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Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25)

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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#121 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:10 am

Zero Tolerance wrote:If it wasn't for Booker, the team would be unwatchable. He is the light at the end of the tunnel.

Warren just can't stay on the court can he? I almost wish Watson would just let him foul out every game, at least he would get the experience.


It's because he is finally playing some defense. Not great yet, but Booker hasn't made that transition yet and still got 5 fouls himself. Booker is looking good on offense lately.

The judgement of players here changes on the flip of a dime sometimes. These guys are still growing. Warren was easily our best player in the early part of the year. Booker is great. He is our best player long term. Bledsoe is our best player right now the way he has been playing.

Warren has not been the same since whatever happened to him did. That doesn't give us an excuse to play him, but since we have zero chance of going anywhere, why not? So I guess, in the end, I agree with you, let all these young guys who foul, foul until they foul out because that will likely be a better lesson learned.
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#122 » by GetYourPHX » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:47 am

This team is looking like it's two years away from being two years away.
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#123 » by DaleyBlind » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:57 am

LukasBMW wrote:I honestly don't even think that the Nuggets are very good. Yet we can't beat them. :noway:

Losses to the Wolves, Kings, Nuggets, Jazz, and even earlier to NOP might mean it's tank time.

Did you see the looks on some of our players faces? They know. :(

These last 3 losses might have crushed what little faith we had left.

We're gonna be sellers at the deadline.


Might?! Might?! Dude its been tank time for most of the season. Its seems some of the delusional ones are starting to come around now though.Now we just need the looneys in the FO to recgognise and trade out our old **** (tucker/chandler/knight)
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#124 » by LordCovington33 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:32 am

Sonne wrote:
simmbiid wrote:
sleepyvato wrote:Another excellent result, may this continue for the rest of the season. :)

As a sixers fan, I hope so. If you can keep the Lakers out of second position, we will be very grateful.
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sixers fan? more like a bandwagon fan :lol:


Salty much? Anyway, I will take that as a compliment since it shows we are heading in the right direction. 8-)
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Re: RE: Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#125 » by carey » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:10 pm

simmbiid wrote:
Sonne wrote:
sixers fan? more like a bandwagon fan


Salty much? Anyway, I will take that as a compliment since it shows we are heading in the right direction.


Take it however you want, but you've only been on the board for 1 year, your username is a pun on Embiid, and you only have 145 posts. If the shoe fits...
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Post#126 » by carey » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:12 pm

GetYourPHX wrote:This team is looking like it's two years away from being two years away.

We are a playoff team in 2 years if we make the right moves. This trade deadline is absolutely crucial to nail though.
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#127 » by Fo-Real » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:01 pm

Bled is looking more and more like a star, I don't want to trade him for a maybe. Bled, Booker, Chandler and Tucker have made this team watchable, Knight, Len and Warren have been consistent HOT GARBAGE. Len and Warren deserve the same hate Knight gets, they have all been equally either marginally decent or garbage all year, never game changer for the better. Tired of people making excuses for those two dudes just because they are younger. There is a **** reason we have to play Chandler and Tucker huge minutes, and the reason isn't completely bad coaching, those 3 are awful more than they are helpful.
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#128 » by Scutt » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:27 am

Fo-Real wrote:Bled is looking more and more like a star, I don't want to trade him for a maybe. Bled, Booker, Chandler and Tucker have made this team watchable, Knight, Len and Warren have been consistent HOT GARBAGE. Len and Warren deserve the same hate Knight gets, they have all been equally either marginally decent or garbage all year, never game changer for the better. Tired of people making excuses for those two dudes just because they are younger. There is a **** reason we have to play Chandler and Tucker huge minutes, and the reason isn't completely bad coaching, those 3 are awful more than they are helpful.


Look at our record right now, that is what playing Chandler and Tucker huge minutes has gotten us. There is absolutely no reason for it. Are you completely clueless to the idea that young players like Len and Warren still have upside? Both of them have had stretches this year where they have looked really good. Have you been watching games all season or do you have short term memory loss?

We are more than half way through the season now and we are a sub .500 team. Warren and Len should be allowed to play through their struggles at this point. Yet both have seen their minutes dwindle as of late because we are so hell bent on playing Chandler and Tucker, chasing the 8th seed. It has to be frustrating for 3rd and 4th year players to be treated like 19 year old rookies, especially when the vets who are taking their minutes are leading us to one of the worst records in the league. You would really rather watch old vets stat pad their way to a crappy record, over developing the young players and getting them valuable learning experience? That doesn't seem short sighted at all. :roll:

For the record, watching Chandler and Tucker continuing to play heavy minutes this late into the season makes me want to gouge my eyes out. Especially listening to Earl Watson spend all summer saying this was a season that would be prioritize player development over wins.
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#129 » by Fo-Real » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:05 am

It's idiotic of you to think they aren't already playing enough minutes to get better and just aren't. Get off your imaginary high horse with this dumb ****. This record is what playing better players than either of those two dudes is right, playing them more minutes means more losses and possibly breaking the spirits of truly talented young guys like Bender, Chriss and Ulis, atleast Chandler and Tucker are excellent examples for them of how to be a real Pro, compete at your max and consistency. The last time Warren was relevant in a game this year Archie **** Goodwin led us in scoring. Both Len and Warren lack hunger to compete, and neither is talented enough to overcome that deficit. Clueless is a term you should consider yourself. I'm not saying they are consistently absolutely terrible, just not gonna be the reason we win a damn thing. If you can get value for them, what each brings is replaceable. I have more hope for Len than I do for Warren, atleast he is a 7 footer who can move, neither has special written on them, take your rose colored glasses off. Year after year Warren has never been able to TAKE (TAKE BEING THE OPTIMUM WORD), the job from Tucker, it has always been we should just give it to him because, **** outplay him and TAKE the job and you get respect, HE CAN'T. Len might never be better than Tyson, even at his advanced age, I'm fine with him as a backup. Even if we traded Chandler, we would need to find STARTING CENTER! These two sho7ld not be untouchable in a deal that could help, that is all.
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#130 » by Scutt » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:40 pm

Fo-Real wrote:It's idiotic of you to think they aren't already playing enough minutes to get better and just aren't. Get off your imaginary high horse with this dumb ****. This record is what playing better players than either of those two dudes is right, playing them more minutes means more losses and possibly breaking the spirits of truly talented young guys like Bender, Chriss and Ulis, atleast Chandler and Tucker are excellent examples for them of how to be a real Pro, compete at your max and consistency. The last time Warren was relevant in a game this year Archie **** Goodwin led us in scoring. Both Len and Warren lack hunger to compete, and neither is talented enough to overcome that deficit. Clueless is a term you should consider yourself. I'm not saying they are consistently absolutely terrible, just not gonna be the reason we win a damn thing. If you can get value for them, what each brings is replaceable. I have more hope for Len than I do for Warren, atleast he is a 7 footer who can move, neither has special written on them, take your rose colored glasses off. Year after year Warren has never been able to TAKE (TAKE BEING THE OPTIMUM WORD), the job from Tucker, it has always been we should just give it to him because, **** outplay him and TAKE the job and you get respect, HE CAN'T. Len might never be better than Tyson, even at his advanced age, I'm fine with him as a backup. Even if we traded Chandler, we would need to find STARTING CENTER! These two sho7ld not be untouchable in a deal that could help, that is all.


:lol: :lol: Thanks for exposing yourself as a casual fan who doesn't even watch games. The Suns cut Goodwin before the season started and up until his mysterious head injury, Warren was averaging 20 points a game on good efficiency at the beginning of this season. Do you remember how bad Tucker was playing at the beginning of the season? Oh wait, you do not actually watch Suns games and players, just complain about them.

Why don't you take off your rose colored glasses for our rookies? As soon as they play any real NBA minutes and have some of their flaws exposed, you will probably turn on them too. Not every young player on our team has to be "special". Alex Len has proven with minutes that he can be a serviceable starting center. He is also 23 with plenty of upside. There is no reason why he can not be our long term answer at the 5.
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Re: Game 47: Suns (15-31) vs Nuggets (20-25) 

Post#131 » by Fo-Real » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:37 pm

Scutt wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:It's idiotic of you to think they aren't already playing enough minutes to get better and just aren't. Get off your imaginary high horse with this dumb ****. This record is what playing better players than either of those two dudes is right, playing them more minutes means more losses and possibly breaking the spirits of truly talented young guys like Bender, Chriss and Ulis, atleast Chandler and Tucker are excellent examples for them of how to be a real Pro, compete at your max and consistency. The last time Warren was relevant in a game this year Archie **** Goodwin led us in scoring. Both Len and Warren lack hunger to compete, and neither is talented enough to overcome that deficit. Clueless is a term you should consider yourself. I'm not saying they are consistently absolutely terrible, just not gonna be the reason we win a damn thing. If you can get value for them, what each brings is replaceable. I have more hope for Len than I do for Warren, atleast he is a 7 footer who can move, neither has special written on them, take your rose colored glasses off. Year after year Warren has never been able to TAKE (TAKE BEING THE OPTIMUM WORD), the job from Tucker, it has always been we should just give it to him because, **** outplay him and TAKE the job and you get respect, HE CAN'T. Len might never be better than Tyson, even at his advanced age, I'm fine with him as a backup. Even if we traded Chandler, we would need to find STARTING CENTER! These two sho7ld not be untouchable in a deal that could help, that is all.


:lol: :lol: Thanks for exposing yourself as a casual fan who doesn't even watch games. The Suns cut Goodwin before the season started and up until his mysterious head injury, Warren was averaging 20 points a game on good efficiency at the beginning of this season. Do you remember how bad Tucker was playing at the beginning of the season? Oh wait, you do not actually watch Suns games and players, just complain about them.

Why don't you take off your rose colored glasses for our rookies? As soon as they play any real NBA minutes and have some of their flaws exposed, you will probably turn on them too. Not every young player on our team has to be "special". Alex Len has proven with minutes that he can be a serviceable starting center. He is also 23 with plenty of upside. There is no reason why he can not be our long term answer at the 5.


Watch every second of every game, and yes, that's how long it's been since Tj made a difference lol. It matters how tj is playing now since being healthy. TJ is healthy, stop making excused for him. Alex isn't starter quality right now, if he was he would shine in the minutes he gets, so would Tj. TJ is a volume scorer who does not get enough shots to make a difference in any game. If your whole premises or argument is that I don't watch games you are outside of your narrow mind.

Can Len and Tj be role players and outside of our focus.... yes. But if they were what people make them out to be then they should be the focal point of the offense when Bled and Book are on the bench and should shine....THEY DON'T. Hence not vital to our future success, NEITHER SHOULD BE EXEMPT TO A MEANINGFUL TRADE. Unbunch your panties, players come and go.

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