I have zero confidence in van gundy turning this situation around

[davidvolumes]

The team is built on a seriously flawed foundation of drum and reg. Neither is a leader,neither is a star neither makes the players around them better.in addition when van Gundy has been asked what's wrong with the team and how do u fix it he consistently answers, I DONT KNOW. Van Gundy is as much a significant part of the problem as drum and reg.

[El Chivo]

Van Gundy is executing the property's plan. To be competitive, fight for playoff spots and see if something better happens.

I'd rather question his coaching : given we're not trying to compete, at least I'd like my Piston to play watchable and good basketball.

[MotownMadness]

I mean realistically we are a young team with no superstar. There's only so much he can do. Most all the teams that are our age or talent deprived either have worse records or are just as inconsistent as us.

[Kilo]

He built this team and gave the two biggest contracts in Piston history to two no-defense playing mentally weak players. And to add insult to injury their ad campaign is all about Detroit Grind and Detroit Muscle. It's a parody.

[davidvolumes]

If we don't have a superstar then u don't pay players superstar money. You find the whitesides and dedmons of the world and pay them accordingly.

[DBC10]

He built this team and gave the two biggest contracts in Piston history to two no-defense playing mentally weak players. And to add insult to injury their ad campaign is all about Detroit Grind and Detroit Muscle. It's a parody.

Yeah it is pretty comical when you put it that way.

But to give some credit to SVG, we do have tradeable assets with this team. And I don't think he knew how bad RJ would regress this badly along with him being a horrid defender. Same thing with Dre.

[MotownMadness]

If we don't have a superstar then u don't pay players superstar money. You find the whitesides and dedmons of the world and pay them accordingly.

Like it's that easy to just go find the Whitesides of the world. Drummond is 23 and we have no chance of getting good FAs. What choice did we have? He was 22 avg 16 and 15 on a season. If we didn't max him the next team would have in a second.

[MotownMadness]

You guys forget what a mess SVG inherited when he came here? He managed to get rid of all of it without even giving up any picks. We aren't really in that bad of a situation cause we aren't old and we still have all our picks.

[davidvolumes]

I am not trying to discredit van gundys accomplishments or minimize the mess he inherited. All I am saying is for your CEO to say I DONT KNOW WHATS WRONG OR WHY ITS NOT WORKING says to me van Gundy is a significant part of the problem. He put this team together and made dre one of highest paid players in the league. Someone mentioned its not easy to find the whitesides and dedmons. Van Gundy is paid to find those type players. Pop did with dedmon. Lets continue to say to Reggie don't worry about playing defense because we know its not easy.Fwiw I have zero confidence in van Gundy ability going forward.

[MotownMadness]

I am not trying to discredit van gundys accomplishments or minimize the mess he inherited. All I am saying is for your CEO to say I DONT KNOW WHATS WRONG OR WHY ITS NOT WORKING says to me van Gundy is a significant part of the problem. He put this team together and made dre one of highest paid players in the league. Someone mentioned its not easy to find the whitesides and dedmons. Van Gundy is paid to find those type players. Pop did with dedmon. Lets continue to say to Reggie don't worry about playing defense because we know its not easy.Fwiw I have zero confidence in van Gundy ability going forward.

In fairness it's not so much how good Dedmon is but how good of a organization the Spurs are. They are a level ahead of everyone else and turn most nobodies into productive players. But again they have had the right kind of quiet mature superstar in place there for years whether it's Duncan or Kawhi. All they have to do is bring in role players and let them thrive in their system.

We still need that superstar guy who is going to come out playing two way ball every night. Are role players are counted on as main options here instead of just supporting a star.

[bballnmike]

This is ridiculous. Luckily your confidence doesn't matter.

[theBigLip]

You guys forget what a mess SVG inherited when he came here? He managed to get rid of all of it without even giving up any picks. We aren't really in that bad of a situation cause we aren't old and we still have all our picks.

This.

Our roster is actually in really good shape. Young players with potential, no real toxic contracts. It's easy to bitch about RJ, but maybe he is really hurt or needs more recovery time. If that's the case, you can hardly fault SVG. As a matter of fact, you can thank him for being smart enough to be 3 deep with serviceable PGs, unlike in previous years. And both Drummond and RJ can become better players, especially Drummond. And RJ just needs to learn to pass a bit more.

The. Sky. Is. Not. Falling.

[davidvolumes]

Exactly bballmike . No one opinion on this board matters. Not even yours.

[Snakebites]

I think there's a solid chance Reggie is getting moved in the next week.

I base this on virtually nothing, but you can bet that its something they're looking into.

We're all pretty disappointed by the season we're having, but setback years after progress are common. The panic is unwarranted- so far.

[bballnmike]

I guess I'll expand a bit, why would you possibly have zero confidence in him turning this around?

SVG has won every trade he's made here. His free agent signing this summer have been two of our very best players this year. The roster is young with no horrible contracts, yes including Reggie and Drummond.
I think Reggie is still hurt, so trading him now while his value is low doesn't make a ton of sense. Even so, I have no doubt he could be moved at the deadline if we wanted to.
And Drummond, even with his flaws, would have interest from almost every team in the league. There's not a single contract we couldn't move.

Of course he knows what wrong, we're horribly inconsistent, we don't always bring it on defense, and we still need more shooters.

[Billl]

I am not trying to discredit van gundys accomplishments or minimize the mess he inherited. All I am saying is for your CEO to say I DONT KNOW WHATS WRONG OR WHY ITS NOT WORKING says to me van Gundy is a significant part of the problem. He put this team together and made dre one of highest paid players in the league. Someone mentioned its not easy to find the whitesides and dedmons. Van Gundy is paid to find those type players. Pop did with dedmon. Lets continue to say to Reggie don't worry about playing defense because we know its not easy.Fwiw I have zero confidence in van Gundy ability going forward.

So, in your mind, the fact that SVG doesn't publicly throw his players under the bus means he has no idea what is going on?

[hoophabit]

Antony and Cleopatra - "Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite variety. Other women cloy the appetites they feed, but she makes hungry where most she satisfies...
Now that's great drama. This agonizing over whether SVG is capable of running an NBA franchise seems more like farce to me.

[Invictus88]

I'm very happy that the filtering function on these boards is working properly.

[pistontr]

he is overrated as a gm.
"Magic agree to deal Serge Ibaka to Raptors for Terrence Ross, first-round pick". ibaka is exactly what we need.

[In SVG We Trust]

he is overrated as a gm.
"Magic agree to deal Serge Ibaka to Raptors for Terrence Ross, first-round pick". ibaka is exactly what we need.

You're obsessed with Ibaka, have you seen his d**k or something?