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Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#1 » by tmacistight » Fri Feb 3, 2017 5:34 pm

Hey All - It's been years since I've posted here hence the outdated username. I had a question on the Lakers pick. I've seen a lot of posters talking about the Lakers pick as if we had it this year assuming it falls out of the top 3. My understanding is that the Sixers have their pick and we have it protected next year. Can anyone please shed some light on this? If its the Sixers who get the pick, it would be hard to decide what to cheer for since the Sixers are looking on the up and up and Lakers are well the Lakers!
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#2 » by LBPTarHeel27 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 5:41 pm

tmacistight wrote:Hey All - It's been years since I've posted here hence the outdated username. I had a question on the Lakers pick. I've seen a lot of posters talking about the Lakers pick as if we had it this year assuming it falls out of the top 3. My understanding is that the Sixers have their pick and we have it protected next year. Can anyone please shed some light on this? If its the Sixers who get the pick, it would be hard to decide what to cheer for since the Sixers are looking on the up and up and Lakers are well the Lakers!


Outside the Top 4 this year, it goes to Philly...which would mean we would get the 2019 pick.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#3 » by tmacistight » Fri Feb 3, 2017 5:48 pm

Thanks for the clarification. Just more reason to get upset with Hennigan for doing a poor job accumulating picks.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#4 » by Skin » Fri Feb 3, 2017 6:17 pm

tmacistight wrote:Thanks for the clarification. Just more reason to get upset with Hennigan for doing a poor job accumulating picks.

We are getting the pick, not giving it away. There's a chance this could be very valuable especially since it's unprotected.

How is this more reason to get upset? This is the Dwight Howard trade that keeps on giving. What are DEN, LAL and PHI doing right now with their return in that trade?
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#5 » by tmacistight » Fri Feb 3, 2017 6:28 pm

That's true, but at the same time look at the number of picks that the Sixers have accumulated by other means. We had the best player by far in that trade so I wouldn't expect those other teams to still be reaping benefits. Then you think about Boston trading aging stars (Pierce and Garnet) and they keep getting top picks from Brooklyn. So far all the Magic have to show from the Howard trade is the 10th pick from the AG & Elfrid draft. Howard was a top 3 talent in the NBA and its just hard to see our return compared to some of these other teams (see Love for Wiggins...Pierce/Garnett for multiple top picks). I agree there is a lot of luck involved and we still have picks to receive but its been a long time coming.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#6 » by ButchMcRae » Fri Feb 3, 2017 6:45 pm

From my understanding if it falls out of the top 3 then we get Lakers 2019 1st round unprotected. If they get top 3 then we get 2018 & 2019 2nd round picks if im not mistaken.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#7 » by Skin » Fri Feb 3, 2017 6:51 pm

tmacistight wrote:That's true, but at the same time look at the number of picks that the Sixers have accumulated by other means. We had the best player by far in that trade so I wouldn't expect those other teams to still be reaping benefits. Then you think about Boston trading aging stars (Pierce and Garnet) and they keep getting top picks from Brooklyn. So far all the Magic have to show from the Howard trade is the 10th pick from the AG & Elfrid draft. Howard was a top 3 talent in the NBA and its just hard to see our return compared to some of these other teams (see Love for Wiggins...Pierce/Garnett for multiple top picks). I agree there is a lot of luck involved and we still have picks to receive but its been a long time coming.

Love wasn't a FA, so he and his contract had more value than Dwight's. The fact that we flipped Afflao into Fournier, used the PHI pick to get Payton, have Vucevic on a nice deal, moved Harkless for future 2nds, dumped bad contracts in Duhon and Richardson

AND still have this LAL pick coming to us... C'mon man.... give credit where it's due.
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Post#8 » by Jameerthefear » Fri Feb 3, 2017 7:00 pm

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tmacistight wrote:That's true, but at the same time look at the number of picks that the Sixers have accumulated by other means. We had the best player by far in that trade so I wouldn't expect those other teams to still be reaping benefits. Then you think about Boston trading aging stars (Pierce and Garnet) and they keep getting top picks from Brooklyn. So far all the Magic have to show from the Howard trade is the 10th pick from the AG & Elfrid draft. Howard was a top 3 talent in the NBA and its just hard to see our return compared to some of these other teams (see Love for Wiggins...Pierce/Garnett for multiple top picks). I agree there is a lot of luck involved and we still have picks to receive but its been a long time coming.

Love wasn't a FA, so he and his contract had more value than Dwight's. The fact that we flipped Afflao into Fournier, used the PHI pick to get Payton, have Vucevic on a nice deal, moved Harkless for future 2nds, dumped bad contracts in Duhon and Richardson

AND still have this LAL pick coming to us... C'mon man.... give credit where it's due.

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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#9 » by tiderulz » Fri Feb 3, 2017 7:45 pm

ButchMcRae wrote:From my understanding if it falls out of the top 3 then we get Lakers 2019 1st round unprotected. If they get top 3 then we get 2018 & 2019 2nd round picks if im not mistaken.


if they get top-3 this year, then we get their 2nd round picks this year and next year. so if they get top 3, we get 31-33 pick in the 2nd round.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#10 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 7:52 pm

tiderulz wrote:
ButchMcRae wrote:From my understanding if it falls out of the top 3 then we get Lakers 2019 1st round unprotected. If they get top 3 then we get 2018 & 2019 2nd round picks if im not mistaken.


if they get top-3 this year, then we get their 2nd round picks this year and next year. so if they get top 3, we get 31-33 pick in the 2nd round.



So say they stay in top 3, we get their 2nd rd pick(30 something), could we trade that pick + our 2nd round pick(also 30 something) and a player(Mario, Green expiring, Meeks, DJ, whoever) to get back into round 1? Like a late 1st round pick. That way we would have 2 1st round picks.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#11 » by tiderulz » Fri Feb 3, 2017 7:54 pm

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ButchMcRae wrote:From my understanding if it falls out of the top 3 then we get Lakers 2019 1st round unprotected. If they get top 3 then we get 2018 & 2019 2nd round picks if im not mistaken.


if they get top-3 this year, then we get their 2nd round picks this year and next year. so if they get top 3, we get 31-33 pick in the 2nd round.



So say they stay in top 3, we get their 2nd rd pick(30 something), could we trade that pick + our 2nd round pick(also 30 something) and a player(Mario, Green expiring, Meeks, DJ, whoever) to get back into round 1? Like a late 1st round pick. That way we would have 2 1st round picks.


i think it would be very possible, especially if we are moving Mario. We wont know until end of the season, so i dont think we can use Green or Meeks, since they are only under contract for this year.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#12 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Feb 3, 2017 7:59 pm

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if they get top-3 this year, then we get their 2nd round picks this year and next year. so if they get top 3, we get 31-33 pick in the 2nd round.



So say they stay in top 3, we get their 2nd rd pick(30 something), could we trade that pick + our 2nd round pick(also 30 something) and a player(Mario, Green expiring, Meeks, DJ, whoever) to get back into round 1? Like a late 1st round pick. That way we would have 2 1st round picks.


i think it would be very possible, especially if we are moving Mario. We wont know until end of the season, so i dont think we can use Green or Meeks, since they are only under contract for this year.



Ok, but would be possible with Mario or another player under contract pass this season? For example, pick 31 from them(just using random #) and say our pick is 33, so pick 31, 33 and Mario for say a pick between 25-30. Of course we would have to find a team to do that, team that wants Mario.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#13 » by Howard Mass » Fri Feb 3, 2017 8:09 pm

If The Lakers do not fall out of the top-3 this year, The Magic lose out on getting a first and have to settle for The Lakers' 2017 and 2018 2nds.

The Lakers are getting better and should be better in 2019 but it would still be nice to have their first that year unprotected rather than 2 2nds.

It's the last possible 1st from the Dwight Howard deal as the Magic used the first two on Elfrid Payton. That 2nd one we will not know for sure if they missed out on until 2018. It was the one Hinkie blackmailed Hennigan to get back.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#14 » by NEM » Fri Feb 3, 2017 8:23 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
ButchMcRae wrote:From my understanding if it falls out of the top 3 then we get Lakers 2019 1st round unprotected. If they get top 3 then we get 2018 & 2019 2nd round picks if im not mistaken.


if they get top-3 this year, then we get their 2nd round picks this year and next year. so if they get top 3, we get 31-33 pick in the 2nd round.



So say they stay in top 3, we get their 2nd rd pick(30 something), could we trade that pick + our 2nd round pick(also 30 something) and a player(Mario, Green expiring, Meeks, DJ, whoever) to get back into round 1? Like a late 1st round pick. That way we would have 2 1st round picks.


Early second round pick > late first round pick, usually because 1st are guaranteed deals, while you can get similar level talent early in the second round.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#15 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Feb 3, 2017 8:34 pm

The Lakers have no incenvive to give up that draft pick to Phily this year, then to us unprotected 2 years later. I expect management to tank worse than they are now. My expectations are the Lakers will remain really bad and keep that pick which really screws us but you never know miracles happen. I think we all knew that Kobe at some point would not be there but I dont think we expected LA to be this bad this long.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#16 » by Skybox » Sat Feb 4, 2017 2:11 pm

This LAL pick situation is the single biggest opportunity floating around the Magic right now (IMO)...Go Lakers! (they have a HUGE incentive to tank )

and...The Dwight trade was Henny's finest moment. It would have been incredibly easy to end up with Andrew (I don't even remember his name) who, I don't think, ever played another game. That was a big win for ORL. Dwight was out, picked his destination, and Henny made lemonade out of a terrible situation to begin his career in.
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#17 » by j-ragg » Sat Feb 4, 2017 3:55 pm

tmacistight wrote:That's true, but at the same time look at the number of picks that the Sixers have accumulated by other means. We had the best player by far in that trade so I wouldn't expect those other teams to still be reaping benefits. Then you think about Boston trading aging stars (Pierce and Garnet) and they keep getting top picks from Brooklyn. So far all the Magic have to show from the Howard trade is the 10th pick from the AG & Elfrid draft. Howard was a top 3 talent in the NBA and its just hard to see our return compared to some of these other teams (see Love for Wiggins...Pierce/Garnett for multiple top picks). I agree there is a lot of luck involved and we still have picks to receive but its been a long time coming.


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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#18 » by Skin » Sat Feb 4, 2017 5:13 pm

Skybox wrote:This LAL pick situation is the single biggest opportunity floating around the Magic right now (IMO)...Go Lakers! (they have a HUGE incentive to tank )

and...The Dwight trade was Henny's finest moment. It would have been incredibly easy to end up with Andrew (I don't even remember his name) who, I don't think, ever played another game. That was a big win for ORL. Dwight was out, picked his destination, and Henny made lemonade out of a terrible situation to begin his career in.

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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#19 » by MagicFan32 » Sun Feb 5, 2017 6:45 am

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tmacistight wrote:Thanks for the clarification. Just more reason to get upset with Hennigan for doing a poor job accumulating picks.

We are getting the pick, not giving it away. There's a chance this could be very valuable especially since it's unprotected.

How is this more reason to get upset? This is the Dwight Howard trade that keeps on giving. What are DEN, LAL and PHI doing right now with their return in that trade?

yeah and if the lakers are top 3, we are not getting that pick, and instead two useless 2nd rounders, how did hennigan allow the lakers to negotiate that?
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Re: Question on Lakers Pick 

Post#20 » by Skin » Sun Feb 5, 2017 7:03 am

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tmacistight wrote:Thanks for the clarification. Just more reason to get upset with Hennigan for doing a poor job accumulating picks.

We are getting the pick, not giving it away. There's a chance this could be very valuable especially since it's unprotected.

How is this more reason to get upset? This is the Dwight Howard trade that keeps on giving. What are DEN, LAL and PHI doing right now with their return in that trade?

yeah and if the lakers are top 3, we are not getting that pick, and instead two useless 2nd rounders, how did hennigan allow the lakers to negotiate that?

Are you being serious? Henny isn't perfect but this wondering why he didn't get an unprotected 1st in addition to all the rest is just silly.

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