Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)
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Fun topic.
Unfortunately for us, I think the pels would ask for Draymond and Klay - or that level of talent. They know we can't afford 4 stars long term, and KD/Curry are off the table. But if we were willing to part with both of them, it is likely within the realm of possibility.
Here's my hypothetical.
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6772019
GSW Out: Klay & Dray
GSW In: Noel (S&T),Covington & AD
Covington is probably being greedy, but whatever. Those 3 with Curry and KD is terrifying.
Philly Out: Okafor, Noel (S&T), Covington
Philly In: Klay
May seem like a steep price for Klay, but if you consider Noel gone this summer no matter what (which I believe), Covington+Okafor for Klay is pretty solid. Embiid, Simmons, & Klay would be great together.
NOLA Out: AD
NOLA In: Draymond & Okafor
Don't know if this is enough, Draymond+Okafor is essentially two parts of what AD is. But keeps them young, and relocates the talent across their roster. I know Gentry was one of Dray's biggest supporters back in the day, and Okafor's game is complimentary to Draymond.
We wont be trading for AD, but this would be my hypothetical if we really ever did make a run.
Unfortunately for us, I think the pels would ask for Draymond and Klay - or that level of talent. They know we can't afford 4 stars long term, and KD/Curry are off the table. But if we were willing to part with both of them, it is likely within the realm of possibility.
Here's my hypothetical.
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6772019
GSW Out: Klay & Dray
GSW In: Noel (S&T),Covington & AD
Covington is probably being greedy, but whatever. Those 3 with Curry and KD is terrifying.
Philly Out: Okafor, Noel (S&T), Covington
Philly In: Klay
May seem like a steep price for Klay, but if you consider Noel gone this summer no matter what (which I believe), Covington+Okafor for Klay is pretty solid. Embiid, Simmons, & Klay would be great together.
NOLA Out: AD
NOLA In: Draymond & Okafor
Don't know if this is enough, Draymond+Okafor is essentially two parts of what AD is. But keeps them young, and relocates the talent across their roster. I know Gentry was one of Dray's biggest supporters back in the day, and Okafor's game is complimentary to Draymond.
We wont be trading for AD, but this would be my hypothetical if we really ever did make a run.
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Yeah the Warriors would be a more complete team with AD for Klay....it aint gonna happen though, both teams are happy with their guy
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U play Davis at Center and he wont play more than 60 games a year... too fragile
The move to make would KAT... send Davis to Minny
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ILOVEIT wrote:Are the Warriors a much better team with Anthony Davis (using Klay in a trade)?
I think a line up with:
Curry, McCaw or other, Durant, Green, Anthony Davis
beats 7 our of 10 times.
Curry, Klay, Durant, Green, ZaZa
Fantasy land here....IF the Pelicans and Warriors were able to construct a deal for Klay and Anthony Davis....would you as the GM pull the trigger. Do you think the first starting 5 are vastly better than our current with Klay?
I love Klay, but i'd fly over and personally drive him to NO
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DLeagueAllStars wrote:U play Davis at Center and he wont play more than 60 games a year... too fragile
The move to make would KAT... send Davis to Minny
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If it's the original deal of just Klay for Davis, then Ant's workload would be significantly lessened from what he is currently doing. He'd get tonnes of 4th quarters off and with Draybeast next to him, he wouldn't have to do as much heavy lifting anyway, cause Green is a monster.
Curry/Liv
Clarke/McCaw
Durant/Iggy
Draymond/West/Looney
Davis/Zaza/Javale
Pretty good.
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Coxy wrote:DLeagueAllStars wrote:U play Davis at Center and he wont play more than 60 games a year... too fragile
The move to make would KAT... send Davis to Minny
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If it's the original deal of just Klay for Davis, then Ant's workload would be significantly lessened from what he is currently doing. He'd get tonnes of 4th quarters off and with Draybeast next to him, he wouldn't have to do as much heavy lifting anyway, cause Green is a monster.
Curry/Liv
Clarke/McCaw
Durant/Iggy
Draymond/West/Looney
Davis/Zaza/Javale
Pretty good.
Not saying its not, but his track record shows injuries
KAT doesnt and line up is as nice, plus he is cheaper get EC with it and make sure u have enough room to sign liv and dre
Neither is practical and all, but if we going fantasy land, go fantasy land and make monies work too
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DLeagueAllStars wrote:Coxy wrote:DLeagueAllStars wrote:U play Davis at Center and he wont play more than 60 games a year... too fragile
The move to make would KAT... send Davis to Minny
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If it's the original deal of just Klay for Davis, then Ant's workload would be significantly lessened from what he is currently doing. He'd get tonnes of 4th quarters off and with Draybeast next to him, he wouldn't have to do as much heavy lifting anyway, cause Green is a monster.
Curry/Liv
Clarke/McCaw
Durant/Iggy
Draymond/West/Looney
Davis/Zaza/Javale
Pretty good.
Not saying its not, but his track record shows injuries
KAT doesnt and line up is as nice, plus he is cheaper get EC with it and make sure u have enough room to sign liv and dre
Neither is practical and all, but if we going fantasy land, go fantasy land and make monies work too
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Fantasy land it is then. I'll take Embiid over both of those guys.
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Coxy wrote:DLeagueAllStars wrote:Coxy wrote:
If it's the original deal of just Klay for Davis, then Ant's workload would be significantly lessened from what he is currently doing. He'd get tonnes of 4th quarters off and with Draybeast next to him, he wouldn't have to do as much heavy lifting anyway, cause Green is a monster.
Curry/Liv
Clarke/McCaw
Durant/Iggy
Draymond/West/Looney
Davis/Zaza/Javale
Pretty good.
Not saying its not, but his track record shows injuries
KAT doesnt and line up is as nice, plus he is cheaper get EC with it and make sure u have enough room to sign liv and dre
Neither is practical and all, but if we going fantasy land, go fantasy land and make monies work too
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Fantasy land it is then. I'll take Embiid over both of those guys.
Deal, dont have to reup til next summer
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Coxy wrote:DLeagueAllStars wrote:U play Davis at Center and he wont play more than 60 games a year... too fragile
The move to make would KAT... send Davis to Minny
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If it's the original deal of just Klay for Davis, then Ant's workload would be significantly lessened from what he is currently doing. He'd get tonnes of 4th quarters off and with Draybeast next to him, he wouldn't have to do as much heavy lifting anyway, cause Green is a monster.
Curry/Liv
Clarke/McCaw
Durant/Iggy
Draymond/West/Looney
Davis/Zaza/Javale
Pretty good.
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I know this is just the hypothetical trade thread, but if I'm Bob Myers, I'm not breaking up the big 4 for anything (too much chemistry risk), until they retire ala the Spurs parker ginobili TD. imo big 4 should be warriors4life. side question: Do the rules allow Dubs to trade for Bogut?
Imagine a zaza, bogut, mcgee 3 headed monster in the playoffs, n would allow Bogut to not play heavy minutes. Could mix n match depending on matchups.
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Bball0000 wrote:I know this is just the hypothetical trade thread, but if I'm Bob Myers, I'm not breaking up the big 4 for anything (too much chemistry risk), until they retire ala the Spurs parker ginobili TD. imo big 4 should be warriors4life. side question: Do the rules allow Dubs to trade for Bogut?Imagine a zaza, bogut, mcgee 3 headed monster in the playoffs, n would allow Bogut to not play heavy minutes. Could mix n match depending on matchups.
The Warriors can't add Bogut to the roster this year per league rules.
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Chicago gets : Andre Iguodala, Brandon Jennings, Marshall Plumlee, 2017 second round draft pick from Chicago
[Chicago-New York, 6/22/2016] they get it back
New York gets: Rajon Rondo, JM Mcadoo, Paul Zipser
GS gets: Nikola Mirotic, Lance Thomas, Kyle O' Quinn ,Isiah Cannan
Chicago not a grade deal but Rindo isnt wanted , and not sure what they are thinking about Mirotic, They get agood defendfer in Iguodala, and good playoff performers with expiring contract. Jennings is combo guard with expiring, lots of scoring and penetrating, much like Corey Maggette nickname. they Plumlee and second round
New York gets a talent player and backup plan for Rose or vice versed, Paul Zipser was the get here
GS, get some more depth and another scorer in Mirotic, can Thomas matriculate into Iguodala role. Is kyle Oquinn an upgrade at center? Isiah Cannan is cheap they three point shooter to replace the role of Barbosa, not buying into Ian Clark just yet.
lets talk about the assests that GS getting
Lance Thomas: Combo forward who contributes primarily at defensive end/ Unexpectedly emerged as a 40 percent 3-point shooter last season
Kyle O'Quinn Skilled backup center whose high-post game fits well in triangle, Has range to about 20 feet on jumpers and is a good passer for center, Fine shot blocker and rebounder who tends to be prone to fouls
Nikola Mirotic:
+ Sharpshooter in Europe beginning to find 3-point range in the NBA,Displayed a less versatile offensive game in 2015-16
Unfairly maligned team defender; struggles one-on-one
Isiah Cannan: Pretty versatile, as long as he's shooting a 3; gets hot from downtown, Struggled mightily inside the arc, had to play too big an offensive role in Philly, Limited length and tools defensively
All these guys sound like GS players to me Lakerhater, mIrotic is expiring. and to get 3 players for almost 10.5 million is unheard of woth this CBA, and get this type return for expiring contract in Jguodala is hugh get. plus all these players are super young but not in there 30's either
[Chicago-New York, 6/22/2016] they get it back
New York gets: Rajon Rondo, JM Mcadoo, Paul Zipser
GS gets: Nikola Mirotic, Lance Thomas, Kyle O' Quinn ,Isiah Cannan
Chicago not a grade deal but Rindo isnt wanted , and not sure what they are thinking about Mirotic, They get agood defendfer in Iguodala, and good playoff performers with expiring contract. Jennings is combo guard with expiring, lots of scoring and penetrating, much like Corey Maggette nickname. they Plumlee and second round
New York gets a talent player and backup plan for Rose or vice versed, Paul Zipser was the get here
GS, get some more depth and another scorer in Mirotic, can Thomas matriculate into Iguodala role. Is kyle Oquinn an upgrade at center? Isiah Cannan is cheap they three point shooter to replace the role of Barbosa, not buying into Ian Clark just yet.
lets talk about the assests that GS getting
Lance Thomas: Combo forward who contributes primarily at defensive end/ Unexpectedly emerged as a 40 percent 3-point shooter last season
Kyle O'Quinn Skilled backup center whose high-post game fits well in triangle, Has range to about 20 feet on jumpers and is a good passer for center, Fine shot blocker and rebounder who tends to be prone to fouls
Nikola Mirotic:
+ Sharpshooter in Europe beginning to find 3-point range in the NBA,Displayed a less versatile offensive game in 2015-16
Unfairly maligned team defender; struggles one-on-one
Isiah Cannan: Pretty versatile, as long as he's shooting a 3; gets hot from downtown, Struggled mightily inside the arc, had to play too big an offensive role in Philly, Limited length and tools defensively
All these guys sound like GS players to me Lakerhater, mIrotic is expiring. and to get 3 players for almost 10.5 million is unheard of woth this CBA, and get this type return for expiring contract in Jguodala is hugh get. plus all these players are super young but not in there 30's either
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bigmean wrote:Chicago gets : Andre Iguodala, Brandon Jennings, Marshall Plumlee, 2017 second round draft pick from Chicago
[Chicago-New York, 6/22/2016] they get it back
New York gets: Rajon Rondo, JM Mcadoo, Paul Zipser
GS gets: Nikola Mirotic, Lance Thomas, Kyle O' Quinn ,Isiah Cannan
Chicago not a grade deal but Rindo isnt wanted , and not sure what they are thinking about Mirotic, They get agood defendfer in Iguodala, and good playoff performers with expiring contract. Jennings is combo guard with expiring, lots of scoring and penetrating, much like Corey Maggette nickname. they Plumlee and second round
New York gets a talent player and backup plan for Rose or vice versed, Paul Zipser was the get here
GS, get some more depth and another scorer in Mirotic, can Thomas matriculate into Iguodala role. Is kyle Oquinn an upgrade at center? Isiah Cannan is cheap they three point shooter to replace the role of Barbosa, not buying into Ian Clark just yet.
lets talk about the assests that GS getting
Lance Thomas: Combo forward who contributes primarily at defensive end/ Unexpectedly emerged as a 40 percent 3-point shooter last season
Kyle O'Quinn Skilled backup center whose high-post game fits well in triangle, Has range to about 20 feet on jumpers and is a good passer for center, Fine shot blocker and rebounder who tends to be prone to fouls
Nikola Mirotic:
+ Sharpshooter in Europe beginning to find 3-point range in the NBA,Displayed a less versatile offensive game in 2015-16
Unfairly maligned team defender; struggles one-on-one
Isiah Cannan: Pretty versatile, as long as he's shooting a 3; gets hot from downtown, Struggled mightily inside the arc, had to play too big an offensive role in Philly, Limited length and tools defensively
All these guys sound like GS players to me Lakerhater, mIrotic is expiring. and to get 3 players for almost 10.5 million is unheard of woth this CBA, and get this type return for expiring contract in Jguodala is hugh get. plus all these players are super young but not in there 30's either
We don't need to do this.
I do like Caanan however, and would like to explore ways of adding him to our team somehow.
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here part 2 to my deal
Golden State gets: Fred Van Vleet, Davis Bertans, Nerlens Noel
Philly gets: Danny Green, Kevon Looney, Kyle Anderson
San Antonio gets: Segio Rodriguez, Jared Sullinger, Norm Powell
Toronto gets: Robert Covington, Damien Jones, Patrick McCaw
GS gets a defensive center who can run the floor, they get two low level prospects who do fit in
Philly gets there 3 and d player and two young role players in the making
San anotnio improves there depth here, I am high on Powell
Toronto gets doesn't address there pf but they can go small ball with Lowry Derozan, Covington, Carroll and Jones V
net result of two deal
PG S curry, S Livingston, Van Vleet
SG Thompson, Clark, Canaan
SF Durant, Thomas, Bertans
PF Green,Mirotic, West
C Pachulia, Noel, O'quinn, McGee
and someone would have to be waived may be Van Vleet and send him to dleague
Golden State gets: Fred Van Vleet, Davis Bertans, Nerlens Noel
Philly gets: Danny Green, Kevon Looney, Kyle Anderson
San Antonio gets: Segio Rodriguez, Jared Sullinger, Norm Powell
Toronto gets: Robert Covington, Damien Jones, Patrick McCaw
GS gets a defensive center who can run the floor, they get two low level prospects who do fit in
Philly gets there 3 and d player and two young role players in the making
San anotnio improves there depth here, I am high on Powell
Toronto gets doesn't address there pf but they can go small ball with Lowry Derozan, Covington, Carroll and Jones V
net result of two deal
PG S curry, S Livingston, Van Vleet
SG Thompson, Clark, Canaan
SF Durant, Thomas, Bertans
PF Green,Mirotic, West
C Pachulia, Noel, O'quinn, McGee
and someone would have to be waived may be Van Vleet and send him to dleague
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bigmean wrote:here part 2 to my deal
Golden State gets: Fred Van Vleet, Davis Bertans, Nerlens Noel
Philly gets: Danny Green, Kevon Looney, Kyle Anderson
San Antonio gets: Segio Rodriguez, Jared Sullinger, Norm Powell
Toronto gets: Robert Covington, Damien Jones, Patrick McCaw
GS gets a defensive center who can run the floor, they get two low level prospects who do fit in
Philly gets there 3 and d player and two young role players in the making
San anotnio improves there depth here, I am high on Powell
Toronto gets doesn't address there pf but they can go small ball with Lowry Derozan, Covington, Carroll and Jones V
net result of two deal
PG S curry, S Livingston, Van Vleet
SG Thompson, Clark, Canaan
SF Durant, Thomas, Bertans
PF Green,Mirotic, West
C Pachulia, Noel, O'quinn, McGee
and someone would have to be waived may be Van Vleet and send him to dleague
McCaw, Jones and Looney for 6 months of Noel? No thanks.
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no you are discounting there needs and shooting the ability of bertans,
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bigmean wrote:no you are discounting there needs and shooting the ability of bertans,
He's a nice young player, but so is McCaw. Noel will get signed elsewhere, so essentially this deal is McCaw, Looney and Jones for Bertans, after this season.
The guys we have will be needed next season.
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Coxy wrote:bigmean wrote:no you are discounting there needs and shooting the ability of bertans,
He's a nice young player, but so is McCaw. Noel will get signed elsewhere, so essentially this deal is McCaw, Looney and Jones for Bertans, after this season.
The guys we have will be needed next season.
To your point, i would do that for Nurkic - as he's signed cheaply for next season.
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azwfan wrote:Coxy wrote:bigmean wrote:no you are discounting there needs and shooting the ability of bertans,
He's a nice young player, but so is McCaw. Noel will get signed elsewhere, so essentially this deal is McCaw, Looney and Jones for Bertans, after this season.
The guys we have will be needed next season.
To your point, i would do that for Nurkic - as he's signed cheaply for next season.
So would I.
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