Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong"

[Edug27]

What happened to the guy that got his first vs the Cavs and was impressive vs Lebron?

He gets a huge chance at home vs the Rockets and lays an egg. He isn't playing with an urgency, consistancy or heart.

My main concern with Brown last season at Cal was his mental game. His physically tools were his strength. Brown is still passive and mentally doesn't get up for games on a regular basis. Not good signs. It's not a age or experience thing.

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I dont see this AT ALL with Brown STILL. every game I see him out there he is active but he makes bone head rookie mistakes, gets in foul trouble, or is pulled too quick to make a difference.

This kid is not Jeff Green and the comp is insulting

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At the moment, his game is a lot like Jeff's. He's not as good as Jeff was, but very similar styles and feels for the game. I do have faith that Jaylen will develop to be a much better player than Jeff was in his prime. But that's all faith and hope right now.

[chrisab123]

Please don't compare him to benzo

That's what r2g said :/

I don't think he'll end up as benzos though.

I didn't brink up Jeff Green's name. But the mindset, the mental make is close as of now. Brown does not have that alph male mentality on the court like stars have. He doesn't have that chip on his shoulder.

He took a back sir to Ivan Rabb in the Tourny last season and it's more of the same with the Celtics half way through the season.

I've been very critical of Brown. That said while I'm not sure he has the alpha mentality or not the way he attacks the rim is an excellent sign for the future. If he becomes a rich mans Jeff Green then that's a perennial all star. Green always had the talent to do this but lack of intensity and overall feel of the game is what held him back.

[Iguodaladon]

Why are we likening Brown to Green? Saying their mental makeup at this stage is completely insane and comparing their games is almost as bad.

[24istheLAW]

Re: the Benzo comparison. You're comparing rookie Jaylen to a rookie who started 3 years at Georgetown.

It seems to me like Jaylen is thinking a lot when he's on the court. He plays like there are things running through his head. That's supposedly how he is, so it's an obstacle he'll have to get through. If he does, he's a leader and that weakness will be a strength. I don't think he's a space cadet, when he knows what to do, he does it with gusto. Just a matter of getting a handle on that.

Overall, I'm neither encouraged nor alarmed. He hasn't done anything that makes me think he's hitting a best case scenario. But he hasn't done anything that makes me panic either. Growing pains were to be expected and he needs to go through them.

Note that isn't strictly relevant to basketball: while the "thoughtful kid" thing seemed overblown at the draft, as we see more of him, it is becoming evident that he is very easy to root for.

[London2Boston]

Not a single rookie from this class would have come to this team and made himself an alpha. I'm not holding that against him yet.

[Edug27]

Not a single rookie from this class would have come to this team and made himself an alpha. I'm not holding that against him yet.

Might just mean there are no Alphas in the draft class.

And I also disagree. Simmons would have came here and shined. He's legit.

[London2Boston]

Not a single rookie from this class would have come to this team and made himself an alpha. I'm not holding that against him yet.

Might just mean there are no Alphas in the draft class.

And I also disagree. Simmons would have came here and shined. He's legit.

Most likely, but Simmons hasn't even played a game yet so I couldn't really say him.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Jaylen is trying to play the game at 100 mph. He's rushing everything. Once the game slows down for him, he'll be fine.

[return2glory]

What happened to the guy that got his first vs the Cavs and was impressive vs Lebron?

He gets a huge chance at home vs the Rockets and lays an egg. He isn't playing with an urgency, consistancy or heart.

My main concern with Brown last season at Cal was his mental game. His physically tools were his strength. Brown is still passive and mentally doesn't get up for games on a regular basis. Not good signs. It's not a age or experience thing.

I'm going to challenge some of this.

Of course he's not consistent. He's a kid. Playing with men.

But more to the point - how do you know he "doesn't get up for games" and that he isn't "playing with heart".

And passive? If anything the kid is overly aggressive.

I think you're confusing outcomes with root causes.

He is 20. Lebron was ballin at 18 in the league with men.

I haven't seen him dive for a ball yet. Nor take one charge. He is passive at times. Overall my aggressive? Maybe on a few drive a game. The rest of the time he isn't doing much.

He disappeared in long stretches at Cal last season also. It's still early but I'm not impressed. He needs to start playing a lot better by next season.

[fallguy]

What happened to the guy that got his first vs the Cavs and was impressive vs Lebron?

He gets a huge chance at home vs the Rockets and lays an egg. He isn't playing with an urgency, consistancy or heart.

My main concern with Brown last season at Cal was his mental game. His physically tools were his strength. Brown is still passive and mentally doesn't get up for games on a regular basis. Not good signs. It's not a age or experience thing.

I'm going to challenge some of this.

Of course he's not consistent. He's a kid. Playing with men.

But more to the point - how do you know he "doesn't get up for games" and that he isn't "playing with heart".

And passive? If anything the kid is overly aggressive.

I think you're confusing outcomes with root causes.

He is 20. Lebron was ballin at 18 in the league with men.

I haven't seen him dive for a ball yet. Nor take one charge. He is passive at times. Overall my aggressive? Maybe on a few drive a game. The rest of the time he isn't doing much.

He disappeared in long stretches at Cal last season also. It's still early but I'm not impressed. He needs to start playing a lot better by next season.

Sure, if you want to compare him to one of the five best players of all time, then he's inconsistent. But really, that's hardly the bar.

We're three months into his career. You're gonna have to be patient.

[DijonRondo]

I don't want anyone to think that I'm comparing Brown to Benzos. All i'm saying is, r2g's analysis of Brown is completely spot on to Green during his team in green. I don't necessarily agree with his analysis though. I have a huge man crush on this boy Jaylen.

[KGboss]

Well he's playing pretty good right now

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[redbeamer]

Holla at ya boy!

[jfs1000d]

Brown is Going to be good. Watch him next year. He's learning to play right now at a high level. Look at Kawahi Leonard his first year. This reminds me of that situation.

People think minutes, even bad minutes, Are good. I think bad minutes and empty minutes and good stats for a bad teams does nothing for you.

The point is to win basketball games. Jaylen is getting a professional education. This is a perfect spot for him.




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[Ed Pinkney]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but what do people think his long term position is? He seems in between the 2 and 3 a little to me, lacks a bit of size for the 3, lacks a bit of shooting (at the moment) for the 2.

[Banks2Pierce]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but what do people think his long term position is? He seems in between the 2 and 3 a little to me, lacks a bit of size for the 3, lacks a bit of shooting (at the moment) for the 2.

More 3/4 than 2/3. Don't see a size issue at the 3 whatsoever.

[_UnderScore]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but what do people think his long term position is? He seems in between the 2 and 3 a little to me, lacks a bit of size for the 3, lacks a bit of shooting (at the moment) for the 2.

More 3/4 than 2/3. Don't see a size issue at the 3 whatsoever.

I don't either he's 6'7 with great length and athleticism. Once he gets a better understanding of the NBA game he's going to be fine at the 3.


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[Smog]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but what do people think his long term position is? He seems in between the 2 and 3 a little to me, lacks a bit of size for the 3, lacks a bit of shooting (at the moment) for the 2.

More 3/4 than 2/3. Don't see a size issue at the 3 whatsoever.

He has enough handle to play in the backcourt and he can defend the smaller guys without much of a problem. Obviously the shooting is the issue. He's big for a guard and average for a 3. I think if you play him at guard he can be more effective on offense because he'll get more cheap baskets overpowering people on the other end, and that's with roughly the same impact defensively.

[Jingles]

Can only laugh at the Jeff Green comp.

[DoubleHappiness]

He is a 3. He adds a little weight and he's a legit 3. He' still young and learning to slash correctly. Let's revisit next season to see if he's tightened the handle and shot. I used to compare him to Jeffy G but his makeup, while sometimes seeming disinterested based on expression and mannerism, is not the same. Kid is somewhat locked in usually. It will come with time. Being around IT, Marcus, Avery, and Jae is the best developmental atmosphere a player could hope for.