ImageImageImage

Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline?

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, sixers hoops, Foshan, Sixerscan

SparksFly87
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,819
And1: 395
Joined: Mar 24, 2010

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1701 » by SparksFly87 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:58 pm

It Okafor stays it will only because boston made a offer for noel.
sixers hoops
Senior Mod - 76ers
Senior Mod - 76ers
Posts: 10,081
And1: 3,529
Joined: Jun 28, 2002

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1702 » by sixers hoops » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:03 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:Chris Mannix in a radio interview said he thinks the Sixers will eventually find a deal and get it done with Okafor.


Yeah I agree, I'd say deadline it gets done.


Considering we have the man of action at the helm, I assume it about 100% it get done.

In all seriousness, I do think it gets done, but nothing with Colangelo would surprise me at this point.
User avatar
TTP
Head Coach
Posts: 6,024
And1: 4,439
Joined: Oct 24, 2016
   

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1703 » by TTP » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:09 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
TTP wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I am a big Okafor believer and I'd trade him for Knight lol.


The irony here is that I dislike Okafor as much as anyone and I wouldn't trade him for Knight. Releasing Okafor for nothing is better than trading him for Knight. Knight is almost certainly a negative asset right now - the Suns should be willing to give up something to unload him.


Why is he a negative asset? Is his contract bad? I don't know what he's being paid. He's a scorer, but he can't seem to embrace the sixth man role that he most certainly should be playing if he wants to have a career that involves him playing on a contender. No way he's a starter. Yeah, I assume his contract is bad? I know he's not the greatest defensive player.
Let me clarify that I would only deal Okafor for him because I don't just want us to end up with nothing in return. Knight is relatively young player who like Okafor has shown ability to play in this league. He was very good in Milwaukee from what I remember.


Yeah it's impossible to evaluate a trade without knowing the contract situation of each player involved - it's not enough to solely consider the skill of each player. That should be one of the first things you look up before deciding whether a trade is good or bad.

In Knight's case, he's owed a ton of money for 3 more years. There's just no chance he's worth what he's being paid, especially when he's been one of the worst players in the league this season.

He's not even really young. He's 25 and he's been in the league for 6 seasons. There's no upside there.
jonjames is a signature bet welcher.

Appostis wrote:You're friend ..is a idiot.
marcush
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,441
And1: 3,214
Joined: May 11, 2013
Location: Melbourne
 

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1704 » by marcush » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:37 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Chris Mannix in a radio interview said he thinks the Sixers will eventually find a deal and get it done with Okafor.

Mannix may be assuming that based on logic and reasoning.....when in fact BC is operating in fear of being exposed as a fraud. He'd rather do nothing than endure being compared to what Hinkie may have recouped.
LongLiveHinkie
RealGM
Posts: 14,263
And1: 3,963
Joined: May 04, 2005

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1705 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:45 am

I'm hoping eventually this gets done and he was just holding out. As amateurish as the whole sitting Okafor thing is looking.

It's not like the guy has never made trades before, he just made a solid one earlier this season. So I hope for his sake(and ours) he's just playing hard to get in a major way. We'll find out in a week.
Stlaro1
Ballboy
Posts: 1
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 14, 2017

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1706 » by Stlaro1 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:59 am

ankle420breaker wrote:If we do ever move Okafor I feel like the Lakers are a dark horse to get him. They're struggling and have no real inside scoring threats. It also just seems like a Mitch Kupchak type of move.

As rumored, I'd expect any LAL deal to be centered around Clarkson with maybe a guy like Nance thrown in. Clarkson is on a pretty reasonable deal and could play alongside Embiid and Simmons. Perhaps they'd consider moving Ingram. The Lakers wouldn't be the worst trade partner in this situation.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk


I agree, the Lakers should be on BC speed dial.
Send them Okafor, the kings 2019 pick and a right to swap with sixers next year for Clarkson and lifted the protection on this year pick. We may have to take back Lou Williams
ExplosionsInDaSky
RealGM
Posts: 21,320
And1: 5,460
Joined: Mar 17, 2004

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1707 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:18 am

I would welcome Lou back with a gigantic hug and some McDonalds, but he would have to pay for it lol.
MNSixerFan
Pro Prospect
Posts: 788
And1: 136
Joined: Jan 20, 2017

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1708 » by MNSixerFan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:21 am

Lou would be great for this team.
LongLiveHinkie
RealGM
Posts: 14,263
And1: 3,963
Joined: May 04, 2005

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1709 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:27 am

Lou would be ok if we were contending. He's a ping pong ball killer.
AdotSmoove
Sophomore
Posts: 239
And1: 58
Joined: Jul 10, 2016
     

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1710 » by AdotSmoove » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:32 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
TTP wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I am a big Okafor believer and I'd trade him for Knight lol.


The irony here is that I dislike Okafor as much as anyone and I wouldn't trade him for Knight. Releasing Okafor for nothing is better than trading him for Knight. Knight is almost certainly a negative asset right now - the Suns should be willing to give up something to unload him.


Why is he a negative asset? Is his contract bad? I don't know what he's being paid. He's a scorer, but he can't seem to embrace the sixth man role that he most certainly should be playing if he wants to have a career that involves him playing on a contender. No way he's a starter. Yeah, I assume his contract is bad? I know he's not the greatest defensive player.
Let me clarify that I would only deal Okafor for him because I don't just want us to end up with nothing in return. Knight is relatively young player who like Okafor has shown ability to play in this league. He was very good in Milwaukee from what I remember.


Knight will make roughly 14mil per year for the next 3 years


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app
hookshot199
Analyst
Posts: 3,261
And1: 723
Joined: Jun 16, 2014
   

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1711 » by hookshot199 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:13 pm

TTP wrote:
smittybanton wrote:
AdotSmoove wrote:How does this sound

PHI out: Okafor, 2 future conditional 2nds

PHI in: Knight, PHX 1st top-ten protection

PHX out: Knight, future 1st top 10 protected

PHX in: Okafor, Jeff Green

ORL out: Jeff green

ORL in: 2 conditional PHI 2nds

WHY DO IT PHI? Knight is as bad a fit in PHX as Okafor in PHI. Knight isnt really all that overpaid in today's CBA but in any case PHI isn't seriously luring a top tier free agent until 1. Embiid is regularly healthy 2. Simmons/Embiid proves it can work 3. We take another step to at least .500. Which means maybe in summer 18 we are an attractive free agent locale. Prior to the MIL-PHX trade Knight showed steady improvement in OBPM and DBPM playing over 30 mpg. I don't think that was a fluke. I could be wrong, but even so when the pick conveys it will be between 11-15 which alone is more than we can dream to get for Okafor at this point. We just have to eat Knights contract which I don't see as being a big deal under the growing salary cap.

PHX DOES IT: To cut their losses and continue blowing it up as to Knight. Jeff Green is an expiring contract. Okafor gives them what they drafted Alex Len to do. Plus Okafor/Bledsoe PNR could be very effective. With Chriss providing rim protection it helps Okafor. Bender stretching the floor also helps, but Bender is not nearly ready for 5 man minutes so the Chriss/Bender line up simply isn't ready. Maybe Okafor works out, maybe not; but Knight has most certainly not worked out.

ORL DOES IT: because the sign Jeff Green to trade at deadline was a bad decision, par for the course for Magic. Plus, 2 2nds is more than they can get from anyone else.

(Green only included for salaries)

Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app


I'd rather that than Valentine and CHI18...


Yikes, I wouldn't. You'd rather take on a negative asset that would hamper us for 3 more years AND give up two seconds than receive a prospect (with the 1sts likely cancelling each other out in value)?



Well, we finally agree on something, though perhaps for different reasons. We have to wait until the lottery and draft to bring in veterans. We're still in play for the Lakers pick. And Okafor's value, whether you like him or dislike him, isn't going to change appreciably between now and June. At which point, if you're in need of a center prospect, you'll have to decide whether Bam Adebayo, Justin Patton, Jarrett Allen or Tony Bradley have more upside than Okafor.

But we can't be trading for guards until we know how many draft picks we're going to have.
Vince5693
Sophomore
Posts: 163
And1: 37
Joined: Jan 27, 2017
         

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1712 » by Vince5693 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:54 pm

Tom penn (espn analyst) says there's no chance he's not traded by the deadline. Says his value is a young player and a future first.
Unbreakable99
General Manager
Posts: 8,752
And1: 3,993
Joined: Jul 04, 2014

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1713 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:01 pm

We are coming down the stretch. We need to keep Okafor on the team to finish the season to help us tank. It's a crucial time. We are like a game out of 9th. We need to play Okafor 33 minutes per game. Lol.
Skates
Head Coach
Posts: 7,307
And1: 3,851
Joined: Feb 18, 2008
       

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1714 » by Skates » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:03 pm

Vince5693 wrote:Tom penn (espn analyst) says there's no chance he's not traded by the deadline. Says his value is a young player and a future first.


Penn is quite often an idiot, but he is probably right on there. I prefer a higher upside, rawer athlete than a non-athletic shooter type as the player.
Vince5693
Sophomore
Posts: 163
And1: 37
Joined: Jan 27, 2017
         

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1715 » by Vince5693 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:04 pm

Skates wrote:
Vince5693 wrote:Tom penn (espn analyst) says there's no chance he's not traded by the deadline. Says his value is a young player and a future first.


Penn is quite often an idiot, but he is probably right on there. I prefer a higher upside, rawer athlete than a non-athletic shooter type as the player.

Same, definally don't want a finished product.
ckchen
Veteran
Posts: 2,816
And1: 600
Joined: Aug 07, 2001

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1716 » by ckchen » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:05 pm

Stlaro1 wrote:
ankle420breaker wrote:If we do ever move Okafor I feel like the Lakers are a dark horse to get him. They're struggling and have no real inside scoring threats. It also just seems like a Mitch Kupchak type of move.

As rumored, I'd expect any LAL deal to be centered around Clarkson with maybe a guy like Nance thrown in. Clarkson is on a pretty reasonable deal and could play alongside Embiid and Simmons. Perhaps they'd consider moving Ingram. The Lakers wouldn't be the worst trade partner in this situation.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk


I agree, the Lakers should be on BC speed dial.
Send them Okafor, the kings 2019 pick and a right to swap with sixers next year for Clarkson and lifted the protection on this year pick. We may have to take back Lou Williams


Hahaha, the Laker's won't "throw in" Nance - they love him. I would think that the Sixers would jump on Clarkson if that was actually an offer, but I would be hard pressed to believe that it would be.

I wouldn't throw in any kind of pick as potentially valuable as the kings 2019 pick or a pick swap just to pick up Clarkson. The Lakers also will never lift the protection on this year's pick - if they actually land a top 3 pick, there's no chance in hell they would give that up. The only 1st round pick I would ever include in Okafor deal as a sweetener is that OKC pick.
Vince5693
Sophomore
Posts: 163
And1: 37
Joined: Jan 27, 2017
         

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1717 » by Vince5693 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:05 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:We are coming down the stretch. We need to keep Okafor on the team to finish the season to help us tank. It's a crucial time. We are like a game out of 9th. We need to play Okafor 33 minutes per game. Lol.

Lol in all seriousness I'd like to see guys like Holmes and TLC get some serious minutes
FlightBrothers
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,284
And1: 187
Joined: Dec 22, 2010

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1718 » by FlightBrothers » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:13 pm

I wouldn't throw in any kind of pick as potentially valuable as the kings 2019 pick or a pick swap just to pick up Clarkson. The Lakers also will never lift the protection on this year's pick - if they actually land a top 3 pick, there's no chance in hell they would give that up. The only 1st round pick I would ever include in Okafor deal as a sweetener is that OKC pick.[/quote]


We already used that pick to draft Furkan Korkmaz
Skates
Head Coach
Posts: 7,307
And1: 3,851
Joined: Feb 18, 2008
       

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1719 » by Skates » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:19 pm

FlightBrothers wrote:I wouldn't throw in any kind of pick as potentially valuable as the kings 2019 pick or a pick swap just to pick up Clarkson. The Lakers also will never lift the protection on this year's pick - if they actually land a top 3 pick, there's no chance in hell they would give that up. The only 1st round pick I would ever include in Okafor deal as a sweetener is that OKC pick.


We already used that pick to draft Furkan Korkmaz


I think it means the new OKC pick we got in the Grant/Ilyasova deal, not the one we just used.
Cheatergriffin
Pro Prospect
Posts: 830
And1: 356
Joined: May 20, 2016

Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1720 » by Cheatergriffin » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:26 pm

I dont get the jordan clarkson love on this board? Am i missing something with him??

LA wants to keep that pick this year bc of the orlando scenario.

Return to Philadelphia 76ers