Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline?

[bullslas]

Okafor desperately needs a change of scenery but Im glad Colangelo hasnt given him away.

This kid has unique talent, special talent that could blow us all away in a few years time.

Keep Okafor . Dont give him away. No protected picks. Top 8 this year or go take a hike.

You are not getting a player and top 8. Just not going to happen.

[51X3RF4N]

Valentine and a 2018 1st round pick (with some protection on it) is truly a good deal for what Okafor has become. Can't change the past, but the future can still be bright depending on who that 2018 pick turns out to be. And Valentine truly is a good fit next to Simmons in my opinion, regardless of how awful he's been in the limited NBA minutes he's gotten so far.

[Sportfan73]

Valentine and a 2018 1st round pick (with some protection on it) is truly a good deal for what Okafor has become. Can't change the past, but the future can still be bright depending on who that 2018 pick turns out to be. And Valentine truly is a good fit next to Simmons in my opinion, regardless of how awful he's been in the limited NBA minutes he's gotten so far.

Yeah valentine plus whatever is enough for me.


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[TTP]

Okafor desperately needs a change of scenery but Im glad Colangelo hasnt given him away.

This kid has unique talent, special talent that could blow us all away in a few years time.

Keep Okafor . Dont give him away. No protected picks. Top 8 this year or go take a hike.

You are not getting a player and top 8. Just not going to happen.

Expecting a top 8 pick in return for Okafor is a solid example of the Endowment Effect.

[NBA Moses]

Okafor desperately needs a change of scenery but Im glad Colangelo hasnt given him away.

This kid has unique talent, special talent that could blow us all away in a few years time.

Keep Okafor . Dont give him away. No protected picks. Top 8 this year or go take a hike.

You are not getting a player and top 8. Just not going to happen.

Dont believe the Sixers are looking to swap Okafor for players unless it be a very good guard. A high tp mid lottery pick this year is what the price should be for Okafor imo.

[NBA Moses]

Okafor desperately needs a change of scenery but Im glad Colangelo hasnt given him away.

This kid has unique talent, special talent that could blow us all away in a few years time.

Keep Okafor . Dont give him away. No protected picks. Top 8 this year or go take a hike.

You are not getting a player and top 8. Just not going to happen.

Expecting a top 8 pick in return for Okafor is a solid example of the Endowment Effect.

Okafor is highly talented incredibly unique 21 y.o. making peanuts for the next 2 1/2 years dealing with injury/conditioning issues.

Colangelo Dont be a fool and undersell this kid. You may regret it.

Dont be a moron like Eytan Shander and Rob Ellis who wants to take 50 cents on the dollar just to get rid of Okafor

[TTP]

You are not getting a player and top 8. Just not going to happen.

Expecting a top 8 pick in return for Okafor is a solid example of the Endowment Effect.

Okafor is highly talented incredibly unique 21 y.o. dealing with injury/conditioning issues.

Colangelo Dont be a fool and undersell this kid. You may regret it.

Brain injury? His bball IQ is awful on both sides of the ball.

What was his excuse in college when he was similarly awful at defense, rebounding, and shooting?

[Bum Adebayo]

Highly talented? no he is not period. Can't rebound, no defense, no reliable outside shot, low motor. Basically the perfect center.

[Cheatergriffin]

[Cheatergriffin]

Basically out emotions summed up as 76ers fans past couple days

[eyeatoma]

Just woke up... What's the latest on Okafor... anything new, or is BC still running this organization into the ground?

[KKell2507]

I feel like there has to be some contending teams whod be willing to give Okafor a shot, as a scorer off the bench. Like if you are the Washington Wizards and know that you've got a decent shot at the conference finals, wouldnt you want to upgrade that GOD AWFUL bench they have?

Something like where they get Okafor and Sixers get Oubre Jr and their 2018 1st rd pick?

Hawks come to mind too, since Splitter obviousl hasnt worked as a backup to Dwight. Theyve got Bembry and Prince chillin on their bench that could be intriguing to the Sixers, as well as a pick from the Twolves that is lottery protected through 2020.

Just spit balling here, no rumors of it. Just seems like teams like that, who are in the playoffs but could use some more scoring, would be all over getting Okafor to come in for 20 min a game off the bench and get them some easy buckets.

Would rather not corner ourselves with deals with the Bulls or Pelicans when neither sounds all that great. If were going for a young player and lottery protected pick route, might as well call the better playoff teams and see if we can pry a better young payer away and getting the 20-24 pick as opposed to a **** player and the 15-18 pick.

[NBA Moses]

Highly talented? no he is not period. Can't rebound, no defense, no reliable outside shot, low motor. Basically the perfect center.

Okafor is arguably the most skilled offensive low post big man in the NBA. He has extraordinary feet,hands,moves. He was instantaneously double teamed as an NBA Rookie. Thats unheard of. His first game as a rookie vs Boston the Celtic players and coaches were looking at each other like WTH is this? What are we supposed to do with this?

Yes his defense, rebounding, conditioning need alot of work but hes only 21 y.o. he has plenty of time to mature get stronger . And Hes hurt to boot.

You dont give him away for the 17th -20th pick in the draft.

[NBA Moses]

Just woke up... What's the latest on Okafor... anything new, or is BC still running this organization into the ground?

My guess is Colangelo is holding his ground for Okafor which is exactly what he should be doing.

Reserve Price hasnt been met yet.

[agiaco]

Kyler just said on twitter that we have been offered much better than a Mario for Jah straight swap. Not that I think Mario is great he's been awful but nonetheless that is decent news offer wise.


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That guy completely sucks. (not Mario)

[hookshot199]

I feel like I'm talking to the scouts from Moneyball that care about aesthetics and want to sell jeans when I only care about production. Okafor has some appealing aesthetics but it doesn't convert to production. Noel and Holmes are more efficient scorers in the post without the fancy footwork.

Also you mention Okafor's improvement from college to his rookie season but fail to mention his regression this season. His FT% is 62% this season.

I don't understand the logic of the bolded. Point out one improvement from college (that hasn't even improved again in his second season) and some fancy footwork is enough to say someone is not one of the worst players in the league?

I'm sorry you don't like math and numbers but it's the most tangible way to evaluate players. Also you're a bit hypocritical by using one number (his improved FT%) to support your argument that he's not one of the worst players, but then mock me because I use other numbers to argue otherwise.

And you forget that he was injured and put on restricted minutes. Most of the 'prokafor' people have gone part way with you. He's not what we expected. He doesn't seem to play with passion. But you're devaluing to the point where you're not making any sense.

You remind me of my fifth grade teacher. She used to bark orders because we wouldn't bark back.

Basketball 'history' does play into this - a review of draft picks present and past, a review of players with Okafor's unique skill set, obviously not right for the Sixers but not necessarily wrong (it's not black and white) for everybody else.

Enjoy your day. And just remember Clint's advice…

Where have they gone part way? One of the two guys I've argued with has shifted his original position multiple times and refuses to admit it.

I led off my first post going part way with them by saying that it's reasonable to expect him to improve but unreasonable to suggest he hasn't been one of the worst players in the league thus far.

The bolded has nothing to do with the argument. I'm not talking about draft position, history, his skill set, or his fit with us. My singular point is that he has been one of the worst players in the league thus far. Maybe his circumstances are the reason he's been one of the worst - I never suggested otherwise. Injured or not, he's been one of the worst players in the league.

'Thus far' this year? Or 'thus far' in his career? Because the latter would make you sound absolutely ridiculous.

he's been one of the worst players in the league.

This year. Right?

[PhilasFinest]

Highly talented? no he is not period. Can't rebound, no defense, no reliable outside shot, low motor. Basically the perfect center.

Okafor is arguably the most skilled offensive low post big man in the NBA. He has extraordinary feet,hands,moves. He was instantaneously double teamed as an NBA Rookie. Thats unheard of. His first game as a rookie vs Boston the Celtic players and coaches were looking at each other like WTH is this? What are we supposed to do with this?

Yes his defense, rebounding, conditioning need alot of work but hes only 21 y.o. he has plenty of time to mature get stronger . And Hes hurt to boot.

You dont give him away for the 17th -20th pick in the draft.

If Okafor is really in fact hurt, to the extent that he looks like he has gotten worse at nearly everything....then he should be saying something because obviously the overly cautious medical staff has yet to pick up on it.

[Arsenal]

Kyler just said on twitter that we have been offered much better than a Mario for Jah straight swap. Not that I think Mario is great he's been awful but nonetheless that is decent news offer wise.


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That guy completely sucks. (not Mario)

If we get offered Mario plus the 1st that ORL just got for Okafor, I'd pull the trigger assuming I get a good character report from on Mario from Dario. If he won't vouch for Mario as a good teammate, hard worker, etc. then no thanks.

[TTP]

And you forget that he was injured and put on restricted minutes. Most of the 'prokafor' people have gone part way with you. He's not what we expected. He doesn't seem to play with passion. But you're devaluing to the point where you're not making any sense.

You remind me of my fifth grade teacher. She used to bark orders because we wouldn't bark back.

Basketball 'history' does play into this - a review of draft picks present and past, a review of players with Okafor's unique skill set, obviously not right for the Sixers but not necessarily wrong (it's not black and white) for everybody else.

Enjoy your day. And just remember Clint's advice…

Where have they gone part way? One of the two guys I've argued with has shifted his original position multiple times and refuses to admit it.

I led off my first post going part way with them by saying that it's reasonable to expect him to improve but unreasonable to suggest he hasn't been one of the worst players in the league thus far.

The bolded has nothing to do with the argument. I'm not talking about draft position, history, his skill set, or his fit with us. My singular point is that he has been one of the worst players in the league thus far. Maybe his circumstances are the reason he's been one of the worst - I never suggested otherwise. Injured or not, he's been one of the worst players in the league.

'Thus far' this year? Or 'thus far' in his career? Because the latter would make you sound absolutely ridiculous.

he's been one of the worst players in the league.

This year. Right?

He was one of the worst players in the league both last year and this year - thus, his NBA career.

If you're implying that he wasn't one of the worst players in the league last year, you're kidding yourself. He graded 420th out of 424 qualified players in RPM wins last season (last among Centers).

He was the worst player on a 10 win team last year. His -10.0 on/off split was the worst of anyone on the team with greater than 150 minutes played by a massive margin (the second worst was Canaan with -4.2).

I'm not talking about his upside. I'm talking about his production - he was a liability of monumental proportions.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

And you forget that he was injured and put on restricted minutes. Most of the 'prokafor' people have gone part way with you. He's not what we expected. He doesn't seem to play with passion. But you're devaluing to the point where you're not making any sense.

You remind me of my fifth grade teacher. She used to bark orders because we wouldn't bark back.

Basketball 'history' does play into this - a review of draft picks present and past, a review of players with Okafor's unique skill set, obviously not right for the Sixers but not necessarily wrong (it's not black and white) for everybody else.

Enjoy your day. And just remember Clint's advice…

Where have they gone part way? One of the two guys I've argued with has shifted his original position multiple times and refuses to admit it.

I led off my first post going part way with them by saying that it's reasonable to expect him to improve but unreasonable to suggest he hasn't been one of the worst players in the league thus far.

The bolded has nothing to do with the argument. I'm not talking about draft position, history, his skill set, or his fit with us. My singular point is that he has been one of the worst players in the league thus far. Maybe his circumstances are the reason he's been one of the worst - I never suggested otherwise. Injured or not, he's been one of the worst players in the league.

'Thus far' this year? Or 'thus far' in his career? Because the latter would make you sound absolutely ridiculous.

he's been one of the worst players in the league.

This year. Right?

He HAS sounded absolutely ridiculous lol. From baiting, to the insults, to just putting words in whoevers mouth he decides to attack. I got....Okafor is the worst player in the NBA....
I responded by basically saying that statement is a tad far fetched. Next thing you know I'm a Prokafor that backtracks, shifts and is completely unaware of the situation while lacking basic reading comprehension skills. Yeah....had to put that one to rest.