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Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis

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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Por... 

Post#401 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:03 pm

Dave4585 wrote:If we trade Melo we are getting a top 3 draft pick for sure


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Meaning our own? As the Knicks get worse?
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#402 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

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Cleveland's 2020 2nd round pick to L.A. Clippers (via Portland to Cleveland to Orlando) [Cleveland-Portland, 7/27/2015; Cleveland-Portland, 2/18/2016; Cleveland-Orlando, 2/18/2016; L.A. Clippers-Orlando, 7/15/2016]

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2017 second round draft pick to Boston
L.A. Clippers' 2017 2nd round pick to Boston [Boston-L.A. Clippers-Phoenix, 1/15/2015]

2018 second round draft pick to Philadelphia or New York
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#403 » by K_ick_God » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
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Mecca wrote:
Crawford has negative value and they can't give us a pick until 2020.


I'd rather get late unprotected picks form them. CP3 and Melo will be 35+...blake might not even be there. THose could eventually be really nice lotto picks.


Bingo.


Seems like a fair way to go about this. Clips get something immediate to help them get over the hump, on a long layaway plan -- pay more later for getting something good right now.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#404 » by duetta » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

There are no deals worth doing unless Boston becomes involved, and Carmelo is willing to go there. I don't want any of the trash that the Clippers can offer - and I will call for Jackson's head if that's what we end up being stuck with.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#405 » by Mecca » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

I would flip JJ Redick to the Pacers for their 1st round pick almost immediately. They need a 2 guard that can shoot off ball so bad.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#406 » by DE FENSE » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

WTF is happening? Are there bidders? Damn how are all you people on this site at 3pm on a work day LOL
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#407 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

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ibraheim718 wrote:Damn this schit heated up quick!


Mecca wrote:This is moving so fast. Melo will be gone within 48 hours at this point.


Agreed. If they're leaking something like this it means they found something they liked.


could be to force CLE hand. Risk losing out and getting LeBron mad.

Obviously the knicks reached out to CLE first and they turned it down which got LeBron mad. Now leak they have a deal ready with the clips and have LeBron tell his front office to make the deal or else.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#408 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:04 pm

Dude that said Rivers will be included is an LA writer so could have pull.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#409 » by kane2021 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:05 pm

"You won't play defense?!!!! I gave up my some for you!!!"

Hell nah man. Won't be me. Trade vetoed.


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Post#410 » by DOT » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:05 pm

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Dave4585 wrote:If we trade Melo we are getting a top 3 draft pick for sure


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Meaning our own? As the Knicks get worse?

Probably
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#411 » by Jstarks3 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:05 pm

we got raped trading for melo, we're gonna get raped trading melo.

only the knicks.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Por... 

Post#412 » by Dave4585 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:05 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Dave4585 wrote:If we trade Melo we are getting a top 3 draft pick for sure


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Meaning our own? As the Knicks get worse?


Lol yeah should of been more clear with that. I mean as of how bad we are going to be. We are still losing the majority of games with Melo actually playing really good.


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Post#413 » by Mecca » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

I went from being the biggest Austin Rivers hater to a big fan of his game. He plays D and shoots the 3, 2 things we lack.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#414 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Jstarks3 wrote:we got raped trading for melo, we're gonna get raped trading melo.

only the knicks.

best asset that we're gonna gain is our own 2017 pick ending up higher in the lottery
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#415 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Doc put in some good work here... didn't he lose some teeth one game?

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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#416 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Crawford
Rivers
2020 pick top 5 protected
2021 pick swap top 5 protected

They go the next available year till the 7 year kicks in

Best deal you're going to get.

Just get it over with
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#417 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Mecca wrote:I would flip JJ Redick to the Pacers for their 1st round pick almost immediately. They need a 2 guard that can shoot off ball so bad.


Doubt indy would give up a first for an expiring contract.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#418 » by IllmaticHandler » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:07 pm

Rivers is kinda aight now. He is not the bust he used to be.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#419 » by knickstape21 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:07 pm

This JSports_Ent is such a clown. He doesn't know ish.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#420 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:07 pm

K P 6 wrote:Dude that said Rivers will be included is an LA writer so could have pull.


Where is the quote? Do you mind answering with it, as I don't think I can browse all 20 pages right now
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