Source: Bulls seeking 1st rounder for Doug or Lopez

MC3 · Post #1 » by **MC3** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:49 am

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chicago-bulls-exploring-trade-market/

Sources: Bulls are exploring trade market for a 1st round pick in exchange for either Robin Lopez or Doug McDermott.

first great news in while.

League Circles · Post #2 » by **League Circles** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:14 am

Good news. Not surprising for me. Cris is obviously the better C going forward IMO and could likely be signed for less than Lopez makes. And his cap hold is tiny so moving Lopez could really help us in FA.

Moving Doug now would be very wise as his value will go down from now until the end of next year most likely due to contract status.

Post #3 » by **Rerisen** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:16 am

Getting a top 15 pick for Doug would be a coup. Top 20, ok.

Lopez should be less difficult.

I don't think it has to hurt our playoff chances either. Fred is just shuffling similar level players around night to night anyway, none are head and shoulders above each other. Just focus on giving Cris and Zipster minutes instead, you're probably not losing much unless we have injuries.

riprose · Post #4 » by **riprose** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:17 am

we gave up 2 first rounds for MC3....

TyrusRose2425 · Post #5 » by **TyrusRose2425** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:17 am

Lopez is just so incredibly average

League Circles · Post #6 » by **League Circles** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:18 am

Rerisen wrote:Getting a top 15 pick for Doug would be a coup. Top 20, ok.

Lopez should be less difficult.

Well the big problem with moving Lopez is that you likely have to take back some pretty big salary. Expirings and a first round pick and I'm all over it. Though I'd prefer to package Doug, Lopez and a pick for a PG.

Post #7 » by **Rerisen** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:19 am

League Circles wrote:
Rerisen wrote:Getting a top 15 pick for Doug would be a coup. Top 20, ok.

Lopez should be less difficult.

Well the big problem with moving Lopez is that you likely have to take back some pretty big salary. Expirings and a first round pick and I'm all over it. Though I'd prefer to package Doug, Lopez and a pick for a PG.

Yep as long as its expiring that's fine.

Bring E'twaun Moore home.

Red8911 · Post #8 » by **Red8911** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:24 am

Why exactly do they want a first round pick? Doing a trade like this won't help the team out this season,unless they need it for a separate deal? Idk but so far it's been all talk and no action,they havent done anything and if those players are eventually leaving,how do you expect them to play well tomorrow night.

Post #9 » by **fleet** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:26 am

If true, tells me they intend to stay in this draft, even if Okafor is aquired. Which also verifies the report that the Sixers are demanding a 1st rounder and a player.

League Circles · Post #10 » by **League Circles** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:26 am

Red8911 wrote:Why exactly do they want a first round pick? Doing a trade like this won't help the team out this season,unless they need it for a separate deal? Idk but so far it's been all talk and no action,they havent done anything and if those players are eventually leaving,how do you expect them to play well tomorrow night.

I'm guessing Philly wants a pick but Bulls want in on the allleged deep draft so they don't want to deal their own. So they want to get a pick, and trade either it or their own along with a player like Doug for Okafor.

NADROJ · Post #11 » by **NADROJ** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:26 am

TyrusRose2425 wrote:Lopez is just so incredibly average

But, an incredibly average C on a contract that reflects his incredibly average production is valuable.

Dominator83 · Post #12 » by **Dominator83** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:27 am

Nobodys giving up a 1st round pick for Doug

Post #13 » by **DuckIII** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:29 am

Lopez clearly has first round pick value. Doug? Not a given with the way he's looked this season.

League Circles · Post #14 » by **League Circles** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:35 am

I think Doug could very likely still net a later first. He was #6 in the league in 3 pt % last year and has crepttl back up to pretty good shooting numbers this year. That's more than teams usually get out of a later first round pick.

dumbell78 · Post #15 » by **dumbell78** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:35 am

1st rounder for Dougy?

Dominator83 · Post #16 » by **Dominator83** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:53 am

DuckIII wrote:Lopez clearly has first round pick value. Doug? Not a given with the way he's looked this season.

That really depends. Are there any playoff teams that own their pick and need a center? As well as having the contracts to match $$?
Golden State would be a match made in heaven, but I don't think they own their pick

Post #17 » by **RedBulls23** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:10 am

Maybe a late first for Doug. In the 20s.

Mech Engineer · Post #18 » by **Mech Engineer** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:12 am

It is a question of Hoiberg Vs Doug....who is more responsible for his struggles? If a GM believes that Hoiberg sucks at coaching(I have heard reporters who talk to other team scouts say they just don't get what the Bulls are trying to run), they might give a late first.

If they believe Doug sucks, then the Bulls get a 2nd round pick. Gar will still claim he got great value and will cite Isaiah Thomas as an example of any pick being valuable.

MC3 · Post #19 » by **MC3** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:14 am

riprose wrote:we gave up 2 first rounds for MC3....

if you gave up 2 first for me, bulls would be better franchise. this reminds me I'll need soon change my user name.

dice · Post #20 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:23 am

NADROJ wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:Lopez is just so incredibly average

But, an incredibly average C on a contract that reflects his incredibly average production is valuable.

his salary will be around 13% of cap for the next 2 seasons. for a below average starting center that seems reasonable. not sure it's reasonable to give up a first rounder to acquire that contract though