2nd best player in the nba

[phanman]

Curry is still the best player on this team, Durant or no Durant. Curry +15.3/Durant +8.8. When Durant is on the bench the Warriors are a +6.4. While Curry is on the bench the Warriors are a +1.8.

Aside from LeBron, Curry is the single more impactful player in the NBA.

That on/off stats in a way just favor Curry as he has been with the Warriors his entire career vs this being Durant's first year. Curry's on/off stats are also bolstered by the fact that his primary backups in Livingston and Clark are a -9.6 and -10.4 respectively.

There are stats that paint Durant in a better picture vs Curry too:

Averaging (26.1)1.5 more points per game with (17).5 less shots.
Co-leads team in rebounds
Leads team in BPM @ 8.5
Leads team in VORP @ 4
Leads team in ws/48 @ .289
Leads team in TS% @ 65.6
USG% is below Curry's @ 27.5
3rd on team in Ftr (behind Varejao and Zaza)

[Patches Perry]

Curry is one of the worst MVP's of all-time. No MVP should have more turnovers than assists in the finals, ever. Durant has always been the better player and he is a far more proven one. Now that they're both on the same team, its never been more clearer than ever.

By what standard is he more proven? Curry accomplished more in his last two playoff runs than Durant ever has. Durant's last two playoff runs have been putrid (22.6 PER in 2014 and 20.2 PER in 2016, hurt in 2015).

Oh wow like Curry's was so much better (22.3 2016). 23 year old Durant's finals performance against the elite Heat team with prime Wade, Lebron, and Bosh alone should end this conversation. Tell me when Curry averages 30/2/6 on 55% FG and 40% 3P with a 65% TS.

So because of 5 games Durant played 5 years ago, in a losing effort mind you, he is better than Curry? Both Durant and Curry have under-performed in the playoffs the past two years, but Durant has been worse. And it's kind of a trump card when the last 3 games they played against each other, Curry outplayed Durant pretty clearly, and his team won all 3 games, while Durant's team lost a 3-1 lead. Durant joined Curry, not vice versa. Curry didn't need Durant, Durant needed Curry.

[stayeduptolate]

Ill take Curry just because of his gravity!

[baller16]

By what standard is he more proven? Curry accomplished more in his last two playoff runs than Durant ever has. Durant's last two playoff runs have been putrid (22.6 PER in 2014 and 20.2 PER in 2016, hurt in 2015).

Oh wow like Curry's was so much better (22.3 2016). 23 year old Durant's finals performance against the elite Heat team with prime Wade, Lebron, and Bosh alone should end this conversation. Tell me when Curry averages 30/2/6 on 55% FG and 40% 3P with a 65% TS.

So because of 5 games Durant played 5 years ago, in a losing effort mind you, he is better than Curry? Both Durant and Curry have under-performed in the playoffs the past two years, but Durant has been worse. And it's kind of a trump card when the last 3 games they played against each other, Curry outplayed Durant pretty clearly, and his team won all 3 games, while Durant's team lost a 3-1 lead. Durant joined Curry, not vice versa. Curry didn't need Durant, Durant needed Curry.

Did you happen to forget the first ever unanimous MVP's finals performance? 2 good season doesn't trump Durant's 8. Say what you what but Durant is putting up much better numbers and its not even close, compared to Curry's. Hard to make a case for Curry being the better player at the moment. Durant is the better player right now, end of discussion.

[Dan Z]

Kevin durant. One great season from harden & westbrook doesn't validate them being better than KD. Last year we we're hyping curry the same way we're doing this with Harden & Westbrook.. I want to see multiple seasons/postseasons of this high level basketball play before making that statement.

I think this poll is 2nd best player in the NBA this year, not career.

If it's career you might have Wade or Paul Pierce on the list, but they're not for good reason.

[The_Hater]

Lebron should also be on that list. He's not clearly the best player in the league anymore. During the regular season last year people were saying that Curry is better than him. I don't think Curry is, but you can make a case for Durant over him.

Regular season Bron isn't the best player on the league anymore, no. But the focused playoff version we saw each of the past two years proved that he's starting coasting through the regular season and has another, higher level when needed. He's the best player in the world, still.

[kukenotas]

Arguing lebron being at the top, but leting it go i would say westbrook and harden. While westbrook being really underated with showing best nubers in all nba history. Of team makes playoffs he is no 1 and mvp which most likely will be given to harden

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[bondom34]

I also think Durant is the best player on GSW, but Curry is more important to them if that makes sense. Still behind Russ/Harden.

[Patches Perry]

Oh wow like Curry's was so much better (22.3 2016). 23 year old Durant's finals performance against the elite Heat team with prime Wade, Lebron, and Bosh alone should end this conversation. Tell me when Curry averages 30/2/6 on 55% FG and 40% 3P with a 65% TS.

So because of 5 games Durant played 5 years ago, in a losing effort mind you, he is better than Curry? Both Durant and Curry have under-performed in the playoffs the past two years, but Durant has been worse. And it's kind of a trump card when the last 3 games they played against each other, Curry outplayed Durant pretty clearly, and his team won all 3 games, while Durant's team lost a 3-1 lead. Durant joined Curry, not vice versa. Curry didn't need Durant, Durant needed Curry.

Did you happen to forget the first ever unanimous MVP's finals performance? 2 good season doesn't trump Durant's 8. Say what you what but Durant is putting up much better numbers and its not even close, compared to Curry's. Hard to make a case for Curry being the better player at the moment. Durant is the better player right now, end of discussion.

2 good seasons absolutely trumps 8 when it's the last two, and we're talking about right now. I mean, you wouldn't say Carmelo is better than Leonard because Kawhi has only been better 2 seasons.

We know what Kawhi is now because of his past couple, and we know what Curry is because of his last couple. Durant isn't at that level (Curry's last two). Maybe KD will elevate to that level, but he hasn't yet.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Lowry is certainly a nice player but why would anyone think he is the second best player in the NBA?

[jc23]

lol on the lowry and pg options.

[Steelo Green]

Kevin durant. One great season from harden & westbrook doesn't validate them being better than KD. Last year we we're hyping curry the same way we're doing this with Harden & Westbrook.. I want to see multiple seasons/postseasons of this high level basketball play before making that statement.

I think this poll is 2nd best player in the NBA this year, not career.

If it's career you might have Wade or Paul Pierce on the list, but they're not for good reason.

I think he more so meant that the numbers may be in their favour, but Durant would probably be the second pick in an NBA draft, and I would agree with that.

[Pablo Escobar]

What KD's been doing on both ends has been phenomenal.

[AIfan3]

Probably Curry or Durant..

[baller16]

So because of 5 games Durant played 5 years ago, in a losing effort mind you, he is better than Curry? Both Durant and Curry have under-performed in the playoffs the past two years, but Durant has been worse. And it's kind of a trump card when the last 3 games they played against each other, Curry outplayed Durant pretty clearly, and his team won all 3 games, while Durant's team lost a 3-1 lead. Durant joined Curry, not vice versa. Curry didn't need Durant, Durant needed Curry.

Did you happen to forget the first ever unanimous MVP's finals performance? 2 good season doesn't trump Durant's 8. Say what you what but Durant is putting up much better numbers and its not even close, compared to Curry's. Hard to make a case for Curry being the better player at the moment. Durant is the better player right now, end of discussion.

2 good seasons absolutely trumps 8 when it's the last two, and we're talking about right now. I mean, you wouldn't say Carmelo is better than Leonard because Kawhi has only been better 2 seasons.

We know what Kawhi is now because of his past couple, and we know what Curry is because of his last couple. Durant isn't at that level (Curry's last two). Maybe KD will elevate to that level, but he hasn't yet.

Bro wtf are you talking about. I said this season. Durant is the better player now. How is it so hard for a Warriors fan to comprehend that. Damn you watch both players play and still think Curry is better because of what he did last season? Smh. Curry is not not better than Durant this season.

[theforumblue]

i think it's still early to say if KD is better than curry, only because i think curry is taking a step back so KD can feel comfortable and learn the system quicker. closer to the playoff and obviously during playoffs is when we'll be really able to tell where curry is. i think he'll be the main guy on GW.

[Patches Perry]

Did you happen to forget the first ever unanimous MVP's finals performance? 2 good season doesn't trump Durant's 8. Say what you what but Durant is putting up much better numbers and its not even close, compared to Curry's. Hard to make a case for Curry being the better player at the moment. Durant is the better player right now, end of discussion.

2 good seasons absolutely trumps 8 when it's the last two, and we're talking about right now. I mean, you wouldn't say Carmelo is better than Leonard because Kawhi has only been better 2 seasons.

We know what Kawhi is now because of his past couple, and we know what Curry is because of his last couple. Durant isn't at that level (Curry's last two). Maybe KD will elevate to that level, but he hasn't yet.

Bro wtf are you talking about. I said this season. Durant is the better player now. How is it so hard for a Warriors fan to comprehend that. Damn you watch both players play and still think Curry is better because of what he did last season? Smh. Curry is not not better than Durant this season.

The question is who is the 2nd best player, not who is having the 2nd best season. If it was strictly about this season, LeBron wouldn't be assumed #1 and neither Curry or Durant would be #2 (Westbrook and Harden).

I love that you think I'm a Warriors fan. I'm sure some of the Warriors fans I get into it with will get a kick out of that.

[PeptoKlepto]

Curry is still the best player on this team, Durant or no Durant. Curry +15.3/Durant +8.8. When Durant is on the bench the Warriors are a +6.4. While Curry is on the bench the Warriors are a +1.8.

Aside from LeBron, Curry is the single more impactful player in the NBA.

That on/off stats in a way just favor Curry as he has been with the Warriors his entire career vs this being Durant's first year. Curry's on/off stats are also bolstered by the fact that his primary backups in Livingston and Clark are a -9.6 and -10.4 respectively.

There are stats that paint Durant in a better picture vs Curry too:

Averaging (26.1)1.5 more points per game with (17).5 less shots.
Co-leads team in rebounds
Leads team in BPM @ 8.5
Leads team in VORP @ 4
Leads team in ws/48 @ .289
Leads team in TS% @ 65.6
USG% is below Curry's @ 27.5
3rd on team in Ftr (behind Varejao and Zaza)

Box score stats don't tell the whole story, especially considering Steph has spent the first half of the season trying to assimilate Kevin into the team while making sure Klay still got his.

[SK21209]

I think most people have Curry, KD, Harden, Westbrook, and Kawhi in some order as the 2nd through 6th best players atm, but I honestly can't differentiate between them at all. I realize I'm probably a little higher on Kawhi than most

[The High Cyde]

I can't evaluate Durant this season, or rather I don't know how to. It's evident he's having one of his best seasons, if not the unequivocal best so far. Yet he's playing on an incredibly stacked roster, most likely of all time. Whenever I see him play on this Warriors team the guy looks damn unstoppable, his offense comes asininely easy and his defense has been great...but the guy has little to no pressure to perform, teams can't game plan for him because Curry is the bigger threat, Klay can get hotter than magma, and Draymond can lock down the paint and throw away the key. Durant has to exert minimal effort to seem unguardable and unstoppable. I don't know if that makes him the second best player, as Curry has outperformed him the last two years and leap frogged ahead of him as a player. Going by impact stats, Curry is still the more valuable player on the same team, and he runs that Warriors machine, so I'm gonna give him the title of second best player.