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Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Ok I'm in - Bradley for Okafor, Stauskas and LA pick.
Said Jah losing weight over the summer boded well, showed his work ethic. He wants to get better, will. Being overwhelmed and passive/indecisive can look like not caring, but it isn't.
He figures out defense and it doesn't matter if he never gets the rest. But shooting should follow. Hard to improve rebounding, but strength will help.
Parliament10 wrote:Smog wrote:It's bizarre that there are Celtics fans left who aren't convinced by IT.
Are there really?
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Celts17Pride wrote:FWIW:
Chris Mannix says Celtics getting a ton of interest in Marcus Smart namely from Orlando and Sacramento.
Celts17Pride wrote:FWIW:
Chris Mannix says Celtics getting a ton of interest in Marcus Smart namely from Orlando and Sacramento.
Homerclease wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:FWIW:
Chris Mannix says Celtics getting a ton of interest in Marcus Smart namely from Orlando and Sacramento.
Sadly neither team has anything to offer of any use unless we're dumping Smart for a late lotto pick which to me seems foolish at this juncture.
Celts17Pride wrote:FWIW:
Chris Mannix says Celtics getting a ton of interest in Marcus Smart namely from Orlando and Sacramento.
Celts17Pride wrote:FWIW:
Chris Mannix says Celtics getting a ton of interest in Marcus Smart namely from Orlando and Sacramento.
Celts17Pride wrote:FWIW:
Chris Mannix says Celtics getting a ton of interest in Marcus Smart namely from Orlando and Sacramento.
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Danny Ainge is unsentimental, I could see him dealing Amir/Smart for Vuc.
The argument would be that we have guard depth, it's a guard draft, Rozier is going to be good, we can't pay IT, Bradley *and* Marcus what they deserve, it's hard to get good bigs..
Smart is the guts of the team, though. Rare to find guys who make defensive plays like he does - where the steal or block is so unlikely you see 9 guys lurch to a stop all at once to change direction. Noel makes plays like that, too.
Just no clue how Ainge is seeing the board, or how he evaluates guys.
SparringPartner wrote:Exactly, you go ahead and be IT's fan-club president. I myself am more worried about chips. Sell high, buy low...
Celts17Pride wrote:FWIW:
Chris Mannix says Celtics getting a ton of interest in Marcus Smart namely from Orlando and Sacramento.
jfs1000d wrote:Parliament10 wrote:Smog wrote:It's bizarre that there are Celtics fans left who aren't convinced by IT.
Are there really?
Most IT skeptics have a long history of hating the original trade because we started to win. They were wrong, been proven wrong, and they just don't want to admit it. Everything is off that initial deal where we were supposed to be a treadmill team because we went 40-42.
Then, they thought he was better off the bench despite him making an all-star appearance.
Those wanting him to be a sixth man look dumb.
He also goes against everything tankers thought. If the 60th player in the draft is a star, it destroys the thought you have to have a top 2 pick or don't bother.
The truth is, Isaiah Thomas is likely the best second round pick in NBA history and if he dies this for 3-4 more years, one of the most unique players in NBA history.
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Captain_Caveman wrote:jfs1000d wrote:Parliament10 wrote:Are there really?
Most IT skeptics have a long history of hating the original trade because we started to win. They were wrong, been proven wrong, and they just don't want to admit it. Everything is off that initial deal where we were supposed to be a treadmill team because we went 40-42.
Then, they thought he was better off the bench despite him making an all-star appearance.
Those wanting him to be a sixth man look dumb.
He also goes against everything tankers thought. If the 60th player in the draft is a star, it destroys the thought you have to have a top 2 pick or don't bother.
The truth is, Isaiah Thomas is likely the best second round pick in NBA history and if he dies this for 3-4 more years, one of the most unique players in NBA history.
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Meh. The Nets trade is nearly 100% of the reason we have a shot to be a contender one day.
Without the Nets completely bottoming out, this rebuild is complete fool's gold. And I mean all of it. Stevens, IT, the rest of the starting lineup... none of it would matter at all. Let's be perfectly clear that, realistically speaking, IT would not be a top 3 player on the Warriors, and would certainly not start for them.
Channel your inner Patriots fans and think of how silly it is for fans of teams like the Raiders to brag about 5th place, and having an MVP "candidate" in Derek Carr.
You may think you are giving a gotcha here, but I read this stuff from the IT fanboys and just shake my head. You don't get it. Any of it. You see 5th place as an accomplishment, and I see it as failure.
MaxwellSmart wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:jfs1000d wrote:
Most IT skeptics have a long history of hating the original trade because we started to win. They were wrong, been proven wrong, and they just don't want to admit it. Everything is off that initial deal where we were supposed to be a treadmill team because we went 40-42.
Then, they thought he was better off the bench despite him making an all-star appearance.
Those wanting him to be a sixth man look dumb.
He also goes against everything tankers thought. If the 60th player in the draft is a star, it destroys the thought you have to have a top 2 pick or don't bother.
The truth is, Isaiah Thomas is likely the best second round pick in NBA history and if he dies this for 3-4 more years, one of the most unique players in NBA history.
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Meh. The Nets trade is nearly 100% of the reason we have a shot to be a contender one day.
Without the Nets completely bottoming out, this rebuild is complete fool's gold. And I mean all of it. Stevens, IT, the rest of the starting lineup... none of it would matter at all. Let's be perfectly clear that, realistically speaking, IT would not be a top 3 player on the Warriors, and would certainly not start for them.
Channel your inner Patriots fans and think of how silly it is for fans of teams like the Raiders to brag about 5th place, and having an MVP "candidate" in Derek Carr.
You may think you are giving a gotcha here, but I read this stuff from the IT fanboys and just shake my head. You don't get it. Any of it. You see 5th place as an accomplishment, and I see it as failure.
Jeezus...gimme a break---without the Cavs getting the #1 pick the exact same time LeBron came back was a miracle too...and without Durant being a huge Pussy (listening to Jerry West)----the Celtics would be the Best team in the East with Durant right now---a Serious challenge to GSW.....so quit trying to downplay our enthusiasm...$H** happens all around the league.
Captain_Caveman wrote:jfs1000d wrote:Parliament10 wrote:Are there really?
Most IT skeptics have a long history of hating the original trade because we started to win. They were wrong, been proven wrong, and they just don't want to admit it. Everything is off that initial deal where we were supposed to be a treadmill team because we went 40-42.
Then, they thought he was better off the bench despite him making an all-star appearance.
Those wanting him to be a sixth man look dumb.
He also goes against everything tankers thought. If the 60th player in the draft is a star, it destroys the thought you have to have a top 2 pick or don't bother.
The truth is, Isaiah Thomas is likely the best second round pick in NBA history and if he dies this for 3-4 more years, one of the most unique players in NBA history.
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
Meh. The Nets trade is nearly 100% of the reason we have a shot to be a contender one day.
Without the Nets completely bottoming out, this rebuild is complete fool's gold. And I mean all of it. Stevens, IT, the rest of the starting lineup... none of it would matter at all. Let's be perfectly clear that, realistically speaking, IT would not be a top 3 player on the Warriors, and would certainly not start for them.
Channel your inner Patriots fans and think of how silly it is for fans of teams like the Raiders to brag about 5th place, and having an MVP "candidate" in Derek Carr.
You may think you are giving a gotcha here, but I read this stuff from the IT fanboys and just shake my head. You don't get it. Any of it. You see 5th place as an accomplishment, and I see it as failure.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.