Political Roundtable Part XII

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The photos were completely clear about the lack of crowd as well as another automated data point -- metro rides.

Trying to deny reality like this brings this to mind:

"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

-- "1984" by George Orwell

[payitforward]

I'm starting to worry about Trump. We can't have a President lose his emotional control. & if it's happening this quickly, I'm really concerned for what he might be moved to do or, I guess, not do.

As well, I don't like seeing anyone suffer -- I could be altogether wrong, of course, but he really does seem to be suffering.

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That's because Trump is in over his freaking head! The presidency of the US is not a job for an empty suit.

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We all know who's really running the country




Dude is playing 6D hyperbolic chess

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I love me some 80s Trump



This track is FIRE

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FIRE!!!!

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Real talk that track is really good propaganda

He would have won 100/0 if the public heard that crack

[tontoz]

I have a feeling that Pence will end up doing a lot more work than any VP before him.

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Bill Clinton with the sax solo of peace and prosperity lmao

[verbal8]

I'm way too tired of all this "winning".

Like Charlie Sheen "getting attention for acting crazy" = winning.

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I wonder if this is related:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/26/it-turns-out-trump-son-in-law-jared-kushner-is-also-registered-to-vote-in-two-states/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.6ad759959c5b

[popper]

Here ya go, popper: here's your "we have all the leverage, they have none" BS served back on a plate. Enjoy eating it: http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wall-tariff-would-hurt-auto-industry

Yeah. My bad. I didn't think I would need to state the obvious, that toaster ovens will cost a bit more and so will some cars in order to employ Americans vs. offshore manufacturing. I thought everyone here understood that. I can only speak for myself but I'm happy to pay more to employ Americans, but I'm an evil conservative.

[popper]

Just like it's a certainty IMO that Trump will win the "Mexico pays for the Wall" conflict (we have all the leverage, they have none) I also see the sanctuary city conflict being resolved relatively quickly. For instance Trump might prohibit all federal agencies or organizations receiving funds from the treasury from participating in any conventions or meetings taking place in sanctuary cities. There's a dozen other policies he could enact that would devastate the economies of the law breaking municipalities.

Well, at least you included an "IMO" in this sequence of false and/or fake "certainties." I give you credit for that.

Tell me, if Mexico has to pay a tax or tariff on goods it exports here, will that lower the price of those goods, raise the price of those goods, or have no effect on the price of those goods? I count on you to understand that it will raise the price of those goods.

Who will pay that higher price, hmmmm? Lets say some brake parts for a Ford Taurus come from Mexico. When their price goes up, inevitably the price of the Ford Taurus goes up, doesn't it? Or shouldn't we mention that? Who pays that higher price for the Taurus? An American consumer. So... who is it who's paying for the wall, do tell me again?

You may be tempted to reply that the higher price will incentivize Ford to start making those brake parts in the US. It may. Over an extended time. If consumers buy fewer Ford Taurus cars. Then again, it's kind of useful to spread the down side risk w/ a Mexican partner. One less factory for you to take out of existence when problems arise. As well, when a different company in Mexico comes up w/ a better brake part, there's little friction for Ford in switching.

Here's something else to absorb:

HIgher prices on imported car parts > higher prices for cars > fewer cars sold > fewer cars built > fewer auto workers.

Hmmmm....

As to the "sanctuary city" conflict (you know... the one you just made up), you sure do like those dictatorial powers, don't you? Wow, that's how to fix everything.

When you say "law-breaking municipalities" btw, don't we usually respond to "law breaking" by way of the justice system? Or is that too indirect for the new version of America? Btw, can you point to any laws any municipality would be breaking? Hmmm?

One of the hallmarks of conservatism, I thought, was less government power, in fact, less government altogether. You don't give much evidence of an interest in that. Rather the opposite.

My understanding is as follows. If you have better or more accurate info I'm happy to be educated.

In 1996 Pub L, 104-208 became law, also known as the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA ). The IIRIRA requires local governments to cooperate with Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agency. Despite the IIRIRA, hundreds of urban, suburban, and rural communities have ignored the law and adopted sanctuary policies.

Edit- you mention the justice systems role as it regards my post. Anyone paying attention knows that the previous president violated the "the take care clause" in numerous instances and supported his AG who was held in contempt of congress in a bipartisan vote. Justice was subordinated to politics under Obama.

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I'm starting to worry about Trump. We can't have a President lose his emotional control. & if it's happening this quickly, I'm really concerned for what he might be moved to do or, I guess, not do.

As well, I don't like seeing anyone suffer -- I could be altogether wrong, of course, but he really does seem to be suffering.

What do you mean lose it? You can't lose what you never had.

[sfam]

I'm starting to worry about Trump. We can't have a President lose his emotional control. & if it's happening this quickly, I'm really concerned for what he might be moved to do or, I guess, not do.

As well, I don't like seeing anyone suffer -- I could be altogether wrong, of course, but he really does seem to be suffering.

What do you mean lose it? You can't lose what you never had.

Trump seems the absolute same as he's been for a year now. This is what we bought. No difference. Bright shiny objects, rash (decisive!) actions and perceived slights are what we get for the next four years. This seems completely expected. What did you think his presidency would be like?

[popper]

Miami-Dade county mayor reverses sanctuary policy. Others will follow relatively quickly.

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[DCZards]

In 1996 Pub L, 104-208 became law, also known as the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA ). The IIRIRA requires local governments to cooperate with Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agency. Despite the IIRIRA, hundreds of urban, suburban, and rural communities have ignored the law and adopted sanctuary policies.

Edit- you mention the justice systems role as it regards my post. Anyone paying attention knows that the previous president violated the "the take care clause" in numerous instances and supported his AG who was held in contempt of congress in a bipartisan vote. Justice was subordinated to politics under Obama.

Well, if justice was "subordinated to politics" under Obama, then it's about to get a lot worse. Because our new president wants to waste taxpayers money having the justice dept. investigate the "3-4 million illegal votes" that he claims were cast in the last election. This massive "voter fraud" is a problem that exists only in Trump's insecure mind. His narcissistic ego won't let him accept the reality that he lost the popular vote to Hillary. So he's looking for some "alternative facts."