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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1601 » by Mik317 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:11 pm

LukasBMW wrote:Would Philly have any interest in sending Okafor to the Suns for Brandon Knight, Alex Len, PJ Tucker or a combo of those 3 guys?

-Knight has played like garbage, but may turn it around. Bargain contract if he starts producing again.
-Len is going to be a backup center at best in the league and is a RFA at the end of the year.
-I hate to lose Tucker, but he is a free agent and we may lose him anyway.

Our draft picks, Booker, Bledsoe, Warren, Bender, and Chris are off limits, so don't ask.


Colangelo is asking for a player and a pick apparently.

doubt he settles for less at this point. Kinda cant
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1602 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:11 pm

LukasBMW wrote:Would Philly have any interest in sending Okafor to the Suns for Brandon Knight, Alex Len, PJ Tucker or a combo of those 3 guys?

-Knight has played like garbage, but may turn it around. Bargain contract if he starts producing again.
-Len is going to be a backup center at best in the league and is a RFA at the end of the year.
-I hate to lose Tucker, but he is a free agent and we may lose him anyway.

Our draft picks, Booker, Bledsoe, Warren, Bender, and Chris are off limits, so don't ask.


Okafor for Knight seems like a fair trade to me personally. Both have upside, both are finding themselves the odd men out in circumstantial situations.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1603 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:14 pm

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LukasBMW wrote:Would Philly have any interest in sending Okafor to the Suns for Brandon Knight, Alex Len, PJ Tucker or a combo of those 3 guys?

-Knight has played like garbage, but may turn it around. Bargain contract if he starts producing again.
-Len is going to be a backup center at best in the league and is a RFA at the end of the year.
-I hate to lose Tucker, but he is a free agent and we may lose him anyway.

Our draft picks, Booker, Bledsoe, Warren, Bender, and Chris are off limits, so don't ask.


Colangelo is asking for a player and a pick apparently.

doubt he settles for less at this point. Kinda cant


He needs to stop asking for a pick. If he has the opportunity to get a Brandon Knight in return he should do it. I'll take a guard that can score and play iso ball in a half court. Knight is another Lou and I'd personally be fine with that.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1604 » by TTP » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:15 pm

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TTP wrote:Yet over the period that we've been crushing and all of those other guys have been playing well, we're 10-4 when Okafor doesn't play and 4-6 when he does (and he only played 10 minutes in one of the wins).

I don't think his removal from the lineup is the sole reason we've done well, but it might be the biggest factor. You don't think the improved play of our perimeter players has any relation to the removal of Okafor? When he's out of the game, ball movement and spacing improve.


Just out of curiosity, how many of those games did Embiid start and Okafor come off the bench, because that's mainly what I'm talking about?

I'm talking about Okafor being used as a sub off the bench. Not in any other capacity. Again I'll get called a Prokafor, but all I'm doing is trying to positively find ways to make the kid of use, instead of just mentally screwing him the way this organization has done.


No idea off the top of my head. I doubt he was even productive in that role earlier in the season. I'm on mobile now though and can't verify.

Who's calling you a Prokafor?
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Post#1605 » by TTP » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:21 pm

LukasBMW wrote:Would Philly have any interest in sending Okafor to the Suns for Brandon Knight, Alex Len, PJ Tucker or a combo of those 3 guys?

-Knight has played like garbage, but may turn it around. Bargain contract if he starts producing again.
-Len is going to be a backup center at best in the league and is a RFA at the end of the year.
-I hate to lose Tucker, but he is a free agent and we may lose him anyway.

Our draft picks, Booker, Bledsoe, Warren, Bender, and Chris are off limits, so don't ask.


Probably not interested in any of those guys. Might have been interested in Knight earlier in the season but he's been one of the few players worse than Jah this year. I also don't think there's any upside there - he is who he is at this point.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1606 » by Arsenal » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:22 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Mik317 wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Would Philly have any interest in sending Okafor to the Suns for Brandon Knight, Alex Len, PJ Tucker or a combo of those 3 guys?

-Knight has played like garbage, but may turn it around. Bargain contract if he starts producing again.
-Len is going to be a backup center at best in the league and is a RFA at the end of the year.
-I hate to lose Tucker, but he is a free agent and we may lose him anyway.

Our draft picks, Booker, Bledsoe, Warren, Bender, and Chris are off limits, so don't ask.


Colangelo is asking for a player and a pick apparently.

doubt he settles for less at this point. Kinda cant


He needs to stop asking for a pick. If he has the opportunity to get a Brandon Knight in return he should do it. I'll take a guard that can score and play iso ball in a half court. Knight is another Lou and I'd personally be fine with that.


Knight has been atrocious this year. Right now he looks like one of the worst contracts in the league. There would need to be significant draft pick compensation added on for us to eat his deal.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1607 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:26 pm

TTP wrote:
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TTP wrote:Yet over the period that we've been crushing and all of those other guys have been playing well, we're 10-4 when Okafor doesn't play and 4-6 when he does (and he only played 10 minutes in one of the wins).

I don't think his removal from the lineup is the sole reason we've done well, but it might be the biggest factor. You don't think the improved play of our perimeter players has any relation to the removal of Okafor? When he's out of the game, ball movement and spacing improve.


Just out of curiosity, how many of those games did Embiid start and Okafor come off the bench, because that's mainly what I'm talking about?

I'm talking about Okafor being used as a sub off the bench. Not in any other capacity. Again I'll get called a Prokafor, but all I'm doing is trying to positively find ways to make the kid of use, instead of just mentally screwing him the way this organization has done.


No idea off the top of my head. I doubt he was even productive in that role earlier in the season. I'm on mobile now though and can't verify.

Who's calling you a Prokafor?


I'm just curious because honestly it seemed to be the most effective way to use him. The situation itself didn't really go off the rails until BB started the twin tower crap again. Look I'm all for whatever it takes to win, so however that needs to happen I'm fine with it. January was the most fun I have had being a fan of this team since 2001 and it only took the snake known as Colon Jello two weeks to suck the life out of all of that.
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Post#1608 » by TTP » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:39 pm

Also regarding the idea that Okafor can develop into a Mo Buckets or Kanter bench role. We're trying to build a championship team. Those guys weren't getting minutes deep in the playoffs. Speights barely played in the finals. Do you really want to invest resources into a guy whose upside is a player that can't be played versus good teams in the postseason? And keep in mind he's still a long way from turning into either of those players.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1609 » by eagereyez » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:46 pm

We already have Speights. His name is Richaun Holmes and he's currently unjustly behind Okafor on the depth chart.

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Post#1610 » by kukenotas » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:04 pm

Snakelangelos lost again....

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Post#1611 » by XDevilBoiX » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:29 pm

Should rename this thread to: who goes first, BC or Okafor?
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Post#1612 » by sixers hoops » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:43 pm

XDevilBoiX wrote:Should rename this thread to: who goes first, BC or Okafor?


Harris is pretty patient. He gave Hinkie years of historically bad badketball. I don't see the man of action going anywhere, especially considering the Simmons, Embiid, Bayless, and Noel injuries this season.
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Post#1613 » by KKell2507 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:48 pm

I think the most annoying thing about this whole thing is that while Hinkie didnt do well with public relations, I could atleast trust him in making trades. Now that hes out and BC is in, I cant trust him with the trade aspect of things yet(although the Grant-Ilyasova trade has turned out to be pretty great), and hes ruining the Public relations part of it at the same time. Why did we go through the whole Adam Silver helping out crap in the first place if this is what we are left with?
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Post#1614 » by hookshot199 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:05 pm

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I think accepting a bad deal will get him worse criticism.

Most GM falls trap when they get pressured(see Hennigan or BC's last days as Raptors GM). And I hope BC don't mess up being Sixers GM.

If you think it's a bad deal, then don't do it just because you got to emotionally pressured.


Colangelo did absolutely nothing wrong here.

Hinkie left him 4 NBA Centers, 1 of them Okafor has immense potential but has not played up to expectations. Colangelo tried selling Okafors potential and no one bit. Instead of giving him away he pull him back hopefully it lights a fire under Okafor.



76ers thanks to Hinkie has the luxary of not selling Okafors potential low and developing him while being a back up to Embiid for the next 2 years . Also exploring big ball PF with work on his conditioning and elbow jumper. Win-Win. Noel is a piece that could fetch us some serious return in which could be benificial to center pieces Embiid and Simmons long term . Saric , Covington and Mcconnell already prove to be long term role playing keepers. We can always get a shotblocker like Noel that can dunk .. Dwayne Dedmons do exist...



No you can't. He's not just a shot-blocker. He has potential to be an elite defensive player who can run the court. He ain't a stiff in other words. And he's young.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1615 » by XDevilBoiX » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:23 pm

sixers hoops wrote:
XDevilBoiX wrote:Should rename this thread to: who goes first, BC or Okafor?


Harris is pretty patient. He gave Hinkie years of historically bad badketball. I don't see the man of action going anywhere, especially considering the Simmons, Embiid, Bayless, and Noel injuries this season.

Hinkie and BC are completely different scenarios. Hinkie's job was to rebuild the team from scratch and everyone knew the plan, BC inherited this team with 1 and possibly 2 franchise players and all he has done is make the organization look bad in a very negative way.

I think there is still a small hope, if season ticket sales don't go up from now to the end of the season and this public relations disaster keeps up. Even if it's a slim chance but there is still hope.
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Post#1616 » by LongLiveHinkie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:25 pm

John Gonzalez was on CSN and he kinda intimated that the rumored offers out there may not be as good as what's really out there for Okafor and from talking to sources the best they may be able to get is only a late 1st round pick. Dei Lynam thinks they may be able to only get a 2nd rounder for him.
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Post#1617 » by sixers hoops » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:27 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:John Gonzalez was on CSN and he kinda intimated that the rumored offers out there may not be as good as what's really out there for Okafor and from talking to sources the best they may be able to get is only a late 1st round pick. Dei Lynam thinks they may be able to only get a 2nd rounder for him.


It can't help that everytime they bench him they go on a winning streak.
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Post#1618 » by Negrodamus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:28 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:John Gonzalez was on CSN and he kinda intimated that the rumored offers out there may not be as good as what's really out there for Okafor and from talking to sources the best they may be able to get is only a late 1st round pick. Dei Lynam thinks they may be able to only get a 2nd rounder for him.


I think the problem with trying to trade him now is that we have over a half of a season of regression from him. That's why the time to trade him was the end of last season at draft time. There was no real reason to see how he'd work with Embiid.

I think Bryan was paralyzed by not making the wrong move and here we are today.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1619 » by LongLiveHinkie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:31 pm

I'd rather cut Okafor than trade him for a 2nd. I know that's a cut your nose off to spite your face kinda thing, but I'm sorry... the annoyance level that would come with only getting a 2nd rounder back for him is not worth dealing with for only a 2nd. I'd honestly rather just cut him, and I'd actually feel good that after being a champ through all this, he'd get to pick his own team to sign with.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1620 » by KKell2507 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:34 pm

I picked Okafor in my daily fantasy lineup tonight because I truly believe hes going to go off numbers wise. He of course could just come in and go through the motions and sleep walk(and wouldnt fault him at all if he does tbh). But in what is likely his final game wearing a Sixers uniform(not counting Friday night in the Rising Stars) I have a feeling we are going to see the most focused and energetic Jahlil Okafor weve ever seen.

He knows the better he plays the better chance he has of getting out of this hell hole situation hes in, and he also sat around for the weekend hearing the crap offers of how unvaluable he seems to be. Hope it lights a fire under him and goes out as a Sixer with a bang in Boston, the same way he started his Sixers career in Boston.

After all he has been through I am 100% a Jahlil Okafor fan tonight. Hope he goes off.

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