Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 6

[mhd]

Do the Pelicans make the playoffs? I am puzzled why they didn't insist on having Temple of Afflalo in the trade. They are going to need a SG, right. Could be missing something though.

They were probably worried the whole time that the Kings would get cold feet and change their minds. They knew they were robbing the Kings blind. I understand, get the deal done and figure ish out later.

I think it's a workable situation. Role players are the easiest guys to pick up. They've got two legit franchise types and a rock solid PG. They just need like two wings that can hit open shots. Maybe they can get one from China now that CBA's season is ending soon. They'll also have the MLE in the offseason to figure it out.

Moore is OK (he'll have plenty of open looks now). Windhorst suggested that they'll offer the full MLE to Korver who is a FA.

[J-Ves]

There have been some exceptionally bad front office moves in recent months/years:
Sac: Boogie trade
Brooklyn: No picks = no hope
Lakers: 2016 free agency, firing your GM right before the trade deadline, replacing him with a big name with no GMing experience

The Kings, Nets, Lakers, and Heat are all rebuilding teams that owe at least one future first (some more protected than others) to another team.

The Wizards have their fair share of them as well, of course

[nate33]

Do the Pelicans make the playoffs? I am puzzled why they didn't insist on having Temple of Afflalo in the trade. They are going to need a SG, right. Could be missing something though.

They were probably worried the whole time that the Kings would get cold feet and change their minds. They knew they were robbing the Kings blind. I understand, get the deal done and figure ish out later.

I think it's a workable situation. Role players are the easiest guys to pick up. They've got two legit franchise types and a rock solid PG. They just need like two wings that can hit open shots. Maybe they can get one from China now that CBA's season is ending soon. They'll also have the MLE in the offseason to figure it out.

Moore is OK (he'll have plenty of open looks now). Windhorst suggested that they'll offer the full MLE to Korver who is a FA.

Korver is 35 years old as is about to fall off a cliff production-wise.

[dckingsfan]

Do the Pelicans make the playoffs? I am puzzled why they didn't insist on having Temple of Afflalo in the trade. They are going to need a SG, right. Could be missing something though.

They were probably worried the whole time that the Kings would get cold feet and change their minds. They knew they were robbing the Kings blind. I understand, get the deal done and figure ish out later.

I think it's a workable situation. Role players are the easiest guys to pick up. They've got two legit franchise types and a rock solid PG. They just need like two wings that can hit open shots. Maybe they can get one from China now that CBA's season is ending soon. They'll also have the MLE in the offseason to figure it out.

Moore is OK (he'll have plenty of open looks now). Windhorst suggested that they'll offer the full MLE to Korver who is a FA.

They just need 3 point shooters. Korver, Beasley, Barbosa... any of them would help the Pels now.

[tontoz]

There have been some exceptionally bad front office moves in recent months/years:
Sac: Boogie trade
Brooklyn: No picks = no hope
Lakers: 2016 free agency, firing your GM right before the trade deadline, replacing him with a big name with no GMing experience

The Kings, Nets, Lakers, and Heat are all rebuilding teams that owe at least one future first (some more protected than others) to another team.

The Wizards have their fair share of them as well, of course

The Heat don't belong in that post. They lost Lebron/Wade to free agency then lost Bosh to injury and still might make the playoffs.

[J-Ves]

There have been some exceptionally bad front office moves in recent months/years:
Sac: Boogie trade
Brooklyn: No picks = no hope
Lakers: 2016 free agency, firing your GM right before the trade deadline, replacing him with a big name with no GMing experience

The Kings, Nets, Lakers, and Heat are all rebuilding teams that owe at least one future first (some more protected than others) to another team.

The Wizards have their fair share of them as well, of course

The Heat don't belong in that post. They lost Lebron/Wade to free agency then lost Bosh to injury and still might make the playoffs.

The Heat are a great franchise, but losing a lotto pick(top 7 protected) to the Suns next year really hurts especially if they shade more towards rebuilding team by then. You are right that they don't belong with the Nets, Lakers, and Kings who are all proving to be the biggest jokes in the NBA. The Knicks are pretty close on their heels.

The Heat also owe their 2021 first with no protection to the Suns.

[verbal8]

Kuptchak has been let go in LA.

I think it would be smart to gauge his interest, Ernie be damned.

Strange timing on the move by the Lakers. Magic getting involved seemed like it was probably a matter of time at least on Jim Buss. However it seems strange to make the move 2 days before the deadline.

Pure speculation, but I wonder if botching a cousins offer may have been a factor.

[verbal8]

The return on Cousin seems low, but the possibility of him leaving may have put a damper on the return. While Cousins could be a franchise changing talent, the risk of giving up a ton to acquire a guy who leaves in FA is pretty high. There also is the risk of him wearing or his welcome and having to trade for pennies on the dollar.

[Upper Decker]

I actually like the Lou Williams to Houston deal a lot. They now have an offense that's capable of going toe-to-toe with GSW's lineup of death. The three guard line up of Lou Williams, Harden, and Gordon could be scary if it clicks. My money is still on GSW to win the title, but it wouldn't be shocking if Houston pushed them to the absolute brink. They have a great blend of deep shooting, perimeter defense, tough athletic rebounding big's, and relentless attacking offensive players.

[sfam]

Kuptchak has been let go in LA.

I think it would be smart to gauge his interest, Ernie be damned.

Strange timing on the move by the Lakers. Magic getting involved seemed like it was probably a matter of time at least on Jim Buss. However it seems strange to make the move 2 days before the deadline.

Pure speculation, but I wonder if botching a cousins offer may have been a factor.

That apparently was the last straw according to ESPN sources last night on Van Pelt if I was paying attention.

[dckingsfan]

Tucker to the Raps is interesting...

[deneem4]

Wow Lou Williams came out the gate like he was made for Houston...they going to be dangerous with him and Gordon coming off the bench

[queridiculo]

Just got done watching the first quarter of the Pelicans Rockets game and Cousins is just atrocious on defense.

Not a lot of talent outside of Davis and Cousins, they need Holiday to play like a star to do anything.

That size advantage won't mean much if you're trading twos for threes all game.

51 out of the Rockets 91 shot attempts were threes.

[TGW]

Just got done watching the first quarter of the Pelicans Rockets game and Cousins is just atrocious on defense.

Not a lot of talent outside of Davis and Cousins, they need Holiday to play like a star to do anything.

That size advantage won't mean much if you're trading twos for threes all game.

51 out of the Rockets 91 shot attempts were threes.

I said there would be spacing issues, and low and behold, there are spacing issues.

I don't really like the pairing now, and unless the Pels add some sharpshooters, I don't like it for the future.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Just got done watching the first quarter of the Pelicans Rockets game and Cousins is just atrocious on defense.

Not a lot of talent outside of Davis and Cousins, they need Holiday to play like a star to do anything.

That size advantage won't mean much if you're trading twos for threes all game.

51 out of the Rockets 91 shot attempts were threes.

I said there would be spacing issues, and low and behold, there are spacing issues.

I don't really like the pairing now, and unless the Pels add some sharpshooters, I don't like it for the future.

Dude's first quarter against the Seven Seconds or Less Rockets...I guess he should have been stellar on switches!!!

In 34 minutes: 27 points, 14 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals, 4 blocks, 1 turnover. (-13 while Davis and Holiday each finished -31)

The Wizards started out this season 2-8. Since then 32-13.

It will be really funny if Cousins doesn't work out in NO and he comes to the Wizards.

[TGW]

Kings are 1-0 without Cousins. Would be hilarious if they vaulted into that 8th seed, while the Pels fell into the lottery. Actually, I'm rooting for that to happen...I'd love to see the Kings be good again. It's a very supportive fanbase.

[tontoz]

Kings are 1-0 without Cousins. Would be hilarious if they vaulted into that 8th seed, while the Pels fell into the lottery. Actually, I'm rooting for that to happen...I'd love to see the Kings be good again. It's a very supportive fanbase.

Actually they are 2-1 this season without Cousins. They beat Boston without him earlier this month.

[TGW]

Kings are 1-0 without Cousins. Would be hilarious if they vaulted into that 8th seed, while the Pels fell into the lottery. Actually, I'm rooting for that to happen...I'd love to see the Kings be good again. It's a very supportive fanbase.

Actually they are 2-1 this season without Cousins. They beat Boston without him earlier this month.

I should have been more specific. I meant post-trade.

[mhd]

I've always been a big WCS fan. He never had an opportunity with the Kings. I like his game. If the Kings are able to grab a PG in this draft, they can be in business. Their cap situation is excellent as they have no bad contracts. Say they are able to get a PG and PF (assuming they fall into the top 10 with their own pick, and the Pels are 9 (which they are right now)), then they could draft a shooting big like Leaf, Markannan, or swing for the home run with Giles, and a PG like Fox or Nitilkina.

[tontoz]

Kings are 1-0 without Cousins. Would be hilarious if they vaulted into that 8th seed, while the Pels fell into the lottery. Actually, I'm rooting for that to happen...I'd love to see the Kings be good again. It's a very supportive fanbase.

Actually they are 2-1 this season without Cousins. They beat Boston without him earlier this month.

I should have been more specific. I meant post-trade.

I was just echoing your point really. Given that they really got nothing back to replace Cousins it should be interesting to see how they finish the season.

224 points in their last two games without their leading scorer. Things that make you go hmmmmm...