Where is Nerlens?

[spikeslovechild]

Noel has significantly improved his shooting. If he can continue to get better at that, and in time add a decent 3 pointer

Prokafor are extinct, but man this is even worse level of delusional.

Well he did improve his shooting. His form looks nice. He has shown ability to hit open J's. I also have seen him hit a clean 3 once but it didnt count...

I think we need more data but it has been encouraging.

[ankle420breaker]

Playing some lazy basketball as of late. Struggled to guard Dedmond tonight...

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[Ericb5]

Noel has significantly improved his shooting. If he can continue to get better at that, and in time add a decent 3 pointer

Prokafor are extinct, but man this is even worse level of delusional.

Great take genius. Here, process this - Noel shooting stats:

14-15: .462 FG, .609 FT, .493 TS
15-16: .521 FG, .590 FT, .544 TS
16-17: .591 FG, .708 FT, .620 TS

You don't honestly think that he will ever make 3 pointers though so you?

Deandre Jordan has a ridiculously high TS%, but he isn't going to make 3's.


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[Arsenal]

Prokafor are extinct, but man this is even worse level of delusional.

Great take genius. Here, process this - Noel shooting stats:

14-15: .462 FG, .609 FT, .493 TS
15-16: .521 FG, .590 FT, .544 TS
16-17: .591 FG, .708 FT, .620 TS

You don't honestly think that he will ever make 3 pointers though so you?

Deandre Jordan has a ridiculously high TS%, but he isn't going to make 3's.


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It's disingenuous to compare a 28 year old DeAndre Jordan who shoots 50% from the FT line in his 9th season (43% for his career) with Noel who is over 70% in his 3rd year at age 22 and has shown a clear trend of improvement every year.

Noel is a MUCH better shooter now at age 22 than Jordan is at age 28, and is improving every year. If he continues improving he may be able to shoot 3 pointers decently in a few years. He's already shooting well this year (50%) from 16-23 feet, albeit a small sample size.

Anyone with 2 functioning eyes can see how much Noel has improved as a shooter this year. Further improvement is certainly not out of the question.

[ankle420breaker]

Noel can knock down the occasional wide open jumper. That doesn't mean he's on his way to being a decent 3 point shooter.

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[Ericb5]

Great take genius. Here, process this - Noel shooting stats:

14-15: .462 FG, .609 FT, .493 TS
15-16: .521 FG, .590 FT, .544 TS
16-17: .591 FG, .708 FT, .620 TS

You don't honestly think that he will ever make 3 pointers though so you?

Deandre Jordan has a ridiculously high TS%, but he isn't going to make 3's.


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It's disingenuous to compare a 28 year old DeAndre Jordan who shoots 50% from the FT line in his 9th season (43% for his career) with Noel who is over 70% in his 3rd year at age 22 and has shown a clear trend of improvement every year.

Noel is a MUCH better shooter now at age 22 than Jordan is at age 28, and is improving every year. If he continues improving he may be able to shoot 3 pointers decently in a few years. He's already shooting well this year (50%) from 16-23 feet, albeit a small sample size.

Anyone with 2 functioning eyes can see how much Noel has improved as a shooter this year. Further improvement is certainly not out of the question.

I think you are kidding yourself if you ever see Noel being a shooter from distance with any consistency. Yes, he has improved in hitting the wide open midrange shots, but he is still being left alone there by the defense.

Noel's form is really bad and his release is slow as hell.


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[Sportfan73]

You don't honestly think that he will ever make 3 pointers though so you?

Deandre Jordan has a ridiculously high TS%, but he isn't going to make 3's.


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It's disingenuous to compare a 28 year old DeAndre Jordan who shoots 50% from the FT line in his 9th season (43% for his career) with Noel who is over 70% in his 3rd year at age 22 and has shown a clear trend of improvement every year.

Noel is a MUCH better shooter now at age 22 than Jordan is at age 28, and is improving every year. If he continues improving he may be able to shoot 3 pointers decently in a few years. He's already shooting well this year (50%) from 16-23 feet, albeit a small sample size.

Anyone with 2 functioning eyes can see how much Noel has improved as a shooter this year. Further improvement is certainly not out of the question.

I think you are kidding yourself if you ever see Noel being a shooter from distance with any consistency. Yes, he has improved in hitting the wide open midrange shots, but he is still being left alone there by the defense.

Noel's form is really bad and his release is slow as hell.


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His end all goal for his jumper should be Taj imo. And that is asking A LOT


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[sixerswillrule]

It's disingenuous to compare a 28 year old DeAndre Jordan who shoots 50% from the FT line in his 9th season (43% for his career) with Noel who is over 70% in his 3rd year at age 22 and has shown a clear trend of improvement every year.

Noel is a MUCH better shooter now at age 22 than Jordan is at age 28, and is improving every year. If he continues improving he may be able to shoot 3 pointers decently in a few years. He's already shooting well this year (50%) from 16-23 feet, albeit a small sample size.

Anyone with 2 functioning eyes can see how much Noel has improved as a shooter this year. Further improvement is certainly not out of the question.

70% from the line and 40% from mid-range would be the further improvement. The sample size is tiny for both so far, definitely not enough to be calling it a trend - especially since there was so such trend in his 2nd year. I'm 99.9% sure he'll never be someone who regularly attempts threes, let alone decent at making them.

[spikeslovechild]

Prokafor are extinct, but man this is even worse level of delusional.

Great take genius. Here, process this - Noel shooting stats:

14-15: .462 FG, .609 FT, .493 TS
15-16: .521 FG, .590 FT, .544 TS
16-17: .591 FG, .708 FT, .620 TS

You don't honestly think that he will ever make 3 pointers though so you?

Deandre Jordan has a ridiculously high TS%, but he isn't going to make 3's.

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Also TS% is a poor way to evaluate whether or not someone jumper is improving. I mean most of that "improvement" was him shooting less jumpers and finishing more around the basket. This year though you seeing improvement in some other areas that are good indicators of an improving jumper like his FT% but it's still way too early to make a determination. There are also some troubling indicators as well. Like he is still shooting very few jumpers. If his jumpshot has taken this big leap and it's real why isn't he letting it fly?

Just to do some real math. This year 62.4 percent of his shots are 3 feet or less (actually higher then his career average of 51.4%). He's only taken 141 FGA total. So when you say he's improved his jumpshooting you are basing that on around 50 shots total he's had this season greater then 3 feet.

[Sixerscan]

I think his jumper has improved but that's largely based on Watching the Games (TM) and his form. We'll see if both his form and the numbers are sustainable.

[Sixerscan]

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5th in the league in FG%, 13th among centers in PER, 28th in RPM. Team has a slight net positive on off with him on the court (which is pretty impressive considering he rarely played with Embiid)

He's putting in a starting quality year so far. Good to see him progress after that slight stepback last year. He's never going to have the offensive versatility to be a star but if you use his limited abilities on that end in the right way and let him go nuts on defense he will be a very valuable player in this league for a long time.

[SparksFly87]

Nerlens future role should be starting PF alongside Embiid and back up 5. All indications suggest he can be elite in this role. 1. He does clog up lane for Embiid. 2. He is elite steals on perimeter so he can certainly defend 4's. 3. PF size, agility and quickness.

[Unbreakable99]

Nerlens future role should be starting PF alongside Embiid and back up 5. All indications suggest he can be elite in this role. 1. He does clog up lane for Embiid. 2. He is elite steals on perimeter so he can certainly defend 4's. 3. PF size, agility and quickness.

I can't see Noel as a starting 4 with Simmons on the team. Simmons is the starting 4. Saric is the backup 4. Noel's best position is the 5. He should play there.

[Sportfan73]

Nerlens future role should be starting PF alongside Embiid and back up 5. All indications suggest he can be elite in this role. 1. He does clog up lane for Embiid. 2. He is elite steals on perimeter so he can certainly defend 4's. 3. PF size, agility and quickness.

I can't see Noel as a starting 4 with Simmons on the team. Simmons is the starting 4. Saric is the backup 4. Noel's best position is the 5. He should play there.

I think there is a real scenario where saric becomes so good that Ben is the 3 Dario the 4 and Jojo the 5.


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[Ericb5]

Nerlens future role should be starting PF alongside Embiid and back up 5. All indications suggest he can be elite in this role. 1. He does clog up lane for Embiid. 2. He is elite steals on perimeter so he can certainly defend 4's. 3. PF size, agility and quickness.

I can't see Noel as a starting 4 with Simmons on the team. Simmons is the starting 4. Saric is the backup 4. Noel's best position is the 5. He should play there.

I think there is a real scenario where saric becomes so good that Ben is the 3 Dario the 4 and Jojo the 5.


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Not impossible. The flexibility of Simmons and Saric make that a possibility.




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[Unbreakable99]

Nerlens future role should be starting PF alongside Embiid and back up 5. All indications suggest he can be elite in this role. 1. He does clog up lane for Embiid. 2. He is elite steals on perimeter so he can certainly defend 4's. 3. PF size, agility and quickness.

I can't see Noel as a starting 4 with Simmons on the team. Simmons is the starting 4. Saric is the backup 4. Noel's best position is the 5. He should play there.

I think there is a real scenario where saric becomes so good that Ben is the 3 Dario the 4 and Jojo the 5.


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Possible. I like what I see in Saric so far. I did like what I saw from Simmons guarding on the perimeter in summer league. I think Simmons might possess the quickness to guard 3s but I still think his best position to max out his potential will always be PF.

[AdotSmoove]

I can't see Noel as a starting 4 with Simmons on the team. Simmons is the starting 4. Saric is the backup 4. Noel's best position is the 5. He should play there.

I think there is a real scenario where saric becomes so good that Ben is the 3 Dario the 4 and Jojo the 5.


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Possible. I like what I see in Saric so far. I did like what I saw from Simmons guarding on the perimeter in summer league. I think Simmons might possess the quickness to guard 3s but I still think his best position to max out his potential will always be PF.

As a PF which of Simmons skills are maximized?


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[Unbreakable99]

I think there is a real scenario where saric becomes so good that Ben is the 3 Dario the 4 and Jojo the 5.


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Possible. I like what I see in Saric so far. I did like what I saw from Simmons guarding on the perimeter in summer league. I think Simmons might possess the quickness to guard 3s but I still think his best position to max out his potential will always be PF.

As a PF which of Simmons skills are maximized?


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Rebounding because he should be closer to the basket. Guarding a slower less mobile player.

[TTP]

Doubt Saric becomes a starter for us, especially with our current personnel. I think Sixers fans are overrating him a bit too. He's been decent and improving lately but has been pretty poor for the entire season. I think his best case scenario is sixth man as one of the offensive/playmaking leaders of the second unit. He does pair decently well with Nerlens though.

[Sixerfan86]

Nerlens future role should be starting PF alongside Embiid and back up 5. All indications suggest he can be elite in this role. 1. He does clog up lane for Embiid. 2. He is elite steals on perimeter so he can certainly defend 4's. 3. PF size, agility and quickness.

I think this is sixers fans way of trying to rationalize matching brooklyns inevitable max contract offer too noel.

Noel is a good player. Heck, in the next few years he can become very good. But max contracts never work out for teams on players who are not truly elite, much less on a guy who happens to play the same position as our clearly best player.

Sixers fans need to realize that Noel on a max contrat is a net negative. Could we pay him whatever the next few years and still get away with it given our other contracts? Yeah, probably. But the smart move is use the would-be noel money elswhere. Trading Noel for a late first doesnt do it for more. I hold Noel... even if he helps us move from 5th pick to 3rd pick in draft,hes worth it. If we lose him for nothing, it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world.

The process was always about finding guys like embiid who are clear cut max guys, as opposed to very good but not dominant guys like Noel who cost you max money.