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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#521 » by Matches Malone » Fri Feb 3, 2017 2:58 am

GoldenAntlers wrote:This is an excellent plan. I'm at the point where I'm okay if Monroe opts in one more year.

If all that were to happen, who would be the free agents we could suddenly afford?


Chris Paul, Kyle Lowry... lol jk

Realistically and depending what we do in the draft:

Patty Mills
Amir Johnson
PJ Tucker
Tyreke Evans
Nerlens Noel (Restricted)
George Hill
Jrue Holiday
Kyle Korver
Langston Galloway

I didn't really look into the restricted guys besides Noel. I think any of the good RFA will get matched.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#522 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:01 am

Either Henson or Moose is not on this roster in three weeks. One of them is going after today.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#523 » by xTitan » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:02 am

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Prince12 wrote:Is hawes even likely to opt in. I mean with the money getting tossed around is he really wanted to opt in for 6 mill? So if he decides no is that 33 mill free space. Geez. Make it happen.


Would be nice. In a perfect world I'd like to see

Henson traded for expiring
Monroe Opts out
Hawes Opts out
Mirza trade for expiring
Delly trade for expiring
let all current expiring deals expire

Go into the offseason with Brogdon, Middleton, Maker, Parker, Giannis, Vaughn. Pick in the top 10.

Resign Snell to a reasonable deal and then get some actual productive free agents!

But that's a lot to ask from our front office.


Lmao, you are looking to win in 2021? Please more 19 year olds, nothing says building a contender like a team full of kids who have no clue how to win in the NBA teaching each other how to fail. Plus Giannis would be gone after all these years of losing and they would lose big time.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#524 » by DanoMac » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:03 am

I'm sure it's been posted, but Hawes will forever be a legend for single handedly beating us on the Sixers in our tank year. I've never cheered so much for an opposing team's field goal
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#525 » by xTitan » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:03 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Either Henson or Moose is not on this roster in three weeks. One of them is going after today.


I believe it will be Henson, guessing his act has worn very thin with the organization.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#526 » by Matches Malone » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:05 am

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Prince12 wrote:Is hawes even likely to opt in. I mean with the money getting tossed around is he really wanted to opt in for 6 mill? So if he decides no is that 33 mill free space. Geez. Make it happen.


Would be nice. In a perfect world I'd like to see

Henson traded for expiring
Monroe Opts out
Hawes Opts out
Mirza trade for expiring
Delly trade for expiring
let all current expiring deals expire

Go into the offseason with Brogdon, Middleton, Maker, Parker, Giannis, Vaughn. Pick in the top 10.

Resign Snell to a reasonable deal and then get some actual productive free agents!

But that's a lot to ask from our front office.


Lmao, you are looking to win in 2021? Please more 19 year olds, nothing says building a contender like a team full of kids who have no clue how to win in the NBA teaching each other how to fail. Plus Giannis would be gone after all these years of losing and they would lose big time.


I said get some productive free agents in my plan. That's likely going to be guys with experience. Furthermore, in a subsequent post, I had a list of players that are nowhere near 19 years of age.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#527 » by randy84 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:07 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Either Henson or Moose is not on this roster in three weeks. One of them is going after today.


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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#528 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:09 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Either Henson or Moose is not on this roster in three weeks. One of them is going after today.


I believe it will be Henson, guessing his act has worn very thin with the organization.


Trading Henson makes sense from a financial point of view. Then if Monroe opts in, it won't be that big a deal financially since he's only got one more year left. Actually would prefer that scenario. But if Monroe also opts out then the Bucks would hold the Bird rights to Hibbert and Hawes (should he opt out). So we'd have some bodies at center.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#529 » by BucksFanSD » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:14 am

I want Henson and Monroe off this team. Henson is a bench bum and Monroe and Middleton don't pair well. Do we have a '17 free agent thread brewing?
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Post#530 » by drone3 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:14 am

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xTitan wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Either Henson or Moose is not on this roster in three weeks. One of them is going after today.


I believe it will be Henson, guessing his act has worn very thin with the organization.


Trading Henson makes sense from a financial point of view. Then if Monroe opts in, it won't be that big a deal financially since he's only got one more year left. Actually would prefer that scenario. But if Monroe also opts out then the Bucks would hold the Bird rights to Hibbert and Hawes (should he opt out). So we'd have some bodies at center.

Thon makes Henson obsolete. It has to be henson being moved. Just thinking about it, Thon is much better than henson despite hardly any minutes.
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Post#531 » by drone3 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:16 am

Mags FTW wrote:This, like... still happened right? Just making sure.

We just got out of one of the worst contracts in the league. Easily top 3 worst, along with Noah and Parsons.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#532 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:19 am

Henson most likely but I doubt we'd be lucky enough to do a complete salary dump like we just did with Plumlord
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#533 » by raferfenix » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:20 am

I'm petrified we are just going to give Snell the money we gave Plumlee.

What is the best deal we could get for Henson + Snell?
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#534 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:20 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Henson most likely but I doubt we'd be lucky enough to do a complete salary dump like we just did with Plumlord

Really? I think Henson has more value than Plumlee.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#536 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:23 am

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Prince12 wrote:Is hawes even likely to opt in. I mean with the money getting tossed around is he really wanted to opt in for 6 mill? So if he decides no is that 33 mill free space. Geez. Make it happen.


Would be nice. In a perfect world I'd like to see

Henson traded for expiring
Monroe Opts out
Hawes Opts out
Mirza trade for expiring
Delly trade for expiring
let all current expiring deals expire

Go into the offseason with Brogdon, Middleton, Maker, Parker, Giannis, Vaughn. Pick in the top 10.

Resign Snell to a reasonable deal and then get some actual productive free agents!

But that's a lot to ask from our front office.


Lmao, you are looking to win in 2021? Please more 19 year olds, nothing says building a contender like a team full of kids who have no clue how to win in the NBA teaching each other how to fail. Plus Giannis would be gone after all these years of losing and they would lose big time.

I feel like this exact quote was said last offseason when people advocated doing "nothing". Hmmm.
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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#537 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:23 am

Henson will bring back positive trade value. We might just not like the value they settle on (i.e. like Wes Matthews or something like that)
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Post#538 » by cinematographer » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:26 am

Henson has considerably more value than Plumlee but it may make sense just to grab expirings.
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Post#539 » by Wisky4life » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:27 am

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Re: Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert 

Post#540 » by VooDoo7 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 3:28 am

raferfenix wrote:I'm petrified we are just going to give Snell the money we gave Plumlee.

Or...Greivis Vasquez is a FA.

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