Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards

[Upper Decker]

I think it was obvious they were going to have to get rid of a 1st to off load Nicholson, just wished it was an '18 1st.

I wanna be optimistic and see how Bogdan performs as a bench player, but his numbers are NOT encouraging. Worst part is, if he somehow actually efficiently produces people will actually think Grunfeld is good.

Not possible because with the benefit of hindsight, Bogdan will be scooped up by another team in free agency. This is a loss either way. Either he is great and can't be resigned because Yawn's 16M contract, or he's so-so and proves to be not worth a 1st in a loaded draft.

[gtn130]

Bogdanovic had to play vs starters, will be much more efficient off the bench. Like I said he's no Ginobili but he's more than qualified to play the Mike Miller/Kyle Korver role.

And he'll have Oubre next to him to guard the harder defensive matchup on the wing.

Bogdanovic is a career 36% from 3 on pretty low volume. Not sure I see the Kyle Korver comp.

Or Mike Miller, for that matter. He seems pretty one-dimensional

Yeah, peak Mike Miller was a super valuable, useful, versatile player. Found this interesting although tangential to this thread:

Over his career while getting starter minutes, Mike Miller had a positive or neutral overall Net Rating in 9 different seasons - and he played on a bunch of bad teams. That's pretty crazy. With the Wizards in 2010 when the team was a disaster he had a Net Rating of +4.

If he came up in this era, he'd have made a boatload of money.

[heatcharger]

I'd give this trade a B. Yes, we had to give up a 1st round pick to offload a bad contract that was just signed, but we got badly needed bench scoring. If Ernie could find a way to flip Burke + 2nd rounder for a better backup PG, I'd be more comfortable.

Also, can this McCollough kid play? We could seriously use a young, athletic big who can step away from the basket. Let's see if Brooks tries to work him into the rotation.

[80sballboy]

Bogdanovic had to play vs starters, will be much more efficient off the bench. Like I said he's no Ginobili but he's more than qualified to play the Mike Miller/Kyle Korver role.

And he'll have Oubre next to him to guard the harder defensive matchup on the wing.

I'm ok with it. He's going to play mainly 4 instead of Jason Smith and playing with Mahinmi and Oubre, two good defenders. Doesn't address backcourt, but I'm guessing they are working on it.

[stevemcqueen1]

If Bogdanovic solves the shooting issue, maybe we'll see Sato play PG full time.

That's what I'm hoping.

I'm actively looking for silver linings because I don't like this deal. I really wanted us to keep our pick this year.

[pcbothwel]

McCollough is the type of player you hope to draft with a late 1st lol. He literally was a late 1st round pick. Plus we got a shooter that we needed, and dumped Nicholson. I can't believe people are complaining about this

THIS!

I DO NOT LIKE BOJAN (See my previous posts)... But McCollough is worth a pick between 25-35.

I just cant see the justification. Lou Will and Barton are signed through next year, so both their teams can hold out for better deals. But Bojan is a FA to be that is simply a 8th man off the bench. I'd offer our 1st only if they throw in McCullough.

[Meliorus]

I will only support this trade if McCullough is getting minutes in the playoffs 1 year from now.

[80sballboy]

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[NatP4]

It should be

Wall Sato
Beal Bojan
Porter Oubre
Keef McCullough
Gortat Mahinmi

I'm telling you guys, he got the exact type of talent you would pick with that late 1st and added a scorer while ridding us of a terrible contract, there is literally nothing to complain about on this one

[Upper Decker]

Bogdanovic is a career 36% from 3 on pretty low volume. Not sure I see the Kyle Korver comp.

Or Mike Miller, for that matter. He seems pretty one-dimensional

Yeah, peak Mike Miller was a super valuable, useful, versatile player. Found this interesting although tangential to this thread:

Over his career while getting starter minutes, Mike Miller had a positive or neutral overall Net Rating in 9 different seasons - and he played on a bunch of bad teams. That's pretty crazy. With the Wizards in 2010 when the team was a disaster he had a Net Rating of +4.

If he came up in this era, he'd have made a boatload of money.

As the season wore on, Mike Miller WOULD NOT SHOOT unless he was wide the bleep open because he didn't want to have a poor shooting percentage. He was a walking corpse that season.

[Kanyewest]

Marcus Thornton has a no trade clause and could block the Wizards + Nets trade if he wanted to.

http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4937/the-2016-17-nba-all-no-trade-team

The final category is made up of 14 players on one-year contracts who are commonly referred to as One-Year Birds.
Such players, in other words, possess one-year deals and can't be traded without their consent because they've signed with the same team two seasons (or more) in a row and would have to forfeit their free-agent Bird rights if traded elsewhere before the end of the current season.

[J-Ves]

Marcus Thornton has a no trade clause and could block the Wizards + Nets trade if he wanted to.

http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4937/the-2016-17-nba-all-no-trade-team

The final category is made up of 14 players on one-year contracts who are commonly referred to as One-Year Birds.
Such players, in other words, possess one-year deals and can't be traded without their consent because they've signed with the same team two seasons (or more) in a row and would have to forfeit their free-agent Bird rights if traded elsewhere before the end of the current season.

lol save us Marcus!

[Ed Wood]

Marcus Thornton has a no trade clause and could block the Wizards + Nets trade if he wanted to.

This is, in fact, both the funniest and the best possible outcome here as the trade isn't really providing the team with a ton of upside and even if the no-trade is a product of the contract type and so wasn't actually offered willingly to Marcus Thornton, the press of having Marcus Thornton no-trade your ass into space would just be the worst, the worst of all time.

[Error Afflalo]

:banghead:

Gave up a 1st round pick just to get rid of Nicholson.

Nicholson is a sunk cost, but the fact that Ernie gets to keep giving up assets to clean up his messes is what's most disheartening.

In the end we traded our 2017 1st for a third of a season of a guy we can't afford to re-sign in order to rid ourselves of a guy who shouldn't have been signed in the first place. All of this at a time when our team is about to be very expensive and we're desperate for young, affordable talent with upside. I bet this moron expects to be patted on the back for it, too. Sigh...

[Ed Wood]

We still need to find a replacement for Burke.

There's a D-League full of fish out there.

[gtn130]

Or Mike Miller, for that matter. He seems pretty one-dimensional

Yeah, peak Mike Miller was a super valuable, useful, versatile player. Found this interesting although tangential to this thread:

Over his career while getting starter minutes, Mike Miller had a positive or neutral overall Net Rating in 9 different seasons - and he played on a bunch of bad teams. That's pretty crazy. With the Wizards in 2010 when the team was a disaster he had a Net Rating of +4.

If he came up in this era, he'd have made a boatload of money.

As the season wore on, Mike Miller WOULD NOT SHOOT unless he was wide the bleep open because he didn't want to have a poor shooting percentage. He was a walking corpse that season.

This will be my last Mike Miller post lol, but he had a nearly identical season in terms of shots and USG% in 2008-09, and he maintained an almost identical USG% from 2009-2014 - it varied from 14.4% to 14.9% over six seasons, so the Mike Miller you're complaining about did quite well for himself in terms of overall efficiency and on/off numbers. He was definitively and verifiably helping his team quite a bit for the vast majority of his career.

[NatP4]

:banghead:

Gave up a 1st round pick just to get rid of Nicholson.

Nicholson is a sunk cost, but the fact that Ernie gets to keep giving up assets to clean up his messes is what's most disheartening.

In the end we traded our 2017 1st for a third of a season of a guy we can't afford to re-sign in order to rid ourselves of a guy who shouldn't have been signed in the first place. All of this at a time when our team is about to be very expensive and we're desperate for young, affordable talent with upside. I bet this moron expects to be patted on the back for it, too. Sigh...

Young affordable talent with upside, you mean like MCCULLOUGH?

[mhd]

Ugh. At least Lou Williams, he was signed for next year. This is a pure rental. Any teams with cap space are going to sign him to a big offer sheet, and we'll be forced to pass. EG is such a freaking moron for signing Nicholson in the first place. Will we ever be able to enjoy Dat's draft analysis if EG keeps trading 1st round picks?

[NatP4]

ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god

[Wizardspride]

ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god

Yep.

McCullough is comparable to a 20-something pick in this draft.

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