladipo, Sabonis, and Ilyasova for potentially nothing.


That team's a mess anyways. I mean Dj Augustin is their starting PG. That being said, one of the reason why I don't like trading for players that have 1 season or half a season left. They can walk and you can't do anything.

I'm not a fan of Ibaka, he peaked 3 years ago and his stats are showing that. We've talked about here, there's a likelihood that he's 31-32 years old, maybe even more. The guy has aged a lot the past 3-4 years and literally looks old. From his game(athletic ability, movement) to his actual face.


Not seeing that at all. I was suspect of Ibaka but he has a good year. He is stretch 4 now and a good one that has impacted his offensive rebounding, as it has with lots of PF's. The only concern I see with him is the lack of shot blocking and again that could be the evolution of the game where he ends defending in space more and less in a position to block shots.
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Post#1672 » by sully00 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:05 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I'll state it again that I will be shocked if Ainge does anything major at the trade deadline that will alter the Celtics summer free agent plans. I don't see Ainge taking on salary for next year unless it's for a star. Just very minor moves.


Who are they going to get in FA?
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Post#1673 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:16 pm

radcot wrote:Less than a month until the trade deadline. Shouldn't there be more trade rumors by now? I haven't heard any involving the Celtics that had even a smidgen of credibility. Has anyone else?

Nothing from this guy yet. Cool bio though.
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Post#1674 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:54 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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Bohemian wrote:Lol, this talk about Ibaka's age is turning ridiculous. Let's be serious, ok? Thanks

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I'm actually 100% serious. U're european, you should know about that a lot more. If not go watch documentaries about Africa and how you can basically buy birth certificate that says ure 19 when you're in fact 30. I forgot which african country it was, but it won the world football championship U18, it turned out that more than half of their team was 21+.

I'm dead serious.


It's not really an "Ibaka is from Africa" thing, it's a players will always lie if it benefits them thing. Ersan Ilyasova (Turkey), Thon Maker (Australia) and Shabazz Muhammad (USA) are all recent examples of guys lying about their age. It's gunna happen, and will continue in the future


OJ Mayo is another guy that comes to mind. He's apparently a year older than he really is. When you're a 15 year old playing well against kids your age, you'll get some scouts' attention. Dominate kids a year "older" than you, and you get every scouts' attention.
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Post#1675 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:39 pm

sully00 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:I'll state it again that I will be shocked if Ainge does anything major at the trade deadline that will alter the Celtics summer free agent plans. I don't see Ainge taking on salary for next year unless it's for a star. Just very minor moves.


Who are they going to get in FA?

Who knows? I'm sure Ainge has his target
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Post#1676 » by Bohemian » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:49 pm

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Bohemian wrote:Lol, this talk about Ibaka's age is turning ridiculous. Let's be serious, ok? Thanks

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hahaha

Well, we both have the Spanish nationality. That´s about it :P But I honestly think Ibaka´s decreasing production is due to a bad fit in Orlando, combined with a lack of appetite for playing in the paint in the last times in OKC...plus the effects of past knee injuries. Not to any African certificate conspiracy. It seems I´m in the minority here, but I honestly don´t care much hahaa ;)
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Post#1677 » by KGboss » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:59 pm

Ibaka is better than Amir

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Post#1678 » by ddb » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:38 pm

Ibaka would be interesting in Green. But the price tag would have to be favorable to the Celtics. Something like Zeller/Rozier/Young and a NON BK pick. I also wouldn't mind grabing Jodie Meeks from Orlando as well. He's another expiring deal, but would give us a veteran sharpshooter to bring off the bench.
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Post#1679 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:45 pm

Anthony Davis will be a Celtic before the 2017-18 season begins. I have inside knowledge (inside my head.)
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Post#1680 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:46 pm

KGboss wrote:Ibaka is better than Amir

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That's like comparing which cancer is more favorable to be diagnosed with. Both are pretty much washed up.

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