Bucks Trade Miles Plumlee For Roy Hibbert & Spencer Hawes

[The_Hater]

Does MJ control all the day to day transactions or is Cho allowed to do his job? People always seem to mention MJ when Charlotte does anything so what's the situation?

Rich Cho is clearly the basketball operations person, but because Jordan is who he is, people continue to blame him. It's asinine.

While Cho is clearly the man on the front lines, doesn't MJ have final say on all decisions?

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Does MJ control all the day to day transactions or is Cho allowed to do his job? People always seem to mention MJ when Charlotte does anything so what's the situation?

Rich Cho is clearly the basketball operations person, but because Jordan is who he is, people continue to blame him. It's asinine.

While Cho is clearly the man on the front lines, doesn't MJ have final say on all decisions?

Just like every other owner....

[The_Hater]

Rich Cho is clearly the basketball operations person, but because Jordan is who he is, people continue to blame him. It's asinine.

While Cho is clearly the man on the front lines, doesn't MJ have final say on all decisions?

Just like every other owner....

Well not exactly. Most teams have one person, owner, president or otherwise, who has final say on all basketball related decisions. Some teams (Toronto) have a board which would have to approve all major decisions. There are multiple owners in Charlotte but I've always been under the impression that MJ had the final say. But I could be wrong.

[tcheco]

Hammond is like a cockroach.... Nuclear war could wipe out human existence and the only one to survive would be Hammond.

This is Hammond's 9th season as general manager. In those 9 seasons the Bucks have been over .500 once. They are currently on a 7 season streak of finishing below .500 that probably won't be broken this year.

In the span of 2 year they have traded a first for Greivis Vasquez; took Michael Carter Williams over the Lakers pick this year; traded Zaza, Ersan, and Dudley for nothing; and signed Henson, Monroe, Plumlee, Mirza, and Deledova to a total of $215 million worth of contracts.

Oh and he also was telling everyone that our 23 year old draft pick was 19. That was my favorite part. They couldn't figure out with all their resources what it took a message board a half of a day to crack. This is our front office.

God, I'm so sorry for you guys. Loved the bucks with healthy Bogut(before that elbow injury) he was a beast, but the rest of the roster was so terribly constructed...

The weird thing is a year and a half prior to that he drafted Giannis 15, traded Jennings for Middleton and Knight, and didn't **** up the Parker pick.

In his 9 year stretch he had one phenomenal 12 month stretch so we have a decent core with Giannis, Middleton, and Jabari. The problem is Hammond doesn't know how to build a team around those 3.

Basketball is weird

To think tha SVG made the Middleton trade(I believe he's actually is involved in trades) and most people see him as a great talent evaluator

[tcheco]

Hammond is like a cockroach.... Nuclear war could wipe out human existence and the only one to survive would be Hammond.

This is Hammond's 9th season as general manager. In those 9 seasons the Bucks have been over .500 once. They are currently on a 7 season streak of finishing below .500 that probably won't be broken this year.

In the span of 2 year they have traded a first for Greivis Vasquez; took Michael Carter Williams over the Lakers pick this year; traded Zaza, Ersan, and Dudley for nothing; and signed Henson, Monroe, Plumlee, Mirza, and Deledova to a total of $215 million worth of contracts.

Oh and he also was telling everyone that our 23 year old draft pick was 19. That was my favorite part. They couldn't figure out with all their resources what it took a message board a half of a day to crack. This is our front office.

God, I'm so sorry for you guys. Loved the bucks with healthy Bogut(before that elbow injury) he was a beast, but the rest of the roster was so terribly constructed...

Terribly constructed roster you say? The more things change...

So, I'm I wrong? my memory could have fooled me. but redd was barely playing, Luke ridnour was getting 20 minutes per game, Jennings was the best player around, with delfino and Ersan(who i always liked)

[Chuck Everett]

God, I'm so sorry for you guys. Loved the bucks with healthy Bogut(before that elbow injury) he was a beast, but the rest of the roster was so terribly constructed...

The weird thing is a year and a half prior to that he drafted Giannis 15, traded Jennings for Middleton and Knight, and didn't **** up the Parker pick.

In his 9 year stretch he had one phenomenal 12 month stretch so we have a decent core with Giannis, Middleton, and Jabari. The problem is Hammond doesn't know how to build a team around those 3.

Basketball is weird

To think tha SVG made the Middleton trade(I believe he's actually is involved in trades) and most people see him as a great talent evaluator

Joe Dumars made the Middleton & Knight for Jennings trade, not Van Gundy. This is only Van Gundy's third season with the organization. Middleton was traded the year before Stan arrived.

[tcheco]

The weird thing is a year and a half prior to that he drafted Giannis 15, traded Jennings for Middleton and Knight, and didn't **** up the Parker pick.

In his 9 year stretch he had one phenomenal 12 month stretch so we have a decent core with Giannis, Middleton, and Jabari. The problem is Hammond doesn't know how to build a team around those 3.

Basketball is weird

To think tha SVG made the Middleton trade(I believe he's actually is involved in trades) and most people see him as a great talent evaluator

Joe Dumars made the Middleton & Knight for Jennings trade, not Van Gundy. This is only Van Gundy's third season with the organization. Middleton was traded the year before Stan arrived.

My bad!

[Magic_Johnny12]

he was born 28 years ago

I giggled

[fatlever]

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/what-charlotte-hornets-see-in-miles-plumlee-020317?cmpid=feed:-sports-CQ-RSS-Feed

A good article that at least explains this trade for the Hornets perspective, at least from a strictly on court, basketball standpoint.

[Perishable517]

in other words, bucks wasted 13 million dollars.

In other words they made a mistake and corrected said mistake to the best of their abilities. How unreasonable.

I'd argue they made a huge mistake and pulled a rabbit out of their hat making someone else pay for that mistake w/o giving up a pick.

That would be fair.

[3Diamantidis]

Anyone intrested in Henson too?
He can block shots.
And he gets in the zone every once in 10 games.
11mil contract for a pick(2nd i don't care)
Bucks have now 5 centers, instead of 4?

[Jez2983]

God, I'm so sorry for you guys. Loved the bucks with healthy Bogut(before that elbow injury) he was a beast, but the rest of the roster was so terribly constructed...

Terribly constructed roster you say? The more things change...

So, I'm I wrong? my memory could have fooled me. but redd was barely playing, Luke ridnour was getting 20 minutes per game, Jennings was the best player around, with delfino and Ersan(who i always liked)

Have you never heard of the quote 'the more things change, the more they stay the same'?

I was meaning we still had a terribly constructed roster and was not disagreeing with you at all. Sorry, I thought what I wrote was pretty clear...

[Optimus_Steel]

One of those see we are trying trades that does nothing. There is no point to this trade. A trade just to do a trade.

[bondom34]

One of those see we are trying trades that does nothing. There is no point to this trade. A trade just to do a trade.

Not for the Bucks, they just got rid of a terrible contract.

[Alonzo_Morning]

Hammond is like a cockroach.... Nuclear war could wipe out human existence and the only one to survive would be Hammond.

This is Hammond's 9th season as general manager. In those 9 seasons the Bucks have been over .500 once. They are currently on a 7 season streak of finishing below .500 that probably won't be broken this year.

In the span of 2 year they have traded a first for Greivis Vasquez; took Michael Carter Williams over the Lakers pick this year; traded Zaza, Ersan, and Dudley for nothing; and signed Henson, Monroe, Plumlee, Mirza, and Deledova to a total of $215 million worth of contracts.

Can you explain the one in bold?

Bucks traded Brandon Knight to Phoenix for Received MCW, Tyler Enis and Miles Plumlee

Phoenix traded Plumlee, Enis, Lakers pick received Brandon Knight

76ers traded MCW Received Lakers pick

The only thing the 76ers traded or received was the Lakers pick for MCW. I am sure Milwaukee could have easily cut out the 76ers and Phoenix still does the deal. For whatever reason the Bucks thought MCW was a decent player.

I thought Dell was the clubhouse leader in bad decisions/bad contracts but this Bucks GM is giving him a big run for his money

[Alonzo_Morning]

One of those see we are trying trades that does nothing. There is no point to this trade. A trade just to do a trade.

Not for the Bucks, they just got rid of a terrible contract.

Amazing for Milwaukee, they turned 39 million of guaranteed contract into a much more manageable 11.5 million owed after this season

[SashaTheMachine]

Boring ass trade. Come on GM's, really?

[adarsh1]

Do the Hornets also wanna trade for Andrew Nicholson? I'm serious, I'm sure he could help them offensively..

[tcheco]

Terribly constructed roster you say? The more things change...

So, I'm I wrong? my memory could have fooled me. but redd was barely playing, Luke ridnour was getting 20 minutes per game, Jennings was the best player around, with delfino and Ersan(who i always liked)

Have you never heard of the quote 'the more things change, the more they stay the same'?

I was meaning we still had a terribly constructed roster and was not disagreeing with you at all. Sorry, I thought what I wrote was pretty clear...

Not a very common phrase(just the "the more things change") for me(portuguese speaker), sorry for misinterpreting (:

[Simmons25]

Don't think it changes much to be honest. Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.