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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#721 » by LBPTarHeel27 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:59 pm

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I mean...if we are going to trade him, I think we can all agree that Brown is the best option out there...if that is really an option.
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Post#723 » by dsg2021 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:22 pm

Someone enlighten me about Jaylen Brown. He looks like a **** player, and AG looks 10x better...

I honestly don't want Ibaka traded. Give him a good contract, and **** Boston and these other teams' low ball offers.

As soon as Ibaka is signed long term, and especially if the Magic become a playoff team again, watch as Ibaka becomes the unicorn PF that ORL doesn't want to trade, and everyone else wants again.
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Post#724 » by Melvinlocker » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:30 pm

If we can grab Terrence Ross and Lucas Nougeria for Ibaka, then we have made out pretty well IMO.

Lucas is a 24 year old center who is playing 20+ minutes on a really good playoff team. Great finisher and shot blocker. Ross is what he is. A rotation player on a contender. Doesn't need the dribble to be effective (good complement to Elf). I'd be surprised if we could get much better.
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Post#725 » by Mc-o » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:34 pm

dsg2021 wrote:Someone enlighten me about Jaylen Brown. He looks like a **** player, and AG looks 10x better...

I honestly don't want Ibaka traded. Give him a good contract, and **** Boston and these other teams' low ball offers.

As soon as Ibaka is signed long term, and especially if the Magic become a playoff team again, watch as Ibaka becomes the unicorn PF that ORL doesn't want to trade, and everyone else wants again.

I don't think ibaka wants to stay, that's why they are trying to trade him, im sure if he tells him he will resign then rob wouldn't trade him.
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Post#726 » by OrlandoMagic » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:41 pm

The main point I got from that tweet is we have other packages. If that's the case I'm thinking we make atleast "A" trade
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#727 » by Xatticus » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:42 pm

I don't find Brown particularly appealing either. He was drafted third last year, so he still has that fresh prospect smell, but I'm not sure what makes him special. He is an athletic and active wing with questionable technical skills. If he wasn't taken third overall (in a weak draft) or getting some minutes on a good Boston team (Stevens can get some production out of anyone), I don't think he carries the same perceived value. Maybe I'm wrong, but I see a glorified Mo Harkless or Justice Winslow right now. I wouldn't be too bothered if Boston said they wouldn't part with him for Ibaka.
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Post#728 » by melasdas » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:54 pm

Brown? Another player who cant shoot? Nice Rob
Id rather have Powell.
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Post#729 » by drsd » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:16 pm

It is interesting seeing Ibaka's value increase with a growing list of interested trade partners. As for Jaylen Brown, the Magic need to improve at SF. But I am not sure he is a fit. His poor shooting (and worse shot selection) can already be found in Gordon.

Payton/Fournier/Brown/Gordon/Vučević , that is an unbalanced starting five.


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Post#730 » by j-ragg » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:22 pm

Boston isn't giving their 3rd pick away for months of Ibaka. I wish they would. But the team is competing so he hasn't played much.

In Gordon's rookie year would you guys have traded him for an expiring big man that might or might not help us get farther?
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Post#731 » by MoMM » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:32 pm

j-ragg wrote:Boston isn't giving their 3rd pick away for months of Ibaka. I wish they would. But the team is competing so he hasn't played much.

In Gordon's rookie year would you guys have traded him for an expiring big man that might or might not help us get farther?

We should ask for Zizic, makes much more sense for us.
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Post#732 » by Xatticus » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:33 pm

j-ragg wrote:Boston isn't giving their 3rd pick away for months of Ibaka. I wish they would. But the team is competing so he hasn't played much.

In Gordon's rookie year would you guys have traded him for an expiring big man that might or might not help us get farther?


I get what you are saying from a value standpoint, but I'm not particularly interested in Brown regardless. So it matters not to me. I don't expect we will trade Ibaka to Boston anyway. The market is too robust and Ainge is a miser. I have a tough time imagining that he will actually come up with the best offer. They could've had Butler a long time ago, but Ainge is reluctant to part with anything.
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Post#733 » by j-ragg » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:57 pm

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j-ragg wrote:Boston isn't giving their 3rd pick away for months of Ibaka. I wish they would. But the team is competing so he hasn't played much.

In Gordon's rookie year would you guys have traded him for an expiring big man that might or might not help us get farther?


I get what you are saying from a value standpoint, but I'm not particularly interested in Brown regardless. So it matters not to me. I don't expect we will trade Ibaka to Boston anyway. The market is too robust and Ainge is a miser. I have a tough time imagining that he will actually come up with the best offer. They could've had Butler a long time ago, but Ainge is reluctant to part with anything.

Totally agree. Might not be the best fit but the value certainly exceeds Ibaka IMO.

I don't think Ibaka is even a great fit in Boston. They need a rim protector but even more someone who will keep Tristan Thompson off the glass.
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Post#734 » by npiper17 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:57 pm

Brown doesn't appeal to me either.

We should be targeting a mid to high first rounder. It's about time we used Matt Lloyd's scouting ability and actually developed a player for once.
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Post#735 » by Furinkazan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:57 pm

Darth Magic wrote:
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3 team trade
raptors get Carmelo and Ibaka
knicks gets Ross Carroll and 1st
Magic gets Sullinger and Jospeh XD oh and a 2nd dont forget 2nd

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why for the magic
it gives them another point guard to try out :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#736 » by ChosenSavior » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:19 pm

~Snoopy~ wrote:
Darth Magic wrote:
~Snoopy~ wrote:love Raptors board trade thread ideas :) they will make your day

3 team trade
raptors get Carmelo and Ibaka
knicks gets Ross Carroll and 1st
Magic gets Sullinger and Jospeh XD oh and a 2nd dont forget 2nd

:banghead:


btw about Joseph
They comment it like this
why for the magic
it gives them another point guard to try out :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:rofl:

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Post#737 » by tiderulz » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:39 pm

Melvinlocker wrote:If we can grab Terrence Ross and Lucas Nougeria for Ibaka, then we have made out pretty well IMO.

Lucas is a 24 year old center who is playing 20+ minutes on a really good playoff team. Great finisher and shot blocker. Ross is what he is. A rotation player on a contender. Doesn't need the dribble to be effective (good complement to Elf). I'd be surprised if we could get much better.

5 ppg. 5 rpg in 20 mins, just looks like a back up center. not seeing anything special
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Post#738 » by Audi » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:45 pm

So essentially Boston believes Brown does more to make them contenders in the east than Vuc or even Ibaka would? Something doesn't jive there. I could understand if you are taking the long haul approach and are reluctant to let go of a possible prospect, but in terms of impact now?Makes no sense unless they aren't actually interested in a chip in the short term?
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Post#739 » by gambitx777 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:53 pm

Wizards fan here, coming in peace. but just to set the tone for you.
Korver, a 35 year old former all star on a 1 year deal went for a heavily protected 2019 first that has the potential to never get paid out and some filler contracts nothing of real value. Tim hardaway JR, a young SG on a 1 year deal could not be traded when they were asking for a 2ed round pick for him because msot teams anticipate him being over paid or having to over pay to keep him. the bucks dumped Plumlee on a terribly over paid contract and he went for hawes and hibbert. to short term cheap contracts and they did not have to give up any picks.

Thats is the market price right now. Ibaka probably is not staying any where he get's moved to and unless he signs an extension he is probably worth about what Korver went for or maybe just a little more. Probably a 2018 or 2019 pick probably small protection or unprotected and filler contracts or a redundant young guy with the filler and a future protected pick. You probably are not going to get a cash of young promising guys or star or a 2017 pick. Hes 27, already in decline, but still productive enough, can play good D and play two positions. He can help a team in the play off hunt, but there are not going to be a lot of offers offering you what you paid out for him because teams are only getting a couple months of him, with no promise of him staying, and there are teams out there that will have cap room to burn in the summer who will toss a huge close to max deal at him and none of those teams are they ones trying to trade for him the only team that might is boston.
He probably will get moved because at this point you have to, he won't stay too many better teams will be willing to pay him more money that you can offer him. Take what you can get and run with it. But that's just me and my 2 cents. I really do hope someone over pays for him thought for your sake, I would love to see you guys pull of a heist! I just hope its not the wizards over paying!
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Post#740 » by Furinkazan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:59 pm

gambitx777 wrote:Wizards fan here, coming in peace. but just to set the tone for you.
Korver, a 35 year old former all star on a 1 year deal went for a heavily protected 2019 first that has the potential to never get paid out and some filler contracts nothing of real value. Tim hardaway JR, a young SG on a 1 year deal could not be traded when they were asking for a 2ed round pick for him because msot teams anticipate him being over paid or having to over pay to keep him. the bucks dumped Plumlee on a terribly over paid contract and he went for hawes and hibbert. to short term cheap contracts and they did not have to give up any picks.

Thats is the market price right now. Ibaka probably is not staying any where he get's moved to and unless he signs an extension he is probably worth about what Korver went for or maybe just a little more. Probably a 2018 or 2019 pick probably small protection or unprotected and filler contracts or a redundant young guy with the filler and a future protected pick. You probably are not going to get a cash of young promising guys or star or a 2017 pick. Hes 27, already in decline, but still productive enough, can play good D and play two positions. He can help a team in the play off hunt, but there are not going to be a lot of offers offering you what you paid out for him because teams are only getting a couple months of him, with no promise of him staying, and there are teams out there that will have cap room to burn in the summer who will toss a huge close to max deal at him and none of those teams are they ones trying to trade for him the only team that might is boston.
He probably will get moved because at this point you have to, he won't stay too many better teams will be willing to pay him more money that you can offer him. Take what you can get and run with it. But that's just me and my 2 cents. I really do hope someone over pays for him thought for your sake, I would love to see you guys pull of a heist! I just hope its not the wizards over paying!

I tend to disagree.Ill show you out.

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