Sophomore Impressions 2016-17

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Re: RE: Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#401 » by McNuggets » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:40 am

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Mr Puddles wrote:Booker has been amazing lately, 31 ppg, 55% FG, 60 % 3PG (on attempts) over the last 5 games.

People were overreacting on him at the start of the season. Booker is the 13th youngest player to play in the NBA this year - younger than a lot of guys who were drafted this year under the label 'high-upside players' like Jaylen Brown and Cheick Diallo. Meanwhile he was thrust into becoming the team's go-to guy on offense whilst starting the season with a foot injury. Of course there is going to be an adjustment period for him where he grows more comfortable with his role, discovers his shot selection etc.

My take on Booker has been that he's not going to be a superstar, but that his ceiling is going to be a legit number 2 option. Having watched him play every game this season, that opinion remains unchanged.

Fun Booker fact: as of right this week he holds the record for most points ever scored in a quarter by a player who is not legally allowed to drink yet (29 in the 4th, against Dallas)


Who said Chieck Diallo was a high upside pick?


I believe it was the writers at Horse 'n Hound magazine.

The point was more that Booker is younger than -or practically the same age as - a lot of players who were drafted this past summer moreso based on upside rather than actual production... Just to put his current production somewhat into perspective about what's realistic to expect at this point.

What does it say about someone who quotes a chick flick in a Sports Forum. LMAO of course what does it say about me that I understood the reference. LOL

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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#402 » by RaptorsLife » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:24 am

Since Demar Derozan ankle injury in 3 games
Norman Powell Starting
34 MINS
20.5 pts
4.5 rebs
2 asts
1.5 steals
46% shooting

the starting sg on the other team combined are 10-29... 28% lock down defense

If learns to finish around the rim constantly he will be star easily. 46th pick
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#403 » by Klomp » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:49 am

How many games before these Timberwolves players recorded their 13th career 30-point game?

Kevin Garnett............328 games
Kevin Love................247 games
Karl-Anthony Towns......129 games



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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#404 » by Merc_Porto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:57 pm

KAT Last 10 games:

28.8 ppg
12.8 rpg
3.2 apg
2.0 bpg
1.1 spg

62.0 FG%

Timberwolves are 7-3
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#405 » by The_Hater » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:11 pm

mercgold3 wrote:KAT Last 10 games:

28.8 ppg
12.8 rpg
3.2 apg
2.0 bpg
1.1 spg

62.0 FG%

Timberwolves are 7-3


That's impressive. He's a stud.

How's his defense been?
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#406 » by wablty » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:32 pm

The_Hater wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:KAT Last 10 games:

28.8 ppg
12.8 rpg
3.2 apg
2.0 bpg
1.1 spg

62.0 FG%

Timberwolves are 7-3


That's impressive. He's a stud.

How's his defense been?


Okayish. There's still plenty to work on, but since around mid December he and the team as a whole have been playing a bit better. Since they won in Chicago in Dec., the Wolves have a winning record and a top 10 defense and a fair amount of that has to do with him. Not Gobert, but not bad. Dieng is getting most of the difficult assignments though.
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#407 » by Klomp » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:01 pm

Being able to score from a number of different places and in a number of different ways isn’t new. Saturday here’s how it broke down: Towns hit a pair of 18-foot jump shots, a short-range jumper, had five layups or put-backs, two three-pointers, an alley-oop dunk, a straight-up dunk and three hooks.

The third of those hooks, a turnaround late in a third-quarter Wolves run, was lefthanded. Towns said he has had the lefthanded hook in his arsenal for a while. But fans are seeing it more now.

“It’s something I’ve worked on a lot in my career,’’ he said. “I’ve always found a way not to use it. I only use it when I need to. If the defense is giving me that shot, that’s when I’m going to take it. Recently the defense has been trying to take away my right-hand hooks. So I’m taking what the defense is giving me going to the middle. It’s something I have in my back pocket when I need it.”

For a second-year player, Towns, who can also put the ball on the floor and drive, his offensive options are varied.

“He has so many different ways he can score,’’ Wolves coach Tom Thibodeau said. “He’s seeing a lot of different double-teams. He sees different defenders throughout the game. It’s like having a tool box. What are you going to use? He’s got the right jump hook, the left jump hook. He has the three. He can put it on the floor, he has the hesitation, he’s got a crossover. He has a lot of weapons, and it’s good.’’


http://www.startribune.com/wolves-karl-anthony-towns-adding-lefty-hook-to-his-scoring-arsenal/412108303/
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Re: Who Has Bigger Sophomore Year? 

Post#408 » by daschysta » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:08 am

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Its a toss up rite now between kat and kp.


Really now? By most metrics Myles Turner is having a better year thing Porzingas.

He's way more efficient, rebounds better, blocks shots better, is a better defender and on a better team.

15.9/7.5/ 2.3 blocks on (.612 TS) 54/41/80 shooting in 30 mpg > 18.6/7/ 2 bpg on (.554 TS) 45/38/80 in 33 mpg.

Myles has a higher PER higher, win shares and better splits on a better team than Porzingas. Statistically at least all zinger has on Myles is that he shoots 5 more times a game to score less than 3 points more per game.
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Re: Who Has Bigger Sophomore Year? 

Post#409 » by Klomp » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:15 am

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Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Its a toss up rite now between kat and kp.

Really now? By most metrics Myles Turner is having a better year thing Porzingas.

Did you happen to look at the date that post was made?

(Hint: it was Nov. 27)
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#410 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:56 am

Hoopshype just did an interview with Turner, its a pretty good read.

http://hoopshype.com/2017/01/30/myles-turner-discusses-long-term-goals-advice-from-paul-george-quitting-football-and-more/

Some quotes:

Turner is filling the stat sheet – averaging 15.8 points, 7.4 rebounds and 2.2 blocks (the third-most in the NBA behind only Rudy Gobert and Anthony Davis) – while shooting 54 percent from the field, 41.1 percent from three-point range and 80.6 percent from the free-throw line. To put this into perspective, consider these numbers:

Over the last decade, only three under-21 players have averaged at least 15.5 points, 7.5 rebounds and two blocks while shooting 50 percent from the field: Chris Webber, Shaquille O’Neal and Davis. Turner is on pace to join that group. Out of those players, Turner easily has the best three-point shooting percentage (shooting 40.6 percent, next-best was Davis at 22.2 percent) as well as the best free-throw shooting percentage (80.7 percent).
In his career, Turner has blocked 100 shots and knocked down 28 three-pointers. This season, he is the only player in the league with at least 100 blocks and 25 threes. He has a chance to become just the third player in NBA history to record 200 blocks and 50 three-pointers in the same season (the others were Raef LaFrentz and Andrei Kirilenko).
Turner is one of just eight players in NBA history to record 1,200 points, 650 rebounds and a 50 percent field goal percentage before turning 21, joining Webber, O’Neal, Davis, Dwight Howard, Thaddeus Young, Andre Drummond and Karl-Anthony Towns. Turner is the first player to reach these marks while also shooting above 35 percent from three-point range (his career percentage is 36.9 percent).
In other words, Turner is incredibly productive for his age and has an extremely unique skill set that allows him to impact games in a ton of different ways. He’s exactly what today’s executives and coaches want in a big man since he protects the rim, shoots out to three-point range, scores in the paint and cleans the glass.


Every time we talk, I’m struck by how mature you are. Have you always been mature for your age, or did that happen because you realized you had to grow up quickly and be mature in order to achieve your dream of playing in the NBA?

MT: I’d say it was a little bit of both. But it’s always been part of my personality, and it definitely has to do with how I was raised. My parents raised me to always shake hands, say ‘yes sir’ and ‘no sir,’ hold the door open for people, make eye contact when you’re having a conversation, just the little stuff like that. That never got away from me. Growing up, I’d see a lot of my peers goofing off or on their phones when we’re in meetings or when we had to meet important people; I’ve never been that kind of guy and I always wanted to leave a lasting impression. There’s ways of overdoing it, of course. I just always tried to do the little things. Whenever I did interviews, I wanted to make sure that I thoroughly answered questions and not mumble and things like that. My parents are huge when it comes to that, and I’m representing my family. After basketball, or even during basketball, I want to be a businessman. I want to be an ambassador in my neighborhood and other communities that I take on. I need to be able to speak well and represent my family in the best way possible.


What are your long-term goals? You’re young and the sky is the limit; what do you hope to accomplish throughout the course of your career?

MT: The biggest thing for me is championships. I definitely want to be on a championship team, multiple championship teams. I want to be a guy who is remembered as a glue guy, a great teammate. Anybody can be the scorer or the rebounder or this guy or that guy – I want to be the glue guy who brings everyone together to win a championship. I want that on my resume. Going back to the All-Star question, I want to make multiple All-Star teams. I want to be one of the top-tier big men, or players [overall], in the league. I really want to get a lot of Community Assist Awards too. That’s something that I started doing and I kind of have my sights set on that. Obviously, it’s not for the award, but I think that’s a really cool one to have and it’s something that I take seriously. I’ve always taken that seriously, even back in high school doing in community service and helping around the neighborhood. Now, I have my W.A.R.M. (We All Really Matter) Initiative and I’d like to be remembered for stuff like that too.
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

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During that 16-game streak Booker is averaging 26.6 pts on .593 TS%.
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#414 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:01 am

Another great sophomore big man battle between Towns and Jokic tonight
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#415 » by mcmurphy » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:35 am

Klomp wrote:Another great sophomore big man battle between Towns and Jokic tonight


Yesss, clearly the two best young big of the league (with Embiid).
I am somewhat concerned about the overuse of towns made by Thibs... 38+ mpg every day is not a good thing for a 7 feet 21 years old big kid.

In the last 30 years only Shaq has played so much within 21 years old as 7feet man.
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#416 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:15 pm

It's funny, because last year many Wolves fans were complaining because Sam Mitchell didn't play Towns enough minutes early in the season (30 mpg before all-star break). Now he's averaging 36 mpg and some Wolves fans are outraged at Tom Thibodeau for running his players into the ground.
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#417 » by Avihs7 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:21 pm

Klomp wrote:It's funny, because last year many Wolves fans were complaining because Sam Mitchell didn't play Towns enough minutes early in the season (30 mpg before all-star break). Now he's averaging 36 mpg and some Wolves fans are outraged at Tom Thibodeau for running his players into the ground.

As a wolves fan I'm not one of those u speak of all I have to do is just glance at the minutes players got 10 years ago with no injuries. For example Iverson Averaged 40 mpg for his career. I also don't put Lavines injury on Thibs for this exact reason.
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#418 » by mcmurphy » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:15 pm

Avihs7 wrote:
Klomp wrote:It's funny, because last year many Wolves fans were complaining because Sam Mitchell didn't play Towns enough minutes early in the season (30 mpg before all-star break). Now he's averaging 36 mpg and some Wolves fans are outraged at Tom Thibodeau for running his players into the ground.

As a wolves fan I'm not one of those u speak of all I have to do is just glance at the minutes players got 10 years ago with no injuries. For example Iverson Averaged 40 mpg for his career. I also don't put Lavines injury on Thibs for this exact reason.


Iverson was 6-0 165 lb, Towns 7-0 245lb... Big differences
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#419 » by Winsome Gerbil » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:33 pm

Been liking what I've seen of Willie Cauley-Stein of late. Looked awful to start the season, but now I'm beginning to think he might end up as the most useful of the second tier/roleplayer bigs from that draft (guys like Portis, Lyles, Kaminsky).

Like Sam Dekker too. Not sure what his future is, and I can see him as a guy who just disappears unless he becomes a better shooter, but he just sticks his nose in there.
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Re: Sophomore Impressions 2016-17 

Post#420 » by Avihs7 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:40 pm

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Klomp wrote:It's funny, because last year many Wolves fans were complaining because Sam Mitchell didn't play Towns enough minutes early in the season (30 mpg before all-star break). Now he's averaging 36 mpg and some Wolves fans are outraged at Tom Thibodeau for running his players into the ground.

As a wolves fan I'm not one of those u speak of all I have to do is just glance at the minutes players got 10 years ago with no injuries. For example Iverson Averaged 40 mpg for his career. I also don't put Lavines injury on Thibs for this exact reason.


Iverson was 6-0 165 lb, Towns 7-0 245lb... Big differences

Hakeem olajuwan Averaged about 37mpg for about 15 years and he was 7-0 255lb

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