Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion 3: About Last Knight

[Qwigglez]

Time for a new thread 15 days before the trade deadline!
Last thread: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1501171&start=1960

List of players on trading block (rumored at some point in the last two months):

Spoiler:

Carmelo Anthony
DeMarcus Cousins
Jimmy Butler
Serge Ibaka - Raptors acquired
Nikola Vucevic
Nerlen Noels
Jahlil Okafor
Shabazz Muhammad
PJ Tucker
Tyson Chandler
Brandon Knight
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Jusuf Nurkic - Blazers acquired
Wilson Chandler
Emmanuel Mudiay
Reggie Jackson
Ricky Rubio
Goran Dragic

Anyone want to take a wild guess on who gets traded and where?

[nevetsov]

LOVE the thread title.

[m1chal]

LOVE the thread title.

Overly optimistic, IMHO

[carey]

I think Tucker goes to Houston in the West or Toronto if traded to the East. I think both Chandler and Knight are Suns post-deadline.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think Tucker goes to Houston in the West or Toronto if traded to the East. I think both Chandler and Knight are Suns post-deadline.

I think you're pretty spot on with the tucker destinations. I liked that houston deal someone posted with him and barbosa headed out for brewer and their 1st rounder in 17.

I think the clippers would love to land him and he would be a great addition for them. Problem is its kind of hard to find a clips deal that makes sense. They dont have their pick this year so that removes the most obvious trade. I guess the suns could take peirce as salary filler and their 2019 pick or brice johnson who i kind of like but with 2 other young 4s i dont know if it makes sense to bring him in.

Boston is another possible tucker destination. They have plenty of trade pieces to make a deal work and he would help their rebounding.

I could see barbosa to Cleveland as a possibility in a minor move.

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[jcsunsfan]

I could see Tucker going to Boston. He would be a nice piece for them to have, and they have too many young players already. They have a couple of extra 2019 picks in the pipeline (Clippers with lottery protection, Memphis with 1-8 protection).

[King4Day]

I think Barbosa is a sure thing to be dealt.
Tucker being the wild card if a team is willing to give up some sort of 1st

[Scutt]

“I know we talked about playoffs, but our whole thing is about developing these young guys,” Dudley admits. “Let’s just be honest about what it is. We’ve gone young early. … [It’s about] how we can develop these guys to be ready to play at a high level quicker.”

So Jared Dudley is the Suns new PR guy now that we lost Coro? Does he think Suns fans are blind? Maybe he can explain why we have spent the whole year playing Chandler and Tucker such heavy minutes over Len and Bender. I think that really shows how they have "gone young early".

[maRioGrande]

Hey guys, there's been rumor that dragan is done for season and needs surgery, do you know anything about it?

[jcsunsfan]

“I know we talked about playoffs, but our whole thing is about developing these young guys,” Dudley admits. “Let’s just be honest about what it is. We’ve gone young early. … [It’s about] how we can develop these guys to be ready to play at a high level quicker.”

So Jared Dudley is the Suns new PR guy now that we lost Coro? Does he think Suns fans are blind? Maybe he can explain why we have spent the whole year playing Chandler and Tucker such heavy minutes over Len and Bender. I think that really shows how they have "gone young early".

Because it does not help young guys to play with exclusively young guys in the same line up. Dudley is exactly right. You have to play a mix of young guys and veterans together in order for proper development to take place.

[carey]

Hey guys, there's been rumor that dragan is done for season and needs surgery, do you know anything about it?

I've heard nothing. Cite your source, please.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Hey guys, there's been rumor that dragan is done for season and needs surgery, do you know anything about it?

I haven't heard that but it would certainly be the the suns luck to lose him for the year.

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[maRioGrande]

I found source, well known Croatian sport journalist wrote on his Facebook page that Dragan needs surgery on wrist and it will take 3-4 months to recover.

[carey]

I found source, well known Croatian sport journalist wrote on his Facebook page that Dragan needs surgery on wrist and it will take 3-4 months to recover.

On his wrist? He's been out due to an ankle injury. That would be strange because he's not even practicing at the moment.

[maRioGrande]

https://www.facebook.com/bernard.jurisic2006/photos/a.294389704006698.63344.294377704007898/1110604349051892/?type=3

This is the link, you probably won't understand what is written since it is in Croatian. Guy is well known journalist with good connections, don't think he lies, just hope he's wrong

[maRioGrande]

I found source, well known Croatian sport journalist wrote on his Facebook page that Dragan needs surgery on wrist and it will take 3-4 months to recover.

On his wrist? He's been out due to an ankle injury. That would be strange because he's not even practicing at the moment.

I used google translate, don't know the right word in english.

[jcsunsfan]

Here is the google translate version

Dragan Bender because of wrist injury and surgery that requires recovery from 3-4 months completed his first NBA season

[Scutt]

Playing young guys together may result in some growing pains, but that is what rebuilding teams have to put up with. If you get the right group of young guys, the hope is they will develop chemistry and start to learn how to win. That is how you build a sustainable core for the future. But I guess you are like Earl Watson and want to see our young guys all arrive at "different times"?

The Suns on the other hand, insist on playing a bunch of vets and Devin Booker all the time. They are not doing this to help out their young guys, they are doing it because despite the results of being last in the West, the delusional front office still wants to try and make the playoffs with their core of Bledsoe, Chandler, and Tucker. Apparently those 3 are absolute "winners" to the Suns. The Suns are stunting the development of their young players, like always, in a bid to win a few extra games in the now. I am sure they do it because they know they have gullible fans who buy whatever they are selling. I have posted this countless times, so whats is one more: We are 4 years into our rebuild, and our core appears to be Bledsoe, Chandler, Tucker, and Booker. That doesn't concern you in the least?

[WeekapaugGroove]

I just assume its true because this franchise might actually be cursed.

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[jcsunsfan]

Playing young guys together may result in some growing pains, but that is what rebuilding teams have to put up with. If you get the right group of young guys, the hope is they will develop chemistry and start to learn how to win. That is how you build a sustainable core for the future. But I guess you are like Earl Watson and want to see our young guys all arrive at "different times"?

The Suns on the other hand, insist on playing a bunch of vets and Devin Booker all the time. They are not doing this to help out their young guys, they are doing it because despite the results of being last in the West, the delusional front office still wants to try and make the playoffs with their core of Bledsoe, Chandler, and Tucker. Apparently those 3 are absolute "winners" to the Suns. The Suns are stunting the development of their young players, like always, in a bid to win a few extra games in the now. I am sure they do it because they know they have gullible fans who buy whatever they are selling. I have posted this countless times, so whats is one more: We are 4 years into our rebuild, and our core appears to be Bledsoe, Chandler, Tucker, and Booker. That doesn't concern you in the least?

No. This is how you develop young players. Their bodies are not accustomed to a long NBA season. You have to evaluate alot of things to determine if they are able to play extended minutes. They also develop poorly if you play them all together. We are obviously not trying to make the playoffs.

What they are doing with playing time makes perfect sense to me.