1/31 | G49: Oklahoma City Thunder at San Antonio Spurs | 7:30PM CST

[Andre Roberstan]

And I'm saying, it's going to take us some time to rebuild. We've made a couple of trades already this season. We'll make a couple more. Ilya would help this year, but Grant's better down the road.

This is going to take time. And watching it is going to suck at points.

What's his plan though? And I know that big parts of this are also on Billy, but still - what's the plan? We are the worst shooting team in the league. That much was clear from the get go. What are we doing to become better? What are Huestis, Christon and Singler still doing on this team? Why aren't we giving Hollis Thompson a 10-day contract and see what he can do? Why aren't we bringing up Dakari and see what he can do in the NBA? If this is part of a 'hybrid rebuild', we should actually rebuild and not just sit around and watch us brick 3 after 3.

We're finding that out as we go.

Huestis/Singler/Christon are there because nobody's taking Singler's contract for free and they needed a 3rd PG. They don't have a spot for Dakari right now, and he's not shooting 3s either. To become better they're letting a few young guys work out kinks (Domas, VO, Adams, Kanter) and working some smaller deals until something opens up.

It will take time. You don't lose Durant and become a better team, and right now this team is 100 percent where we all thought they'd be.

I'd also be shocked if Dakari's not on the roster to start next season. Hamilton too. Letting him get experience in the D-League a little more isn't a bad thing, especially since you're not starting the clock on his rookie contract in the middle of the season.

[Pillendreher]

It will take time. You don't lose Durant and become a better team, and right now this team is 100 percent where we all thought they'd be.

This was something everybody saw a mile away tho. Shooting being a problem wasn't unexpected. What did he do to help the team in that regard besides trading away a proven 3pt shooter?

[bondom34]

It will take time. You don't lose Durant and become a better team, and right now this team is 100 percent where we all thought they'd be.

This was something everybody saw a mile away tho. Shooting being a problem wasn't unexpected. What did he do to help the team in that regard besides trading away a proven 3pt shooter?

What is your plan. Exact trades. Go.

Also, realize if Ersan stayed Domas wouldn't be getting this time to develop. So next year you either keep Ersan or you've got essentially rookie Sabonis playing heavy minutes with no prior development.

Also realize Ersan wasn't fitting the same as he does in Philly.

[ThunderBolt]

It will take time. You don't lose Durant and become a better team, and right now this team is 100 percent where we all thought they'd be.

This was something everybody saw a mile away tho. Shooting being a problem wasn't unexpected. What did he do to help the team in that regard besides trading away a proven 3pt shooter?

What is your plan. Exact trades. Go.

Also, realize if Ersan stayed Domas wouldn't be getting this time to develop. So next year you either keep Ersan or you've got essentially rookie Sabonis playing heavy minutes with no prior development.

Also realize Ersan wasn't fitting the same as he does in Philly.

Is Ersan not fitting here an indictment of our style? I think you could make an argument questioning Presti's desired style of play.

[bondom34]

This was something everybody saw a mile away tho. Shooting being a problem wasn't unexpected. What did he do to help the team in that regard besides trading away a proven 3pt shooter?

What is your plan. Exact trades. Go.

Also, realize if Ersan stayed Domas wouldn't be getting this time to develop. So next year you either keep Ersan or you've got essentially rookie Sabonis playing heavy minutes with no prior development.

Also realize Ersan wasn't fitting the same as he does in Philly.

Is Ersan not fitting here an indictment of our style? I think you could make an argument questioning Presti's desired style of play.

They wanted a defensive minded passing PF. And you could have kept him but when he was gone would it be better to watch Sabonis be a rookie next year or get it done now while you know you're not contending anyway?

This year was a punt the entire time, it had no hope of contending, the point is growth from the young guys. Most said that to start the season and literally every time they lose 2 straight people freak out.


The entire OKC fanbase needs to calm down, it's been spoiled for 8 years and now can't handle being a good not great team. Imagine if you were a truly mediocre team with a bunch of old guys and were stuck that way for 5-10 years. Imagine if you were a Bucks fan the last 10 years, or Magic, or Wolves, or Suns etc.

This is and has always been a bridge year.

[spearsy23]

In that case there's almost no such thing as a non 1 star team.

Wall has Beal.

Thomas has Horford and the entire Cs roster.
Lowry/DD
Lillard/CJ
KAT/Wiggins/Lavine/Rubio
Giannis/Parker
Millsap/depth


Most of that list isn't a 1 star team any more than the Clippers or GSW are.

That's not what anyone means when they talk about "1-star teams".

Oh just stop being deliberately stupid. You know damn well what I'm talking about.

What Andre said. You don't build an entire team in 6 months after losing Kevin Durant. You just don't. This whole roster was formulated around an MVP caliber slick shooting SF. He left.

And nobody calls those teams 1 star either.

If we had built an entire team while we had durant then none of this would be an issue. Have you guys not noticed that the bench has sucked for the last three years and gotten progressively worse? Our bench would actually be better if we still had pj3 and lamb, that's how terrible it's been.

[bondom34]

Oh just stop being deliberately stupid. You know damn well what I'm talking about.

What Andre said. You don't build an entire team in 6 months after losing Kevin Durant. You just don't. This whole roster was formulated around an MVP caliber slick shooting SF. He left.

And nobody calls those teams 1 star either.

If we had built an entire team while we had durant then none of this would be an issue. Have you guys not noticed that the bench has sucked for the last three years and gotten progressively worse? Our bench would actually be better if we still had pj3 and lamb, that's how terrible it's been.

The bench sadly wasn't why the playoffs happened last year. Durant himself sucking was why they lost.

[spearsy23]

It will take time. You don't lose Durant and become a better team, and right now this team is 100 percent where we all thought they'd be.

This was something everybody saw a mile away tho. Shooting being a problem wasn't unexpected. What did he do to help the team in that regard besides trading away a proven 3pt shooter?

What is your plan. Exact trades. Go.

Also, realize if Ersan stayed Domas wouldn't be getting this time to develop. So next year you either keep Ersan or you've got essentially rookie Sabonis playing heavy minutes with no prior development.

Also realize Ersan wasn't fitting the same as he does in Philly.

Ersan played two games, saying he wasn't fitting is really reaching. And having domantas in a backup role this year would've been a good thing. He's clearly not a + as a starter yet.

Exact plan:
Keep ily
Trade pick that went to Philly for korver
Sign chalmers/ hinrich/Cole whichever performs best in a tryout.

Starters
Russ/korver/dre/ily/Adams

Bench
Cole/vic/abrines/Sabonis/kanter

That almost looks like a competent team with realistic moves and I didn't even trade cam or kanter.

[spearsy23]

What Andre said. You don't build an entire team in 6 months after losing Kevin Durant. You just don't. This whole roster was formulated around an MVP caliber slick shooting SF. He left.

And nobody calls those teams 1 star either.

If we had built an entire team while we had durant then none of this would be an issue. Have you guys not noticed that the bench has sucked for the last three years and gotten progressively worse? Our bench would actually be better if we still had pj3 and lamb, that's how terrible it's been.

The bench sadly wasn't why the playoffs happened last year. Durant himself sucking was why they lost.

That doesn't matter. If presti had built a competent bench then it would still be here.

[bondom34]

If we had built an entire team while we had durant then none of this would be an issue. Have you guys not noticed that the bench has sucked for the last three years and gotten progressively worse? Our bench would actually be better if we still had pj3 and lamb, that's how terrible it's been.

The bench sadly wasn't why the playoffs happened last year. Durant himself sucking was why they lost.

That doesn't matter. If presti had built a competent bench then it would still be here.

The bench is what most NBA benches are. Inconsistent. It needs a PG, but outside of that Abrines looks solid, Kanter is a well above average backup big, and then its a bunch of dudes. That's what benches are.


PS and this is for anyone interested, if you have GB strikes you can PM Howard, it's in Mass Dispatch if you'd like.

[spearsy23]

The bench sadly wasn't why the playoffs happened last year. Durant himself sucking was why they lost.

That doesn't matter. If presti had built a competent bench then it would still be here.

The bench is what most NBA benches are. Inconsistent. It needs a PG, but outside of that Abrines looks solid, Kanter is a well above average backup big, and then its a bunch of dudes. That's what benches are.


PS and this is for anyone interested, if you have GB strikes you can PM Howard, it's in Mass Dispatch if you'd like.

The bench is inconsistent like Dion is inconsistent. It's consistently terrible with occasional flashes of brilliance. Besides Kanter and Abrines nobody else on the bench brings anything of value to the court.

[bondom34]

That doesn't matter. If presti had built a competent bench then it would still be here.

The bench is what most NBA benches are. Inconsistent. It needs a PG, but outside of that Abrines looks solid, Kanter is a well above average backup big, and then its a bunch of dudes. That's what benches are.


PS and this is for anyone interested, if you have GB strikes you can PM Howard, it's in Mass Dispatch if you'd like.

The bench is inconsistent like Dion is inconsistent. It's consistently terrible with occasional flashes of brilliance. Besides Kanter and Abrines nobody else on the bench brings anything of value to the court.

Which, for most teams, is about how many decent bench contributors you get. Deep benches are the exception, not the rule.

[OkcMagic]

This was something everybody saw a mile away tho. Shooting being a problem wasn't unexpected. What did he do to help the team in that regard besides trading away a proven 3pt shooter?

What is your plan. Exact trades. Go.

Also, realize if Ersan stayed Domas wouldn't be getting this time to develop. So next year you either keep Ersan or you've got essentially rookie Sabonis playing heavy minutes with no prior development.

Also realize Ersan wasn't fitting the same as he does in Philly.

Ersan played two games, saying he wasn't fitting is really reaching. And having domantas in a backup role this year would've been a good thing. He's clearly not a + as a starter yet.

Exact plan:
Keep ily
Trade pick that went to Philly for korver
Sign chalmers/ hinrich/Cole whichever performs best in a tryout.

Starters
Russ/korver/dre/ily/Adams

Bench
Cole/vic/abrines/Sabonis/kanter

That almost looks like a competent team with realistic moves and I didn't even trade cam or kanter.

For what though? That team is not contending... You're not letting Payne develop because you got Cole, you don't have grant who is young and you can mold into a player.

You seem to want to sign or keep a bunch of middle of the road players and for what? A first round exit? I rather have the team we have now and make the first round exit and not the team you proposing


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[bondom34]

^^^

Yep

I didn't see your reply spearsy,but thats it.

[spearsy23]

What is your plan. Exact trades. Go.

Also, realize if Ersan stayed Domas wouldn't be getting this time to develop. So next year you either keep Ersan or you've got essentially rookie Sabonis playing heavy minutes with no prior development.

Also realize Ersan wasn't fitting the same as he does in Philly.

Ersan played two games, saying he wasn't fitting is really reaching. And having domantas in a backup role this year would've been a good thing. He's clearly not a + as a starter yet.

Exact plan:
Keep ily
Trade pick that went to Philly for korver
Sign chalmers/ hinrich/Cole whichever performs best in a tryout.

Starters
Russ/korver/dre/ily/Adams

Bench
Cole/vic/abrines/Sabonis/kanter

That almost looks like a competent team with realistic moves and I didn't even trade cam or kanter.

For what though? That team is not contending... You're not letting Payne develop because you got Cole, you don't have grant who is young and you can mold into a player.

You seem to want to sign or keep a bunch of middle of the road players and for what? A first round exit? I rather have the team we have now and make the first round exit and not the team you proposing


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That team around Russ is a lock for the second round and has an outside shot at the conference finals.

Does Payne look like he's developing? It would be better for him and us if he was playing on the blue right now. Maybe he gets in shape and then you can play him over Cole. And grant isn't a good basketball player, threes nothing about him that it's going to ever raise this team's ceiling. Maybe one day he's a solid bench player, that's not a guy you sacrifice wins to develop.

Letting a bunch of mediocre prospects have playing time just because they are young does not mean we have high upside.