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mbsnmisc wrote:CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Yabusele is Anthony Bennett minus the lofty expectations of being drafted 1st overall. Same build, same strengths. Meh. I won't get my hopes up.
Minus the **** conditioning and the laissez-faire attitude. Yabs looks funny in a basketball uniform, but he is lean, strong and agile. Bennett is none of those things.
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:mbsnmisc wrote:CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Yabusele is Anthony Bennett minus the lofty expectations of being drafted 1st overall. Same build, same strengths. Meh. I won't get my hopes up.
Minus the **** conditioning and the laissez-faire attitude. Yabs looks funny in a basketball uniform, but he is lean, strong and agile. Bennett is none of those things.
Anthony Bennett with a work ethic still wouldn't make the current roster. I don't see anything impressive about playing well in a league where Jimmer Freddette is averaging close to 40 ppg.
mbsnmisc wrote:CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:mbsnmisc wrote:Minus the **** conditioning and the laissez-faire attitude. Yabs looks funny in a basketball uniform, but he is lean, strong and agile. Bennett is none of those things.
Anthony Bennett with a work ethic still wouldn't make the current roster. I don't see anything impressive about playing well in a league where Jimmer Freddette is averaging close to 40 ppg.
Jimmer is obviously the GOAT.
Homerclease wrote:Gomes3PC wrote:Millsap was also a freak on the glass in college. Yabu is a solid rebounder but I don't think he has the natural feel as a rebounder that Millsap did as a younger player.
I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out
Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Gomes3PC wrote:Millsap was also a freak on the glass in college. Yabu is a solid rebounder but I don't think he has the natural feel as a rebounder that Millsap did as a younger player.
I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out
Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out
Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out
Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
FakeScreenName123 wrote:Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
nah you've hated on him since day 1 for reasons no one can figure out. you keep calling him fat a bunch too. i would go through post history to prove this point but i g2g eat pho
Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
So as a Celtic fan I'm obligated to like and defend every single Celtic draft selection? I can't have an opinion on a guy unless it's a positive one? Of course I want him to succeed, he's going to be a member of the squad unless he's dealt. I'm not rooting against a Celtic just so I can say that my opinion on a message board was right, I just don't think he has what it takes to succeed in the NBA. He's an undersized 4 who's an average athlete isn't quick enough to guard 3's and frankly is a total zero on defense period right now.
The rest of your post is just drivel, talent evaluation is far from an exact science and even professionals get it wrong as often as weathermen do. And if you want to debate a topic don't use the you haven't seen him play nonsense. The highlight videos are all right here in this very thread and I've been able to find a few full games of his as well.
Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
So as a Celtic fan I'm obligated to like and defend every single Celtic draft selection? I can't have an opinion on a guy unless it's a positive one? Of course I want him to succeed, he's going to be a member of the squad unless he's dealt. I'm not rooting against a Celtic just so I can say that my opinion on a message board was right, I just don't think he has what it takes to succeed in the NBA. He's an undersized 4 who's an average athlete isn't quick enough to guard 3's and frankly is a total zero on defense period right now.
The rest of your post is just drivel, talent evaluation is far from an exact science and even professionals get it wrong as often as weathermen do. And if you want to debate a topic don't use the you haven't seen him play nonsense. The highlight videos are all right here in this very thread and I've been able to find a few full games of his as well.
Sure you are entitled to your opinion, but you have no basis for the things you say other than his size at the preferred position is on the shorter side. But the game is being played smaller, just look at the Warriors and the role Green plays there, or Kawhi Lenard on the Spurs. No I am not saying that Yabs is as good as they are, but who knows. You have no ability to judge his defence capabilities without seeing them for yourself, even then I doubt you would know good defence.
I think you base your opinion on his size and the fact he is playing in China and nothing more. Which frankly makes your opinion not worth much, as you can see by most of the other posters thinking the same.
Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
darrendaye wrote:Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
Great to have your feedback and knowledge. How do you view his effort level? I have watched games online and have a favorable opinion, but, I do see stretches on defense where he throttles it down and trots back on defense. Certainly he carries a sizable load on offense and he does have big effort plays on defense too. I don't know if I qualify him as a "big effort" guy overall though and that is what likely defines how good he will be in the NBA.
djFan71 wrote:Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:Why, because my opinion is different than yours?
No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
It's awesome you have & shared this info, but Homer's being pretty fair in his opinion in my opinion. A 6'7" power forward historically has the deck stacked against them. Sure, there are examples of starter, even star level players with that combination. But, it's rare. He's fighthing uphill from day 1. I think we'd all love for Yabs to beat the odds and be a major contributor and are hoping for it. But, we aren't counting on that coming to fruition, esp in his rookie year, and would consider moving him in the right deal. Seems pretty level-headed.
Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:So as a Celtic fan I'm obligated to like and defend every single Celtic draft selection? I can't have an opinion on a guy unless it's a positive one? Of course I want him to succeed, he's going to be a member of the squad unless he's dealt. I'm not rooting against a Celtic just so I can say that my opinion on a message board was right, I just don't think he has what it takes to succeed in the NBA. He's an undersized 4 who's an average athlete isn't quick enough to guard 3's and frankly is a total zero on defense period right now.
The rest of your post is just drivel, talent evaluation is far from an exact science and even professionals get it wrong as often as weathermen do. And if you want to debate a topic don't use the you haven't seen him play nonsense. The highlight videos are all right here in this very thread and I've been able to find a few full games of his as well.
Sure you are entitled to your opinion, but you have no basis for the things you say other than his size at the preferred position is on the shorter side. But the game is being played smaller, just look at the Warriors and the role Green plays there, or Kawhi Lenard on the Spurs. No I am not saying that Yabs is as good as they are, but who knows. You have no ability to judge his defence capabilities without seeing them for yourself, even then I doubt you would know good defence.
I think you base your opinion on his size and the fact he is playing in China and nothing more. Which frankly makes your opinion not worth much, as you can see by most of the other posters thinking the same.
It is not personal at all. I just find it annoying that people can say anything without a real basis to say it. Using the Donald Trump because I say it makes it so. Sure you can think he won't make it because he looks fat and small, but both those things are not correct
Well, you're wrong. And clearly this topic is very personal for you as you can't even debate the topic at hand without slinging insults. I don't give a rats ass what you think of my opinion, but don't come on here thinking that your opinion is superior to anyone else's. Make your points without being a pretentious A-hole
Celtic King wrote:djFan71 wrote:Celtic King wrote:No. Because you have no direct evidence for your negative opinion. It is an opinion seeking attention and just hoping to be right for bragging rights. You say you want him to succeed but claim he won't. Covering yourself no matter what happens.
I have been a owner of a team in a professional league and my coaching staff are coaching Yabs now, so I have a decent idea of what makes a player when I see it for myself, and I have seen this kid up live more than once as well as take the opinion of the professionals who coach him and I know what they think of him as a person, and player. He is a gamer and has what it takes to make it in the big show. At what level well, we will all have to wait and see, but a bust, he is not.
Go to china and see him play and then tell me if your opinion is the same? Have you even watched a game online? I doubt it. So what do you base your learnered opinion on?
It's awesome you have & shared this info, but Homer's being pretty fair in his opinion in my opinion. A 6'7" power forward historically has the deck stacked against them. Sure, there are examples of starter, even star level players with that combination. But, it's rare. He's fighthing uphill from day 1. I think we'd all love for Yabs to beat the odds and be a major contributor and are hoping for it. But, we aren't counting on that coming to fruition, esp in his rookie year, and would consider moving him in the right deal. Seems pretty level-headed.
In no way am I saying he is going to be a star or even a starter in the NBA. But I am very confident that he is going to be a successful player in the NBA on a roster, hopefully ours. I would play him on our roster instead of Mickey, Green or maybe even Jerebko who could be worth something in a trade.
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Yabusele is Anthony Bennett minus the lofty expectations of being drafted 1st overall. Same build, same strengths. Meh. I won't get my hopes up.
Homerclease wrote:Celtic King wrote:Homerclease wrote:I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out
Really, you have no idea what you are talking about related to Yabusele.
Why, because my opinion is different than yours?