hookshot199 wrote:TTP wrote:hookshot199 wrote:
You've got my sympathy. I was hoping we all could have an intelligent discussion about Okafor's trade value since things are moving rapidly, what with Orlando trading Ibaka and going into a deep tank. He's trying to use statistics to show that somebody's 10 minutes/game as a deep bench player had a better season than then-19-year-old Okafor…or somebody who played in the D-League most of the year…or even got waived…are somehow better players.
Anyway, what interested me today is that Orlando is now going full speed ahead with its tank. It will be interesting to see if they can pass the Lakers. I still believe we're going to trade Okafor to New Orleans, but not make a stupid trade. He's still worth a mid-first-round pick, perhaps slightly higher.
But in light of the Ibaka trade, if the Colangelos are looking to do a stealth tank - in the context of the reports that Simmons might not play or in light of Embiid's injury…I wouldn't be shocked if they moved Ilyasova and perhaps Sergio. The Cavs still need a backup point and, if management has decided that Saric is the future, why not move Ilyasova as well?
And then, in light of the Ibaka trade, do the Lakers finally try to move Lou-Will.
This is now becoming like a chess game. Orlando's the first to make an obvious commitment to tank. Expect some others to follow.
I specified early on in the conversation that I was talking about from a minutes adjusted perspective. Also since Okafor's value was negative, the more minutes played, the more detrimental he was. Some D-League players that played 10 minutes a game might have been worse on a per minute basis and would have been worse had they gotten the minutes Okafor had.
As an example with RPM, Rozier was roughly as much of a negative on a per minute basis as Okafor was. Rozier played one-fifth the minutes Okafor played though, so he had only one-fifth the negative impact Okafor had. Rashad Vaughn graded worse than Okafor did on a per minute basis but only played around two-thirds the minutes, thus was also less detrimental. In this case, it's more subjective which one you'd consider the worse player by that metric.
Who cares what you specified. You said he's the worst player in the NBA. That's just dumb. Look, it's Valentine's Day. Why don't you take your wife or your girlfriend out for dinner, and maybe she'll talk to sense to you. Just don't tell her your theories about basketball, please.
Enjoy your evening.
No I did not. I've stated at least three times now that I said he was "ONE OF" the worst players in the NBA. I don't think there's many intelligent and informed basketball fans that would disagree.
On a side note, it's uncanny that seemingly all of you guys arguing for Okafor constantly misread and change small aspects of my posts.
