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WeekapaugGroove wrote:NTB wrote:
That "sunsinsider" account is kind of crap. With that said I could see the suns having interest in Favors as their long term answer at C.
NTB wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:NTB wrote:
That "sunsinsider" account is kind of crap. With that said I could see the suns having interest in Favors as their long term answer at C.
Qwigglez wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:NTB wrote:
That "sunsinsider" account is kind of crap. With that said I could see the suns having interest in Favors as their long term answer at C.
Well he would basically be playing to get healthy the rest of the season, and then next year is his contract year and he would probably be looking at a way higher asking price then what Len will receive.
If we trade PJ for him and maybe a 2nd round pick, I'd be fine. Not sure I'd be willing to give up much though.
jcsunsfan wrote:His numbers are not spectacular at all. He seems like a rotation player. He is 26. His efficiency is mediocre for a big man.
Qwigglez wrote:jcsunsfan wrote:His numbers are not spectacular at all. He seems like a rotation player. He is 26. His efficiency is mediocre for a big man.
I'm not sure his advanced stats, but I hope you aren't looking at this year's numbers since he's been injury-riddled all season. He isn't even in game shape.
Qwigglez wrote:Oh... not sure if someone posted this but...
IT tweeted this...
Andre Drummond retweeted it and then posted his own.
He also took off his bio that he plays for the Pistons. Could be nothing, could be something.
jcsunsfan wrote:Qwigglez wrote:Oh... not sure if someone posted this but...
IT tweeted this...
Andre Drummond retweeted it and then posted his own.
He also took off his bio that he plays for the Pistons. Could be nothing, could be something.
Drummond to the Celtics. Yeah. I could see Ainge doing that.
Kerrsed wrote:GetYourPHX wrote:The only players we should think about moving at the deadline are Chandler and Tucker. Those two players command a premium mid season because they're vets who would fit in on any team. Everyone else should stay.
We're stuck with Knight. He's not going anywhere unless we unload him for peanuts. Strap in Suns fans because we're going to be watching him play - for better or worse.
Moving Bledsoe at the deadline makes no sense. If we want to trade him, we'll get more during the offseason. There's no point to moving him unless we know we're locked in on a point guard in the draft. What if we end up with Josh Jackson?
Let's wait to see what happens in the lottery before we even think of moving Bledsoe.
There could be good reasons to move Bledsoe before the draft as well.
One would be that if we did, Knight would be our starting PG, and could try to bring his value up some.
Another would be because there are whispers a foot.
It sounds like Philly really wants to find a way to get Holiday back. One way would to make us an offer on Bledsoe, so he would be sent to the Pelicans and join up with his Kentucky brethren. I currently have Holiday pretty even value wise and play wise with Bledsoe. I could see New Orleans doing this for 2 reasons, the first is the Cousins connection. Make him happy, do everything they can to convince him to sign that extension. The second reason is because of the contracts. Bledsoes contract is currently considered a steal in today's NBA, and Holiday is an expiring and will likely command much much more than what Bledsoe is getting, so its a bit of a money saver for the Pelicans, and they are going to need it with Davis/Cousins consuming damn near $40M by themselves. So there is a few reasons for them to want Bledsoe over Holiday.
As for Philly, trading Holiday for Noel was a mistake in the long run, and they realize it. Holiday was the best PG that they had in a long time, and has been since he was traded. They are now stockpiled with C's, and im sure they are regretting Holiday for Noel, not just due to their play, but more so fitment wise.
So what do we get? Thats the question. I would go after Noel and a pick. It could be theirs or Lakers, i dont care, i want the damn pick. They might start trying to substitute Okafor for Noel, which i wouldnt like, but i still might do, so as long as that pick is there.
krakdol wrote:You don't get it at all. Favors was a borderline allstar last year until he started getting injuries (back and knee).
Now he's trying to get back from it and get last year's numbers. Health is the only problem with Favors. He's the perfect teammate, he's got power, great defense, great rim protection, blocks, can score like 25 pts on a regular basis, can pass. But right now, he lost part of his lift and agility because of injuries.
So any Favors trade is a gamble both for Utah and for the team who gets him : if he gets back to his level, he's worth a lot more than any team will pay today. At his top, he's an allstar. But that's a big "if".
As a Jazz fan watching every game, it would be a huge heartbreak if he's traded. Guy was a beast before he got injured. If he ever becomes a allstar for any other team, it would be a huge loss for Utah.
Now even is he gets back to his best, Jazz team has Gobert too, so a stretch big would probably be a better association with Gobert. Favors is too similar to Gobert (unlike Gobert, he can shoot though), so a trade could make sense.
On the other hand, trading Favors now is strange because he's far from his top level due to multiple injuries, so you kinda sell low. Timing looks off. Waiting for next year to see if he recovers perfectly looks better for Utah (although at that time it will be an expiring contract).
krakdol wrote:You don't get it at all. Favors was a borderline allstar last year until he started getting injuries (back and knee).
Now he's trying to get back from it and get last year's numbers. Health is the only problem with Favors. He's the perfect teammate, he's got power, great defense, great rim protection, blocks, can score like 25 pts on a regular basis, can pass. But right now, he lost part of his lift and agility because of injuries.
So any Favors trade is a gamble both for Utah and for the team who gets him : if he gets back to his level, he's worth a lot more than any team will pay today. At his top, he's an allstar. But that's a big "if".
As a Jazz fan watching every game, it would be a huge heartbreak if he's traded. Guy was a beast before he got injured. If he ever becomes a allstar for any other team, it would be a huge loss for Utah.
Still, Jazz team has Gobert too, so a stretch big would probably be a better association with Gobert. Favors is too similar to Gobert (unlike Gobert, he can shoot though), so a trade could make sense.
I think trading Favors now would be a bit strange because he's far from his top level due to multiple injuries, so you kinda sell low. Timing looks off. Waiting for next year to see if he recovers perfectly looks better for Utah (although at that time it will be an expiring contract).
Qwigglez wrote:Thanks for the input. I hope Lyles pans out for you guys. I have him in my dynasty league.
Favors is underrated IMO. I'm not sure if Jazz utilize him as much as they could over the past couple of seasons. I'm wondering if he can play the 5 consistently though?
AtheJ415 wrote:Zelaznyrules wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:Mark Cuban said they're willing to take on salaries in exchange for picks. Might be our only way to get rid of Knight.
What do we gain by this? We'd waste a valuable asset (a pick, any pick) and save salary that we don't need). If he's a disruption, just bench him and forget about him. If the time comes when we need to clear salary, then perhaps it might make sense but to do it right now is just shortsighted. Not that I would actually bench him, I still believe we can rehab his image and by trying to do so, all we risk is the accumulation of a few wins. And failing that, give in and trade him for a second round pick. As poorly as he's played, every GM remembers that he had legit value when he was a starter in the right situation.
Exactly. Why does everyone think we are desperate for cap space. If we run up against an issue where Knight must be moved so we can sign somebody, then we can just do this in the offseason. Absolutely 0 reason to dump him and hurt ourselves in the process now. That is what Sac did. Now they are staring down not controlling their draft picks as they go through a rebuild.
