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Players Imposing Their Will 

Post#1 » by NuggetsWY » Mon Feb 6, 2017 3:39 pm

We've all watched games where a superstar takes it easy early in a game; gets the other players involved, etc. Then all of a sudden, he just busts out and takes over - in essence imposing his will on a game. No matter what the other team does, these guys still get the shots they want. My question is, which Nuggets are capable of doing that now or show the potential to do it in the future?

Jokic seems to play the same against all opponents on both ends of the court. Not saying he's not good, on the contrary, he's outstanding. However, it doesn't seem like he'll ever be the player "imposing his will". It just doesn't seem to be his nature. For him, I'm OK with that.

Nurkic has shown signs of imposing his will on the boards. So has Faried. Arthur can make a big difference on defense. Chandler is a good all around player and he can get hot now and then. Barton's another nice all around player; very good in the open court. Yet they don't seem like they can take over a game.

Gallinari can put up buckets in a hurry and get to the line often; but he doesn't really take over a game. If the other team tries to shut him down, he becomes a very good passer.

Nelson had some good years, but he can no longer impose his will, even on a hot streak. We don't know much about Beasley yet.

Mudiay can once in a while show flashes of ability to dominate, but he has yet to show he can take over a game.

Murray seems like he's one that might just be able to impose his will on a game, when his leash is taken off.

What do you think?
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Re: Players Imposing Their Will 

Post#2 » by The Rebel » Mon Feb 6, 2017 5:09 pm

Jokic imposes his will most of the time he is on court, but there have game when he takes it to the next level. Murray and Mudiay both have shown the ability. I think Murray is eventual closer though.
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Re: Players Imposing Their Will 

Post#3 » by Tecmo » Mon Feb 6, 2017 5:54 pm

Jokic doesn't have the benefit that a Harden, Westbrook or Curry have as PGs controlling the ball. He's dependent on his mates passing him the ball. Give him time, he'll start demanding the rock and we'll see him develop into a "will imposer".
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Re: Players Imposing Their Will 

Post#4 » by skywalker33 » Tue Feb 7, 2017 12:27 am

The Rebel wrote:Jokic imposes his will most of the time he is on court, but there have game when he takes it to the next level. Murray and Mudiay both have shown the ability. I think Murray is eventual closer though.


While I agree that Jolic has upped his game, I haven't seen him impose his will on any game, he just has a solid game which does impact and elevates players around him. To me, 'imposing your will" implies taking over a game much as Jordan, Barkley, Bird, Hakeem used to, ultimately demoralizing the opposition into submission. I have seen both Murray and Mudiay do it, not on a consistent basis yet, but it has happened (why I don't want to give up on Mudiay yet).

I can easily see Nikola has the talent, he just needs to focus and direct it to become that Alpha Wolf !
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Post#5 » by The Rebel » Tue Feb 7, 2017 2:16 am

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The Rebel wrote:Jokic imposes his will most of the time he is on court, but there have game when he takes it to the next level. Murray and Mudiay both have shown the ability. I think Murray is eventual closer though.


While I agree that Jolic has upped his game, I haven't seen him impose his will on any game, he just has a solid game which does impact and elevates players around him. To me, 'imposing your will" implies taking over a game much as Jordan, Barkley, Bird, Hakeem used to, ultimately demoralizing the opposition into submission. I have seen both Murray and Mudiay do it, not on a consistent basis yet, but it has happened (why I don't want to give up on Mudiay yet).

I can easily see Nikola has the talent, he just needs to focus and direct it to become that Alpha Wolf !


Go back and watch the Suns game where Jokic got hurt, and he does demoralize teams as he plays watch how frustrated bigs get against him as he makes it look so easy. the biggest issue is that Jameer even after all these years cannot figure out how to pass into the post, high or low.
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Post#6 » by NuggetsWY » Tue Feb 7, 2017 2:36 am

The Rebel wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
The Rebel wrote:Jokic imposes his will most of the time he is on court, but there have game when he takes it to the next level. Murray and Mudiay both have shown the ability. I think Murray is eventual closer though.


While I agree that Jolic has upped his game, I haven't seen him impose his will on any game, he just has a solid game which does impact and elevates players around him. To me, 'imposing your will" implies taking over a game much as Jordan, Barkley, Bird, Hakeem used to, ultimately demoralizing the opposition into submission. I have seen both Murray and Mudiay do it, not on a consistent basis yet, but it has happened (why I don't want to give up on Mudiay yet).

I can easily see Nikola has the talent, he just needs to focus and direct it to become that Alpha Wolf !


Go back and watch the Suns game where Jokic got hurt, and he does demoralize teams as he plays watch how frustrated bigs get against him as he makes it look so easy. the biggest issue is that Jameer even after all these years cannot figure out how to pass into the post, high or low.

Sorta' with Sky here. Then again, I think our Rebel is right too. :lol:
I don't think Jokic "imposes his will" in games; at least not yet.
I do think he can demoralize a team big time though.
I see those as different, that's all.

As for Nelson, most rookies have trouble passing into the post - it's mostly about the angle, or so I've read over and over. College passes to the post are so much easier but NBA players, even poor defenders, are taller, longer, and quicker than most college players and passes to the post have to come from the correct angle. Nelson has some skills and for his salary, he's alright - except for stealing playing time from Murray (and that's on the coach). But he is not a great PG and this is just one flaw (that he tries to force too many passes that shouldn't be thrown).
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Re: Players Imposing Their Will 

Post#7 » by skywalker33 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:19 am

Now THAT was imposing his will !!
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Re: Players Imposing Their Will 

Post#8 » by SoCalNuggsFan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:45 am

skywalker33 wrote:Now THAT was imposing his will !!

He made older Hernangomez look like a middle schooler

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