payitforward wrote:I'm the opposite of a Brandon Knight fan, nat. Moreover, he has a huge long-term contract that we couldn't absorb. It would hamstring us.
Collison is expiring, but I don't think Sac'to would take Nicholson/Burke for him. In fact, as nate has observed, Nicholson's such a bad player that to deal him we'd have to up the ante considerably w/ at least 1 R1 pick (depending on whom we were getting back of course).
I like Barton but not for any deal involving a R1 pick. Lou is having a terrific season, but... it's the same problem, really -- I just don't see a deal that helps enough now but doesn't mess up our future.
IMO, we should be happy w/ current success, ride it as far as we can this season, & keep building w/ youth. If we do a good job (and are lucky) we may have some kind of shot at a title somewhere in the next few years. At least at an EC championship. I don't think we have that now, & I do think if we trade the future we still won't have it now, & we won't have it later either.
Pif let me ask you something, I know a lot of people dismissed my logic on the plumlee deal being the reason mahinmi could be traded. that point can be contested. But, does that logic not work fine with nicholson. What was plumlee, a young healthy underachieving over paid player. what is nicholson a young healthy underachieving over paid player, but on a much cheaper deal. Why is i so far fetched that we can find a deal like that. I think Darron Williams or JJ from dallas for nicholson and a second or two would probably get the deal done. They have so many PGs on the roaster and their PF depth is thin powell and dirk are all they got. They won't resign him next year in all likely hood why not move him and get something out of him. He would at least be better than buke and help us clear some cap next year. Hell maybe he resigns with us on a vet deal if we make a good run in the play offs. plus he might stay more healthy playing less minutes off the bench.
On ibaka, if he can play some center minutes, you can play him 25-30 minutes off the bench and not upset the chemistry of the team. he would hold down our bench in rebounding and help the defense a lot and not hurt our cap next year. if we can talk them into Nicholson and burke and a 2018 or 2019 pick ( the cavs did it with korver)? Why not rent him to make a run, we still keep our pick in a loaded draft this year and would have the cap savings of loosing Nicholson. they might not take it but there is a possibility that we be the only team willing to give up a first for a rental and they might take it to save face.
Same with the Lou williams deal, if you can get them to take Nicholson and a 2018 unprotected first. don't you do it, they might not but if they do why not do that trade.
I understand the fear of trading 2017 which ive said Id be fine with while EG is doing the drafting.
if you do the Lou or D will trade, would you shop burke and something like a second around to see if you could pick up a guy like Caspi or the other morris brother or sign derrick williams and just cut burke?
Like im wondering if you would be willings to trade 1 future pick first and some seconds to upgrade the bench if its not involving our 2017. cuz seconds while valuable can be bought and 1 first is not leveraging to much of our future.
