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Post#781 » by getrichordie » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:46 am

spearsy23 wrote:Mcdaniels is still riding that hot 3 point shooting month he had to start his career. The guy isn't good at all. Basically a smaller jerami grant.


Not saying we should give up a lot to get him, just saying if we can get him for a 2nd, I wouldn't mind. But I get the feeling he's the type of guy who would try to fight Westbrook. Maybe it is the tattoos and those devilish eyebrows.
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Post#782 » by Balkman32 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:30 am

spearsy23 wrote:Nets selling hard on bogdanovic, wonder if we made an offer.

He is the guy I have my eye on. Brooklyn will deal him for a controllable asset like Payne.


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Post#783 » by SvenniSterki » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:05 am

If Kings are going all-in with a rebuild maybe we could offer them something like this:

They get: Roberson, Payne, Singler, Morrow
We get: Collison and McLemore

We get 2x 1year rentals and they get Roberson and Payne for future and have to take on contract of Singler instead.
Given that Collison and Westbrook are supposed to be buddies he might be our 2nd pg in Westbrook era but I guess we dont have much chance in re-signing McLemore. Im not sure we had big chances of keeping Roberson unless overpaying so for me its not a big deal if Roberson or McLemore walks after season.
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Re: 2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion 

Post#784 » by bondom34 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:11 am

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spearsy23 wrote:Nets selling hard on bogdanovic, wonder if we made an offer.

He is the guy I have my eye on. Brooklyn will deal him for a controllable asset like Payne.


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He's pretty bad at everything except shooting. A bigger Euro Morrow.
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Re: 2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion 

Post#785 » by bondom34 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:17 am

Adrian Wojnarowski: Oklahoma (City) would like to find a wing who can help them maybe short-term. They are a little limited on what they can offer. They’ve given up some picks going forward. I think they’re going to be careful what they offer out. – via The Vertical
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Re: 2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion 

Post#786 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:34 am

bondom34 wrote:
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spearsy23 wrote:Nets selling hard on bogdanovic, wonder if we made an offer.

He is the guy I have my eye on. Brooklyn will deal him for a controllable asset like Payne.


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He's pretty bad at everything except shooting. A bigger Euro Morrow.

Lazy comparison tbh. Bogdanovic takes about 30% of his shots at the rim compared to a-mo's 10, he finishes much better, gets to the line better, and unlike morrow hasn't forgotten how to shoot. While they're both primarily spot up shooters bogdanovic has more to his game than that.
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Post#787 » by Pillendreher » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:41 am

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Adrian Wojnarowski: Oklahoma (City) would like to find a wing who can help them maybe short-term. They are a little limited on what they can offer. They’ve given up some picks going forward. I think they’re going to be careful what they offer out. – via The Vertical

So we're gonna go for scraps and basically stay put.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#788 » by SvenniSterki » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:50 am

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bondom34 wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski: Oklahoma (City) would like to find a wing who can help them maybe short-term. They are a little limited on what they can offer. They’ve given up some picks going forward. I think they’re going to be careful what they offer out. – via The Vertical

So we're gonna go for scraps and basically stay put.


Not much you can do without much flexibility...

The extensions of Adams and Oladipo confirmed the core until trade-deadline of next season. I was just hoping Presti would at least try and get shooting instead of Roberson as it seems more and more unlikely that OKC can get him at a price that is comfortable.

If we could just get a reliant shooter instead of him I would be in heaven!
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Post#789 » by SvenniSterki » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:57 am

Maybe some of you would like to add Corey Brewer if Lakers cut him .... I am not a big fan but instead of standing pat he might be a better rotation guy than we have available atm. I dont really like those short-term solutions specially if its a veteran taking minutes from future players....
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Post#790 » by retrobro90 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:44 am

SvenniSterki wrote:Maybe some of you would like to add Corey Brewer if Lakers cut him .... I am not a big fan but instead of standing pat he might be a better rotation guy than we have available atm. I dont really like those short-term solutions specially if its a veteran taking minutes from future players....

I'm sure Donovan would be on board.
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Post#791 » by bondom34 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:10 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:He is the guy I have my eye on. Brooklyn will deal him for a controllable asset like Payne.


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He's pretty bad at everything except shooting. A bigger Euro Morrow.

Lazy comparison tbh. Bogdanovic takes about 30% of his shots at the rim compared to a-mo's 10, he finishes much better, gets to the line better, and unlike morrow hasn't forgotten how to shoot. While they're both primarily spot up shooters bogdanovic has more to his game than that.

True, and I'm lazy in general :D.

But still, wouldn't give much for him. No picks for sure.
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Post#792 » by bondom34 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:11 am

SvenniSterki wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
bondom34 wrote:

So we're gonna go for scraps and basically stay put.


Not much you can do without much flexibility...

The extensions of Adams and Oladipo confirmed the core until trade-deadline of next season. I was just hoping Presti would at least try and get shooting instead of Roberson as it seems more and more unlikely that OKC can get him at a price that is comfortable.

If we could just get a reliant shooter instead of him I would be in heaven!

Not really, they have 7 mil in cap space now that's gone when those contracts kick in. So some flexibility.

That said, if there's no good moves, no worries, it's been a bridge year and no need to rush.
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Post#793 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:39 am

We absolutely have to make a move. We might not even have the assets to make a splashy one, but at the very least presti owes it to Russ to use that 7 million to bring in someone. Even if it's a mclemore type that you're just hoping breaks out, at least gotta give it a try. And I'd honestly be happy with ANY acquisition that shoots 37% or more from three that Billy will play, even if it's Joe Harris, or mclemore, or Anthony tolliver. Just give me someone that's gonna make me think the ball is going in when they shoot an open three.
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Post#794 » by Pillendreher » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:56 am

spearsy23 wrote:We absolutely have to make a move. We might not even have the assets to make a splashy one, but at the very least presti owes it to Russ to use that 7 million to bring in someone. Even if it's a mclemore type that you're just hoping breaks out, at least gotta give it a try. And I'd honestly be happy with ANY acquisition that shoots 37% or more from three that Billy will play, even if it's Joe Harris, or mclemore, or Anthony tolliver. Just give me someone that's gonna make me think the ball is going in when they shoot an open three.


100 % agree. This is about showing Russ you give a ****, if nothing else. You can't have him struggle out there to keep this crappy roster afloat and just go 'Well, deal with it'.
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Post#795 » by bondom34 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:58 am

Yeah, for that reason I'd agree but I'm torn. I hate seeing Russ have to do this.
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Post#796 » by Pillendreher » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:23 am

Russ have to do what?
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Post#797 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:49 am

spearsy23 wrote:We absolutely have to make a move. We might not even have the assets to make a splashy one, but at the very least presti owes it to Russ to use that 7 million to bring in someone. Even if it's a mclemore type that you're just hoping breaks out, at least gotta give it a try. And I'd honestly be happy with ANY acquisition that shoots 37% or more from three that Billy will play, even if it's Joe Harris, or mclemore, or Anthony tolliver. Just give me someone that's gonna make me think the ball is going in when they shoot an open three.


What assets are they going to give up? Teams are not interested in 2022, or later, draft pick. The Thunder have no assets they can trade without making the team worse. There is no move to make. OKC made their moves. They brought in Waiters, Kanter and Grant. Those are the players Presti acquired with the first round picks.

You want a move? Morrow and Roberson to NOLA for Asik and their 2019 first. This is a team that is sellers not buyers. They owe it to Russ to trade him to a contender for a package of picks and prospects instead of trying to keep him here on a rebuilding team.
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Post#798 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:51 am

bondom34 wrote:That said, if there's no good moves, no worries, it's been a bridge year and no need to rush.



It is a bridge year from contending to rebuilding. It didn't have to a bridge year. They could have gone into rebuilding right away instead of wasting a year. Next year could be completely wasted year #2 and then Russ walks.
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Post#799 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:41 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:We absolutely have to make a move. We might not even have the assets to make a splashy one, but at the very least presti owes it to Russ to use that 7 million to bring in someone. Even if it's a mclemore type that you're just hoping breaks out, at least gotta give it a try. And I'd honestly be happy with ANY acquisition that shoots 37% or more from three that Billy will play, even if it's Joe Harris, or mclemore, or Anthony tolliver. Just give me someone that's gonna make me think the ball is going in when they shoot an open three.


What assets are they going to give up? Teams are not interested in 2022, or later, draft pick. The Thunder have no assets they can trade without making the team worse. There is no move to make. OKC made their moves. They brought in Waiters, Kanter and Grant. Those are the players Presti acquired with the first round picks.

You want a move? Morrow and Roberson to NOLA for Asik and their 2019 first. This is a team that is sellers not buyers. They owe it to Russ to trade him to a contender for a package of picks and prospects instead of trying to keep him here on a rebuilding team.

Cam/morrow/2nd for mclemore/tolliver for example doesn't make the team worse.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#800 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:43 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
bondom34 wrote:That said, if there's no good moves, no worries, it's been a bridge year and no need to rush.



It is a bridge year from contending to rebuilding. It didn't have to a bridge year. They could have gone into rebuilding right away instead of wasting a year. Next year could be completely wasted year #2 and then Russ walks.

As long you're winning games and making the playoffs there's no such thing as a wasted year. Or Did we waste the last 10 years?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.

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