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Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis

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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#661 » by NYKHardKnock » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 pm

Honestly I would prefer a first pick for 2020/21. We need something to happen, Phil you better figure something out
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#662 » by DOT » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:15 pm

K P 6 wrote:Boston we'll thow in Courtnee lee if you give up that pick. lol

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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#663 » by StrawberryLove » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:15 pm

I really wish we, as a fanbase, could've enjoyed some winning basketball with Melo as our Alpha Dog. As much as I hate seeing Melo's time come to an end, the direction the franchise needs to take has never been clearer.

With KP and Billy and our 1st round pick this year [which could be a top 10 pick, potentially, via the tank]. That's a solid start. Assuming we let Rose walk, we'll be a team with cap space (yes, the Noah deal is trash but I think it can be moved in a year or two), youth, and our draft picks.

Given that, piecing together trade rumors and math...it appears that these are the two deals we're looking at.

Assuming Melo is willing to waive his NTC in either of these scenarios. Which do you pick?

Clippers Offer:
Rivers (24 years old) will make 11.8M next season and then has a player option for 12.6M the following season.
Crawford (36 years old) will make 14.2M and 14.5M for the next two seasons.
2020 1st round pick
2021 1st round pick

OR

Boston Offer:
Amir Johnson (29 years old), expiring contract after this season.
Jae Crowder (26 years old) 6.7M next season, 7.3 M the following, 7.8 mill after that
Jerebko (29 years old) expiring contract after this season
2018 1st round pick (BKN pick) [They aint coming off that BKN pick this year for Melo. We can let go of that pipe dream]
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#664 » by poeman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:15 pm

Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Why are some people talking like it's a done deal? All I see is speculation.



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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#665 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:15 pm

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boomann21 wrote:The Clippers do not have any picks for this upcoming draft?

Doc doesn't like draft picks


Then I think we should deal with Boston. They have more young prospects and picks and I'll take Jae Crowder too.


oh rly? is that how trades work?
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#666 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:15 pm

this Melo trade will be Phil's 2nd biggest move of his FO career...all I ask is that he doesn't fuq it up
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#667 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:16 pm

Somebody gotta find a pick. We not gift wrapping Melo lol
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#668 » by El Poochio » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:16 pm

Truth is Clips in their lives would never get players like CP3 Blake in their roster ever again GET DESPERATE DOC SELL YOUR SON
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#669 » by poeman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:16 pm

I want that Brooklyn pick so bad...

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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#670 » by El Poochio » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:17 pm

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Post#671 » by boomann21 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:18 pm

Melo for Crowder, Jordan Mikey, Terry Rozier and a pick or two
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Post#672 » by Juggynaut » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:18 pm

TY PHIL, get 6 1st round picks from the Clippers.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#673 » by HEZI » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:19 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
if the melo deal gets us into the top 5 in the draft we don't look stupid.


The Melo dark cloud that's hovering over the franchise is doing a good job of leading us in that direction right now. The team is demoralized and distracted. We look like the absolute worst team in the league right now. A roster shakeup could actually spark some life back into the team.

I'd like a team with some life right about now
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#674 » by boomann21 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:19 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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Greenie wrote:Doc doesn't like draft picks


Then I think we should deal with Boston. They have more young prospects and picks and I'll take Jae Crowder too.


oh rly? is that how trades work?


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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#675 » by ozwizard8 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:20 pm

KnicksChamps wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:how sad this is


apparently most of the knicks fans here are so excited to see a move that they are not looking at this with open eyes


Melo is actually playing quite well - passing, rebounding, defending
the media has been up his a$$ about trades and he's been all class



meanwhile

Melo makes 5 mil a year more than Noah but there is zero talk about Noah and his contract
Phil has been invisible this whole time, which to me is really unacceptable
Phil has totally spoiled the relationship now and its gotten to the point where we dont have the option of trading Melo we now have the urgency to do so and that never leads to a good trade
Teams see this mess and players see this mess and none are gonna bend over backwards to make things better for us


Phil has screwed this up, not melo

and fans who just want Melo "the crybaby" or whatever gone are not thinking clearly
nor are fans who think picks are some magic bean that can't fail

Trading Melo to LA won't get us anything valuable
Trading Melo to Clev won't get us anything valuable

and then all of you crying for a trade will turn your attention to screaming for Phil's head for the bad trade

the only destination worth anything is Boston and that should make every real Knicks fan nauseous

unless we get BKs pick, Crowder and one of their guards like Smart or Bradley {with Amir Johnson to make salary work} then we are getting a bad deal

you dont make a deal just to make one
Id have thought knicks fans would understand that by now


This is refreshing, NLR. I really truly don't understand the angst toward Melo. He's very flawed, yes, but the man is being a real pro about everything. People are so blinded by his failures that they fail to comprehend that he is the reason we haven't been the absolute worst team in the league these past few years.

Getting fleeced in a deal just to move him would make no sense. I want a young player who might not be seeing playing time, or I want picks. Regardless of what ends up happening with him though, I'm rooting for that man to succeed (except in Boston).

Melo still has value. His contract looks fine. He would probably add 5-10 wins any team he goes.
Problem is Knicks suffer from extra wins.

When you're 40-50 win team Melo would be good addition.
However its negative for us. 35 win season is a disaster if you compare it to 20 win season.

We need to tank. There isnt any other magical way to get star players here. Lets dont waste KP's career like we did Melo's.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#676 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:20 pm

K P 6 wrote:
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K P 6 wrote:Greenie right now. she wants to keep seeing this man waste his years not winning while holind us back.

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Shut up. Melo ain't holding nothing back. His contract is solid too. Gordon going sign for 230...

I think he's holding back a fresh start. The Melo era is over. We won 1 playoff series with him.


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Post#677 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:20 pm

I can see everyone jumping off the bridge.

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In a turn of events knicks trade KP and their first to Sac for Cousins. When reporters ask Melo for his reaction in another band aid move, Melo simple replied

"Did you see who we got, we got a beast to throw it down low to. They scared now"
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#678 » by DOT » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:20 pm

SMAC-K wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
The Melo dark cloud that's hovering over the franchise is doing a good job of leading us in that direction right now. The team is demoralized and distracted. We look like the absolute worst team in the league right now. A roster shakeup could actually spark some life back into the team.

I'd like a team with some life right about now
Isn't that what Noah's for?
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Demoralized, you know what that means?

They need MJ's secret stuff

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Post#679 » by Yodi2007 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:21 pm

K P 6 wrote:I can see this happening.

Phil: Okay Melo we have a trade on the table sending you to LA to play with Blake, Paul, and Deandre.

Melo: Nah I'm okay, I love it here in New York. I want to win here.


Phil: Okay, that's how you want to play ball? How about you ride the pine the next couple of years? No olympics or All-star games.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#680 » by NYKAL » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:22 pm

Next thing Melo will be responsible for the tension between the USA and Russia. He caused the bank and auto crisis too. Cause the Iraq war and is the reason the dinosaurs went extinct.

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