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Rexperez wrote:Wow. No contest on the 1st. I wonder what rozier's trade value would be today, i've read somewhere in the trade board that smitty said last summer league that rozier was nearing untouchable territory due to all the hype he's got. Now he's down to earth.
so what big could rozier + minimum pick get?
RickyDizzle wrote:Rexperez wrote:Wow. No contest on the 1st. I wonder what rozier's trade value would be today, i've read somewhere in the trade board that smitty said last summer league that rozier was nearing untouchable territory due to all the hype he's got. Now he's down to earth.
so what big could rozier + minimum pick get?
What's a minimum pick? A late second?
For the Magic, this trade could send them back to a state of rebuild. Vucevic is one of the team’s best players. Getting rid of him could also lead to moving on from guys like Serge Ibaka and D.J. Augustin.
In all likelihood, the Magic will trade Vucevic for some young players and expiring contracts. The Magic could be receiving guys like Terry Rozier, Amir Johnson or Jonas Jerekbo.
Obviously, they are not the type of players that the Magic are going to build around.
Our Zach Palmer posed a trade with the Celtics that involved Vucevic a few days ago in a OrlandoMagicDaily.com round table post.
It sent Vucevic and C.J. Watson to Boston for Amir Johnson, Demetrius Jackson and Guerschon Yabusele. This is the kind of trade to expect if Vucevic gets sent to Boston. An expiring contract and two developmental players that could make an impact down the road.
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Still like Noel and Okafor. But Vuc is good, his defense is improving. Getting him not to be a black hole on offense will be tougher, but if the price is Amir, Jackson, Yabusele it's tough to say no. If we needed max cap space, or a trade for a star, he's movable. Might even be a bridge to Cousins, like Wally Z got us Ray.
Wonder if Ainge is thinking then he gets Faried/1st for Zeller+, gives up the cap space, but has the B+ All-Stars and two more high lotto picks. Horford/Vuc with Faried, Zizic and Olynyk off the bench is good enough to give you a puncher's chance.
A-Win-Win wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j7xaehk
NYK: Nets 17' and 18' 1st's via BOS + Expiring/Filler Contracts
BOS: Demarcus Cousins (sign and trade)
SAC: Kevin Love, Derrick Rose (5 yr sign and trade 3rd yr team option), Jaylen Brown (via BOS)
CLE: Anthony, Jennings, Kelly Olynyk (via BOS), Ska Labissiere (Via Sac)
What do you think?
A-Win-Win wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j7xaehk
NYK: Nets 17' and 18' 1st's via BOS + Expiring/Filler Contracts
BOS: Demarcus Cousins (sign and trade)
SAC: Kevin Love, Derrick Rose (5 yr sign and trade 3rd yr team option), Jaylen Brown (via BOS)
CLE: Anthony, Jennings, Kelly Olynyk (via BOS), Ska Labissiere (Via Sac)
What do you think?
darrendaye wrote:Andrew McCeltic wrote:Still like Noel and Okafor. But Vuc is good, his defense is improving. Getting him not to be a black hole on offense will be tougher, but if the price is Amir, Jackson, Yabusele it's tough to say no. If we needed max cap space, or a trade for a star, he's movable. Might even be a bridge to Cousins, like Wally Z got us Ray.
Wonder if Ainge is thinking then he gets Faried/1st for Zeller+, gives up the cap space, but has the B+ All-Stars and two more high lotto picks. Horford/Vuc with Faried, Zizic and Olynyk off the bench is good enough to give you a puncher's chance.
I'd push for Rozier rather than Yabusele, but I guess that's dependent on other moves Ainge would have in mind. But, with a ball-handler heavy top 5 in the draft I'd rather thin the heard in the backcourt rather than frontcourt.
Adding Vucevic (or a cap hold for Noel) would leave us enough cap space to have flexibility while making us incrementally better. We could even trade Vuc at the draft, if we wanted to.
It's a relatively 'safe' move. Would even deal Crowder in the mix if it brought back Hezonja.
Mencius wrote:Adding Vucevic (or a cap hold for Noel) would leave us enough cap space to have flexibility while making us incrementally better. We could even trade Vuc at the draft, if we wanted to.
It's a relatively 'safe' move. Would even deal Crowder in the mix if it brought back Hezonja.
Was with you on your entire post until the last sentence. I wouldn't even trade Crowder for Hezonja straight up. I don't get the fascination with him. Agree about Vuc and his reasonable contract being a low risk and easily movable play. He'd be a nice additon that I doubt would cost all that much. Danny probably already has a feel for his chances of landing Hayward in free agency. If he feels the chances are slim (my own suspicion, given the new CBA and Utah being a likely playoff team,) it makes sense to upgrade if you're not giving up any of your best assets, particularly given that Vuc is pretty young still.
A-Win-Win wrote:You don't think a core of Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Horford, Cousins would help land Hayward in the summer?