The Trade Thread II

[pepe1991]

People still here dream about Jimmy Butler?

Yes please.

Gordon, Ibaka's expiring and the Magic's 2017 and 2019 firsts. PLEASE let this be real. the Magic could even swallow Robin Lopez's deal to sweeten the pot (by adding Green and Meeks as further expirings).


The result would be a core around Payton, Fournier, Butler and Vučević. The FA market could bring in a good PF.

This Magic roster is starting to look like it could sniff 40 wins and has a great deal of growth left to be found.

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If you are Bulls wouldn't you try for Celtics rights on Nets swap, Brown and Zeller ? From hoops hype rumors about Anthony Celtics are focused on Paul Geroge or Jimmy Butler , and have little interest in Melo.

[OrlandoNed]

I just don't think Hennigan isn't as dumb as you guys think and feel as he has a legitimate plan.

It doesn't matter how legitimate your plan is if you either can't pull it off or you do and it fails. The NBA is a results based, make or miss league in both managing and playing. Either make it work or you will be replaced.

[BlueMagician]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

[OrlandoNed]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

You are out of your mind if you think that package gets Butler.

[pepe1991]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

That's a group of scrubs and 3 months rental along with pick that ,because we have 30 games left, could even be non lottery pick.

[BlueMagician]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

You are out of your mind if you think that package gets Butler.

So you don't think giving them appx $40 in cap space next year, a potential top 7 draft pick, and AG would be a serious offer? If that is "out of your mind thinking", we should stop talking about Butler for good.

[BlueMagician]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

That's a group of scrubs and 3 months rental along with pick that ,because we have 30 games left, could even be non lottery pick.

Those "scrubs" are referred to a expiring contracts. That is the only reason they are in the deal.

[pepe1991]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

You are out of your mind if you think that package gets Butler.

So you don't think giving them appx $40 in cap space next year, a potential top 7 draft pick, and AG would be a serious offer? If that is "out of your mind thinking", we should stop talking about Butler for good.

Um you do know, that if you make that trade around allstar game that Magic will have line up of Payton - Fournier-Butler-Wade- Gordon-Vučević that can pull up that team for like 35-38 wins and actually make playoffs? East is garbage, as bad as Magic are, Pistons , Bucks and Hornets are not that far off. Hornets in last 7 games lost 6, Pistons are joke. That pick, if you add Magic enough value, has so little value if Magic are picking between 14-17 in draft. That's borderline lottery pick.

[OrlandoNed]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

You are out of your mind if you think that package gets Butler.

So you don't think giving them appx $40 in cap space next year, a potential top 7 draft pick, and AG would be a serious offer? If that is "out of your mind thinking", we should stop talking about Butler for good.

If you were including Gordon, then add him to the list you made. It's kind of obvious that they'd want Gordon for Wade and Butler. There is no way 4 expirings and a nice 1st will net you a past-his-prime HOFer and a several time all-star in his prime. Most likely even with Gordon, the Bulls won't go for it.

[tiderulz]

People still here dream about Jimmy Butler?

Yes please.

Gordon, Ibaka's expiring and the Magic's 2017 and 2019 firsts. PLEASE let this be real. the Magic could even swallow Robin Lopez's deal to sweeten the pot (by adding Green and Meeks as further expirings).


The result would be a core around Payton, Fournier, Butler and Vučević. The FA market could bring in a good PF.

This Magic roster is starting to look like it could sniff 40 wins and has a great deal of growth left to be found.

..

with contracts on the books and no 1st round picks for a few years, where would that growth come from? I like Butler, but that is too much

[magicfan4life88]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

not going to lie, I do kinda like that trade but who is our 4 after that? maybe we can sign Blake in the offseason?

[LBPTarHeel27]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

not going to lie, I do kinda like that trade but who is our 4 after that? maybe we can sign Blake in the offseason?

Of course you "kind of like" that trade. It is absurdly in our favor.

[magicfan4life88]

People still here dream about Jimmy Butler?

Yes please.

Gordon, Ibaka's expiring and the Magic's 2017 and 2019 firsts. PLEASE let this be real. the Magic could even swallow Robin Lopez's deal to sweeten the pot (by adding Green and Meeks as further expirings).


The result would be a core around Payton, Fournier, Butler and Vučević. The FA market could bring in a good PF.

This Magic roster is starting to look like it could sniff 40 wins and has a great deal of growth left to be found.

..

with contracts on the books and no 1st round picks for a few years, where would that growth come from? I like Butler, but that is too much

im thinking the growth he may be referring to is Payton and Fournier, they are still young, we still have Zimmerman and Vuc, and then the team can grow with FA signings

[magicfan4life88]

If the Bulls are willing to part with Butler, I have to think they are in full rebuild mode at that point and would want salary cap relief and draft picks, both of which the Magic could offer. Boston would definitely have a leg up on us if they wanted to try and outbid though. If the Bulls deal Butler, I have to think that Wade is also going to be out of town as well. Since they like playing with each other so much, why not take them both?

In:
Wade
Butler

Out:
Ibaka
Meeks
Green
Watson
Magic 2017 1st

They may want Gordon in that deal, which would be really tough to go through with, but the Magic need a legitimate star to build around. Gordon is the only guy that has some potential to do that, but we have been living off potential for too long.

not going to lie, I do kinda like that trade but who is our 4 after that? maybe we can sign Blake in the offseason?

Of course you "kind of like" that trade. It is absurdly in our favor.

what I mean is I kinda like that even if it involves AG and it helps the bulls have the opportunity to sign a couple max players

[crazytown]

Celts are interested in Butler and they have way more assets.

We're gonna have to do bettee than some expirings and a borderline lottery pick

[magicfan4life88]

I feel like Boston might be interested in a trade of Ibaka, Greens expiring, meeks expiring, marios potential, our pick this year, for crowder and the brklyn pick, theres no way ibaka doesn't resign with them, they get 2 lottery picks in Mario and our pick and they get 2 expirings to give them some cap this offseason

[BlueMagician]

Celts are interested in Butler and they have way more assets.

We're gonna have to do bettee than some expirings and a borderline lottery pick

What is your suggestion?

[teefbe]

People, if Butler or George or any other legitimate all star was available they would be going to Boston. Celtics have every asset in the world to outbid rest of the league, deal with it.

[Jiwol]

People, if Butler or George or any other legitimate all star was available they would be going to Boston. Celtics have every asset in the world to outbid rest of the league, deal with it.

Do they have this?

[Furinkazan]

People, if Butler or George or any other legitimate all star was available they would be going to Boston. Celtics have every asset in the world to outbid rest of the league, deal with it.

yeah on paper they do...but Ainge doesnt want to part with that pick no matter what