Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2)

dangermouse · Post #841 » by **dangermouse** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:22 am

Can't screw up the draft if you don't have picks

verbal8 · Post #842 » by **verbal8** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:58 am

J-Ves wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
leswizards wrote:
I can't stand Skip Bayless. I am perfectly fine with EG trolling him. EG happens to be right in this instance of trolling.

I don't think that's EG.

Its a fake account, but there are real NBA players that follow him. I wonder if they know its fake?

It is the "Alternate EG". The owner of that account probably would do a better job as the Wizards GM.

leswizards · Post #843 » by **leswizards** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:03 pm

A day ago or so, I was convinced that the Wizards were going to get Lou Williams, and I was prepared to write a post heaping as much praise as possible on EG given his excessively long tenure with the Wizards. However, after the Bogdanovic trade, I am back to bemoaning the fact that EG is the Wizards GM, and wondering what it is going to take for Ted to fire this incredibly incompetent POS.

tontoz · Post #844 » by **tontoz** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:56 pm

leswizards wrote:A day ago or so, I was convinced that the Wizards were going to get Lou Williams, and I was prepared to write a post heaping as much praise as possible on EG given his excessively long tenure with the Wizards. However, after the Bogdanovic trade, I am back to bemoaning the fact that EG is the Wizards GM, and wondering what it is going to take for Ted to fire this incredibly incompetent POS.

Why don't you stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel?

Post #845 » by **Rafael122** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:29 pm

leswizards wrote:A day ago or so, I was convinced that the Wizards were going to get Lou Williams, and I was prepared to write a post heaping as much praise as possible on EG given his excessively long tenure with the Wizards. However, after the Bogdanovic trade, I am back to bemoaning the fact that EG is the Wizards GM, and wondering what it is going to take for Ted to fire this incredibly incompetent POS.

The Wizards front office doesn't have many leaks. Just look at how many times the Celtics are involved in rumored trade talks, someone talks. That being said, we don't know if Ernie approached the Lakers with the same package and Magic rejected it. Brewer's on the books until 2018. Nicholson is signed for 3 more years. Not to mention the Lakers seem to have 5-6 guys that they have to play at the 4 and 5 so there's no room for Nicholson, he'd be a waste of money and a roster spot.

We're all sitting here thinking that a pick in the mid-20s and Nicholson's albatross of a contract is somehow good value. It's not.

leswizards · Post #846 » by **leswizards** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:18 pm

Rafael122 wrote:We're all sitting here thinking that a pick in the mid-20s and Nicholson's albatross of a contract is somehow good value. It's not.

The Wizards first round pick should have higher value than the Rockets first round pick. The reason that Wizards were unable to outbid the Rockets was because apparently either Nicholson had to be part of the deal, or EG could not come up with a salary match with Lou Williams. My anger at EG stems either from the fact that the Wizards had to get rid of the deal EG just signed this off season, or that EG is not creative enough to figure out how to work a deal that makes salaries match.

queridiculo · Post #847 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:26 pm

I think ultimately it came down to the fact that nearly $20 million for a late first rounder isn't very palatable unless you're as desperate for picks as the Nets.

From a salary cap perspective nothing changed for the Lakers by flipping Lou Williams for Brewer and a first. For a team that's not going anywhere that's a good deal.

I'm curious whether Brewer is going to seek a buyout, might be a decent player to pick up for the minimum for the remainder of the season.

Then again at 33 years old there's probably not much of a market for his services, probably better off taking the Lakers money.

CobraCommander · Post #848 » by **CobraCommander** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:12 pm

So we finally getting traction with our starters and there were players that were apparently available that we could have used like Boogie and Noels and we got Bog....and yall think we shouldn't be mad as hell. THIS YEAR COULD have been special...we may have failed to beat the Cavs or warriors but at least we would have either been able to say we are ready for the future OR that we went all in this year. WE DID NEITHER. Wall, Beal and Otto are sitting here thinking why is next year going to be different? Wait for it...our big signing this off season is going to bring Otto Back...which is cool...but otto here now. What we gonna do to get better than today EG? Why do you go half way and then fall back to mediocrity?

closg00 · Post #849 » by **closg00** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:06 pm

CobraCommander wrote:So we finally getting traction with our starters and there were players that were apparently available that we could have used like Boogie and Noels and we got Bog....and yall think we shouldn't be mad as hell. THIS YEAR COULD have been special...we may have failed to beat the Cavs or warriors but at least we would have either been able to say we are ready for the future OR that we went all in this year. WE DID NEITHER. Wall, Beal and Otto are sitting here thinking why is next year going to be different? Wait for it...our big signing this off season is going to bring Otto Back...which is cool...but otto here now. What we gonna do to get better than today EG? Why do you go half way and then fall back to mediocrity?

Gortat/ Smith/ Mahinmi are an aging front court with nothing coming-up behind it at the 4/5. The Wizards could have added a next-gen PG or PF/C with the 1st round pick they dumped.

CobraCommander · Post #850 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:00 am

closg00 wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:So we finally getting traction with our starters and there were players that were apparently available that we could have used like Boogie and Noels and we got Bog....and yall think we shouldn't be mad as hell. THIS YEAR COULD have been special...we may have failed to beat the Cavs or warriors but at least we would have either been able to say we are ready for the future OR that we went all in this year. WE DID NEITHER. Wall, Beal and Otto are sitting here thinking why is next year going to be different? Wait for it...our big signing this off season is going to bring Otto Back...which is cool...but otto here now. What we gonna do to get better than today EG? Why do you go half way and then fall back to mediocrity?

Gortat/ Smith/ Mahinmi are an aging front court with nothing coming-up behind it at the 4/5. The Wizards could have added a next-gen PG or PF/C with the 1st round pick they dumped.

More evidence - of EG illogical GM skills

milellie111 · Post #851 » by **milellie111** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:16 am

leswizards wrote:A day ago or so, I was convinced that the Wizards were going to get Lou Williams, and I was prepared to write a post heaping as much praise as possible on EG given his excessively long tenure with the Wizards. However, after the Bogdanovic trade, I am back to bemoaning the fact that EG is the Wizards GM, and wondering what it is going to take for Ted to fire this incredibly incompetent POS.

This team is in contention for the conference finals this year. I'd say the GM has done a pretty fine job.

leswizards · Post #852 » by **leswizards** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:57 am

milellie111 wrote:This team is in contention for the conference finals this year. I'd say the GM has done a pretty fine job.

And last year when they weren't in contention, you were still saying he had done a fine job. So basically, you are here to say EG has done a fine job regardless of the facts.

Dat2U · Post #853 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:27 am

milellie111 wrote:
leswizards wrote:A day ago or so, I was convinced that the Wizards were going to get Lou Williams, and I was prepared to write a post heaping as much praise as possible on EG given his excessively long tenure with the Wizards. However, after the Bogdanovic trade, I am back to bemoaning the fact that EG is the Wizards GM, and wondering what it is going to take for Ted to fire this incredibly incompetent POS.

This team is in contention for the conference finals this year. I'd say the GM has done a pretty fine job.

Don't you have some Monumental work that needs to be done?

payitforward · Post #854 » by **payitforward** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:01 am

milellie111 wrote:This team is in contention for the conference finals this year. I'd say the GM has done a pretty fine job.

What would make you say we are in contention for the conference finals?

Do you mean that we are certain to make the playoffs, and that, hey, if you are in the playoffs you are automatically "in contention for the conference finals?" Is that it?

Or, do you mean that we are certain to have home court advantage in R1 of the playoffs, and that, hey, with that you are a virtual lock to win the first round. And if you get into the 2d round, why, for sure you are "in contention for the conference finals?" Is that it?

Or, do you mean that the playoffs start tomorrow, we just didn't notice, & we have 3d place locked up, and that, hey.... etc., etc. "in contention for the conference finals?"

Is that what you mean? That's really great. I'm really glad to hear it! Thanks for stopping by.

In fact, Millie, I'd say this is the first time ever that you've checked in after a loss. So you deserve special congratulations today. Tell me, what's the explanation? Is today your birthday?

It is? Awesome! How does it feel to be 12?

AFM · Post #855 » by **AFM** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:09 am

Please be nice to Ellie. It's not her fault she gets awfully defensive over her family. We all do. Plus she's a looker.

AFM · Post #856 » by **AFM** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:11 am

payitforward wrote:
milellie111 wrote:This team is in contention for the conference finals this year. I'd say the GM has done a pretty fine job.

What would make you say we are in contention for the conference finals?

Do you mean that we are certain to make the playoffs, and that, hey, if you are in the playoffs you are automatically "in contention for the conference finals?" Is that it?

Or, do you mean that we are certain to have home court advantage in R1 of the playoffs, and that, hey, with that you are a virtual lock to win the first round. And if you get into the 2d round, why, for sure you are "in contention for the conference finals?" Is that it?

Or, do you mean that the playoffs start tomorrow, we just didn't notice, & we have 3d place locked up, and that, hey.... etc., etc. "in contention for the conference finals?"

Is that what you mean? That's really great. I'm really glad to hear it! Thanks for stopping by.

In fact, Millie, I'd say this is the first time ever that you've checked in after a loss. So you deserve special congratulations today. Tell me, what's the explanation? Is today your birthday?

It is? Awesome! How does it feel to be 12?

Isn't it weird, how we've all been calling her "millie", when that's not her username? It's milellie. You know, as in Mil Ellie. Ellie Leonsis...

europeanfan · Post #857 » by **europeanfan** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:46 am

So there's report saying that Mahinmi's back is hurting... What a terrific acquisition...

I couldn't stop dreaming about a Mahinmi trade before the deadline, but he probably wouldn't have passed a physical anyway...

Good luck salvaging that one Ernie... He has no fundamental to fall back on, he could only defend thanks to his athleticism, if his body is breaking down he's Asik on a worse contract.

queridiculo · Post #858 » by **queridiculo** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:32 am

2 years in a row Ernie basically had one job, build a decent bench.

We all know how that worked out.

closg00 · Post #859 » by **closg00** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:23 pm

The NBA's best and worst teams are calling-up PG's and a couple have been signed. Why the heck weren't we in on trying some of these guys out? Pretty-much anyone is going to be an upgrade. Maybe we'll get Jennings.

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milellie111 · Post #860 » by **milellie111** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 11:05 pm

payitforward wrote:
milellie111 wrote:This team is in contention for the conference finals this year. I'd say the GM has done a pretty fine job.

What would make you say we are in contention for the conference finals?

Do you mean that we are certain to make the playoffs, and that, hey, if you are in the playoffs you are automatically "in contention for the conference finals?" Is that it?

Or, do you mean that we are certain to have home court advantage in R1 of the playoffs, and that, hey, with that you are a virtual lock to win the first round. And if you get into the 2d round, why, for sure you are "in contention for the conference finals?" Is that it?

Or, do you mean that the playoffs start tomorrow, we just didn't notice, & we have 3d place locked up, and that, hey.... etc., etc. "in contention for the conference finals?"

Is that what you mean? That's really great. I'm really glad to hear it! Thanks for stopping by.

In fact, Millie, I'd say this is the first time ever that you've checked in after a loss. So you deserve special congratulations today. Tell me, what's the explanation? Is today your birthday?

It is? Awesome! How does it feel to be 12?

Behind Cleveland, the Wizards are the best team in the East. The Wizards are the scariest team in the East. This was BEFORE the monumental moves made within the past week.