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Dgbarnes wrote:Huge night for the tank on Monday.
Lakers v. Knicks
76ers v. Pistons
Suns v. Pelicans
Heat v. Timberwolves
Mavs v. Nuggets
Bulls v. Kings
All very winnable games for those in the tank race.
thelead wrote:So, what is the Kings' record since they lost Gay? Seems like they've been better without him.
OrlandO wrote:thelead wrote:So, what is the Kings' record since they lost Gay? Seems like they've been better without him.
9-12 without gay (1 loss was without cousins) and 11-19 with gay this season.
CamWinfree wrote:Well, as much as people don't credit Steve Kyler, he just said he doesn't expect Ibaka to be moved by the deadline. So go figure.
- CamWinfree
OrlandoDream wrote:CamWinfree wrote:Well, as much as people don't credit Steve Kyler, he just said he doesn't expect Ibaka to be moved by the deadline. So go figure.
- CamWinfree
Has anything Kyler said about the Magic ever come true?
OrlandoDream wrote:CamWinfree wrote:Well, as much as people don't credit Steve Kyler, he just said he doesn't expect Ibaka to be moved by the deadline. So go figure.
- CamWinfree
Has anything Kyler said about the Magic ever come true?
magicman123 wrote:damn what are we 5 years into the rebuilding process and we are still talking about tanking? this is sad, i love my magic and losing sucks lol
OrlandO wrote:thelead wrote:So, what is the Kings' record since they lost Gay? Seems like they've been better without him.
9-12 without gay (1 loss was without cousins) and 11-19 with gay this season.
darthmerrick wrote:All in on Dennis Smith and Fultz. I think they have the potential to be like Chris Paul and Deron Williams to be impact players right away. Jackson and Issac intrigue me if both PG's are gone. Fox, Lonzo Ball, the french guy may be good...just not sold on them.
This draft has me wanting another first round pick. Can you imagine landing Smith and Bacon?
We should have a fire sell before the deadline and that includes maybe departing with Elf...whom I've been a big fan of his potential until reality set in this season.
If Boston came calling with Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson and the Brooklyn pick for Aaron Gordon, Ibaka...would anyone say no?
PennytoShaq wrote:CamWinfree wrote:If Rob can find a way to get Jaylen Brown, then I will be happy. Otherwise we need to tank this season and either find a way to get Butler, or roll with whoever we get with our lottery pick.
- CamWinfree
Strong first post. Agree with it all.
OrlandoDream wrote:CamWinfree wrote:Well, as much as people don't credit Steve Kyler, he just said he doesn't expect Ibaka to be moved by the deadline. So go figure.
- CamWinfree
Has anything Kyler said about the Magic ever come true?
darthmerrick wrote:All in on Dennis Smith and Fultz. I think they have the potential to be like Chris Paul and Deron Williams to be impact players right away. Jackson and Issac intrigue me if both PG's are gone. Fox, Lonzo Ball, the french guy may be good...just not sold on them.
This draft has me wanting another first round pick. Can you imagine landing Smith and Bacon?
We should have a fire sell before the deadline and that includes maybe departing with Elf...whom I've been a big fan of his potential until reality set in this season.
If Boston came calling with Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson and the Brooklyn pick for Aaron Gordon, Ibaka...would anyone say no?
Edual wrote:JF5 wrote:cedric76 wrote:People need to stop with that pf bs. He is best at sf.
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But how so?
He's not a good enough dribbler, and honestly I can't see his handles improving much more than this.
He's a VERY poor shooter for the position as he's shooting 29 Percent from 3 which is putrid for a perimeter player, and his overall scoring relies on his shooting because he can barely get to the rim if at all if it isn't a cross-match up.
His percentages from different ranges.
0-5 ft: 67.8 Percent
5-9 ft: 26.8 Percent
10-14 ft: 40.0 Percent
15-19 ft: 31.4 Percent
20-24 ft: 27.7 Percent
25-29 ft: 32.1 Percent
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/203932/shooting/
Those aren't shooting numbers that even scream starter for even a below average Small Forward. He needs to move back to the 4...
Compared to I guess someone like Wilson Chandler the #'s are not that far off, ehh maybe thats why chandler is not a starter, I mean I know Gordon is a bad shooter but he seems to be very good at defending the #3... good enough where his defense outweighs his offence. If you put him at the #4 he likely will just suck on both ends.
Draymond Greens Numbers are horrible, but he makes up for it on D
darthmerrick wrote:All in on Dennis Smith and Fultz. I think they have the potential to be like Chris Paul and Deron Williams to be impact players right away. Jackson and Issac intrigue me if both PG's are gone. Fox, Lonzo Ball, the french guy may be good...just not sold on them.
This draft has me wanting another first round pick. Can you imagine landing Smith and Bacon?
We should have a fire sell before the deadline and that includes maybe departing with Elf...whom I've been a big fan of his potential until reality set in this season.
If Boston came calling with Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson and the Brooklyn pick for Aaron Gordon, Ibaka...would anyone say no?
JF5 wrote:Edual wrote:JF5 wrote:
But how so?
He's not a good enough dribbler, and honestly I can't see his handles improving much more than this.
He's a VERY poor shooter for the position as he's shooting 29 Percent from 3 which is putrid for a perimeter player, and his overall scoring relies on his shooting because he can barely get to the rim if at all if it isn't a cross-match up.
His percentages from different ranges.
0-5 ft: 67.8 Percent
5-9 ft: 26.8 Percent
10-14 ft: 40.0 Percent
15-19 ft: 31.4 Percent
20-24 ft: 27.7 Percent
25-29 ft: 32.1 Percent
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/203932/shooting/
Those aren't shooting numbers that even scream starter for even a below average Small Forward. He needs to move back to the 4...
Compared to I guess someone like Wilson Chandler the #'s are not that far off, ehh maybe thats why chandler is not a starter, I mean I know Gordon is a bad shooter but he seems to be very good at defending the #3... good enough where his defense outweighs his offence. If you put him at the #4 he likely will just suck on both ends.
Draymond Greens Numbers are horrible, but he makes up for it on D
Wilson Chandler's shooting isn't that bad compared to AG's:
0-5 ft: 61.3 Percent
5-9 ft: 40.7 Percent
10-14 ft: 36.0 Percent
15-19 ft: 43.3 Percent
20-24 ft: 28.8 Percent
25-29 ft: 39.1 Percent
His shooting to me is average... Plus, I agree to disagree with you on Gordon being able to consistently defend the 3. He's wildly inconsistent. Some nights he'll drape the opposing Forward and other nights he'll get burned/and be out of position.
Plus Draymond Green is the guy I was AG to model his game after. Except I don't think he has the ability to anchor a defense the way Green can. He'd be better off if he just focused on his all-around abilities rather than trying to be the player that HE THINKS he can be offensively.
Blue_and_Whte wrote:OrlandoDream wrote:CamWinfree wrote:Well, as much as people don't credit Steve Kyler, he just said he doesn't expect Ibaka to be moved by the deadline. So go figure.
- CamWinfree
Has anything Kyler said about the Magic ever come true?
No.
- Blue_and_whte
