Tankapolooza: Draft Lottery Odds/Watch thread

NEM · Post #341 » by **NEM** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 6:41 am

OrlandO wrote:
NEM wrote:We have to lead the league in losses of 15 points or more...

We have 15 such losses

How many such losses in previous seasons during the rebuild?

Actually Brooklyn has 17 of those type losses this year. We are almost as bad as them. Pathetic.

NEM · Post #342 » by **NEM** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 7:11 am

Most losses by 15 points or more this season:

Brooklyn - 17
Philadelphia - 16
Orlando - 15
Phoenix - 13
LA Lakers - 13
Dallas - 11
Detroit - 11
Portland - 10
Denver - 10
Oklahoma City - 10
Atlanta - 9
Milwaukee - 8
Indiana - 8
New Orleans - 8
Chicago - 6
Sacramento - 6
Charlotte - 6
New York - 6
LA Clippers - 6
Minnesota - 5
Memphis - 5
Cleveland - 5
San Antonio - 4
Houston - 4
Miami - 3
Golden State - 3
Toronto - 2
Washington - 2
Boston - 2
Utah - 1

NEM · Post #343 » by **NEM** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 7:24 am

OrlandO wrote:
NEM wrote:We have to lead the league in losses of 15 points or more...

We have 15 such losses

How many such losses in previous seasons during the rebuild?

2016-17: 15* (20-34)
2015-16: 11 (35-47)
2014-15: 16 (25-57)
2013-14: 18 (23-59)
2012-13: 18 (20-62)

* - 28 games remaining

So we have 28 games to break the record lol

drsd · Post #344 » by **drsd** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 12:04 pm

Xatticus wrote:Perhaps Cheick Diallo, Tyreke Evans (expiring), and their 2017 unprotected 1st for Vucevic.

Right now NBAdraft.net has that as Jayson Tatum. For me this is in the realm of a 4th starter or a marginal starter. Trading an above-average starter in Vučević for a rookie that projects to be considerably average in expectation makes no sense. It also breaks the rule of trading a tall player for a shorter one.

If the Magic want to trade Vučević, why not gamble on Cousins? At least that is a bold move, and not a trade that will not improve the team.

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IllMagic04 · Post #345 » by **IllMagic04** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 2:14 pm

We got Philly, Dallas and Miami next. Very crucial games. I'm a fair guy. I understand that its asking a lot to lose all 3 of these games. (That would be great though) If we lose 2 outta 3 I'm happy. I figure we beat Philly but we gotta lose the next 2. If we follow the logic of lose the ones we are supposed to lose and split the ones where we have a shot to win we should be ok in the 2nd half of the year. I fear that we go on some weird winning streak like we did last year. Im just hoping that does not happen.

pepe1991 · Post #346 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 2:58 pm

What's up with Gordon ? will he play?

OrlandO · Post #347 » by **OrlandO** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 3:52 pm

NEM wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
NEM wrote:We have to lead the league in losses of 15 points or more...

We have 15 such losses

How many such losses in previous seasons during the rebuild?

2016-17: 15* (20-34)
2015-16: 11 (35-47)
2014-15: 16 (25-57)
2013-14: 18 (23-59)
2012-13: 18 (20-62)

* - 28 games remaining

So we have 28 games to break the record lol

At this point I wonder if Jacque Vaughn would be doing any worse with this squad...

yoyojw17 · Post #348 » by **yoyojw17** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 5:02 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:We got Philly, Dallas and Miami next. Very crucial games. I'm a fair guy. I understand that its asking a lot to lose all 3 of these games. (That would be great though) If we lose 2 outta 3 I'm happy. I figure we beat Philly but we gotta lose the next 2. If we follow the logic of lose the ones we are supposed to lose and split the ones where we have a shot to win we should be ok in the 2nd half of the year. I fear that we go on some weird winning streak like we did last year. Im just hoping that does not happen.

I say let gordon rest his foot for the next 3 games! lol

IllMagic04 · Post #349 » by **IllMagic04** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 7:36 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
IllMagic04 wrote:We got Philly, Dallas and Miami next. Very crucial games. I'm a fair guy. I understand that its asking a lot to lose all 3 of these games. (That would be great though) If we lose 2 outta 3 I'm happy. I figure we beat Philly but we gotta lose the next 2. If we follow the logic of lose the ones we are supposed to lose and split the ones where we have a shot to win we should be ok in the 2nd half of the year. I fear that we go on some weird winning streak like we did last year. Im just hoping that does not happen.

I say let gordon rest his foot for the next 3 games! lol

I agree. Unleash Mario. The super tank commander :lol:

OrlandoDream · Post #350 » by **OrlandoDream** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 8:14 pm

Big scouting game tonite. We have NC State going at FSU. Gonna be a good matchup to watch Smith Jr and Isaac go at it. I have a feeling Smith Jr will have the better game since NC State isnt that good and Isaac wont be as involved with FSU being so stacked.

j-ragg · Post #351 » by **j-ragg** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 8:46 pm

drsd wrote:
Xatticus wrote:Perhaps Cheick Diallo, Tyreke Evans (expiring), and their 2017 unprotected 1st for Vucevic.

Right now NBAdraft.net has that as Jayson Tatum. For me this is in the realm of a 4th starter or a marginal starter. Trading an above-average starter in Vučević for a rookie that projects to be considerably average in expectation makes no sense. It also breaks the rule of trading a tall player for a shorter one.

If the Magic want to trade Vučević, why not gamble on Cousins? At least that is a bold move, and not a trade that will not improve the team.

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Don't worry. New Orleans would never trade their unprotected 2017 first for Vuc anyway lol. The fact that one of our fans wouldn't accept that is incredible.

axl_c_cool · Post #352 » by **axl_c_cool** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 12:23 am

What's the most we can win to get top 5? I'm thinking 27 wins is a push to get a top 5 pick? I see us getting 5-7 wins depending on what trade we make.

OrlandoDream · Post #353 » by **OrlandoDream** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 1:56 am

Looks like Lakers have also embraced the tank. They are already starting Ingram full time at SF despite being one of the worse defensive SF in the NBA. So letting your three young guys deangelo, Randle, and Ingram go out there and just play while getting experience and building chemistry all while sucking enough to get another top pick. Must be nice to have management who invests in their youths success.

tiderulz · Post #354 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 2:19 am

yoyojw17 wrote:
IllMagic04 wrote:We got Philly, Dallas and Miami next. Very crucial games. I'm a fair guy. I understand that its asking a lot to lose all 3 of these games. (That would be great though) If we lose 2 outta 3 I'm happy. I figure we beat Philly but we gotta lose the next 2. If we follow the logic of lose the ones we are supposed to lose and split the ones where we have a shot to win we should be ok in the 2nd half of the year. I fear that we go on some weird winning streak like we did last year. Im just hoping that does not happen.

I say let gordon rest his foot for the next 3 games! lol

does it matter? not like we are winning with him

Post #355 » by **eyriq** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 2:32 am

NEM wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
NEM wrote:We have to lead the league in losses of 15 points or more...

We have 15 such losses

How many such losses in previous seasons during the rebuild?

2016-17: 15* (20-34)
2015-16: 11 (35-47)
2014-15: 16 (25-57)
2013-14: 18 (23-59)
2012-13: 18 (20-62)

* - 28 games remaining

So we have 28 games to break the record lol

OMG I'm floored at the utter terrible. Terrible terrible terrible.

PrimeThyme · Post #356 » by **PrimeThyme** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 2:44 am

axl_c_cool wrote:What's the most we can win to get top 5? I'm thinking 27 wins is a push to get a top 5 pick? I see us getting 5-7 wins depending on what trade we make.

27 wins would get us into the top 3. There is a ton of parity this year. Fivethirtyeight has 6 or so teams expected to win 31-33 games. The lakers, sixers, and suns are expected to win 28 with Brooklyn expected to win 16. If Embid gets healthy again I could see both the sixers and suns finishing with better records than us.

OrlandO · Post #357 » by **OrlandO** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 3:18 am

The bucks, already struggling as of late, might be losing jabari for a while.... http://streamable.com/5f7bu
Tank race is going to be competitive...

Post #358 » by **SOUL** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 3:27 am

Wolves win!

Up to 5th.

OrlandoDream · Post #359 » by **OrlandoDream** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 3:41 am

I cant believe how much the lakers suck. After such a hot start and then they turned 180 and suck it up even more then us.

Im sticking to my prediction and say we finish with the 5th worse record. Nets are on another tank level. Suns and Lakers are in the same place where they chuck up alot of shots but play no defense. Then you have Philly that is back to being HInkie Philly without Embiid. Idk if they will bring Simmons back this year. Their already two games ahead of us in the tank race and have some tough games coming up.

I think we will finish with the 5th best odds and pray that the baskeball gods line up the planets for us this year.

JF5 · Post #360 » by **JF5** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:29 am

OrlandoDream wrote:I cant believe how much the lakers suck. After such a hot start and then they turned 180 and suck it up even more then us.

Im sticking to my prediction and say we finish with the 5th worse record. Nets are on another tank level. Suns and Lakers are in the same place where they chuck up alot of shots but play no defense. Then you have Philly that is back to being HInkie Philly without Embiid. Idk if they will bring Simmons back this year. Their already two games ahead of us in the tank race and have some tough games coming up.

I think we will finish with the 5th best odds and pray that the baskeball gods line up the planets for us this year.

The Lakers were just overachieving at the start of the season. Even Luke Walton admitted it.