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Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here?

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Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#1 » by potatoaim » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:05 am

Honestly? It should be clear as day to everybody at this point. Its no coincidence that this team CONSTANTLY looks light years better when those two are off the floor. Dump them both this off season and build around KCP.
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Re: Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#2 » by Natopher » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:07 am

I agree with you 100% and only have this to add: Beno > Reggie. #BenoForBackup
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Post#3 » by DBC10 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:09 am

RJ should be benched if we really are committed to winning more games because he ain't going to cut it right now.

Dre, I still have some stupid blind faith since he's a large body and he has moments where his defense comes alive. The main culprit for me is always RJ first before we go down the ladder. Part of the reason is RJ commands the bulk of usage rate on our team by a looooong shot.
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Re: Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#4 » by MrBigShot » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:11 am

For Reggie at least it seems very evident that he's not the player he was last year & this team is just far better with Ish Smith at the helm. Everybody seems to have been in agreement of that for a while now. I was one of Reggie's biggest defenders when people were calling for his head 3-5 games in to his return, but at this point we've had quite a while to let him get acclimated an the proof is in the pudding. And KCP in particular seems to benefit heavily from his increased role when Reggie isn't on the floor.
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Re: Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#5 » by sinnombre2323 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:12 am

Just Beno>reggie, Boban>drummond and we're legit again

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Re: Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#6 » by detroitKG » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:14 am

Agreed on Reggie. Disagree on Dre..getting Reggie away from him would be addition by subtraction for Dre and his game.
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Re: Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#7 » by JD43320 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:15 am

Reggie's problem has been the injury. Dre's problem is that he is lazy and lacks skill.
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Post#8 » by Natopher » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:19 am

JD43320 wrote:Reggie's problem has been the injury. Dre's problem is that he is lazy and lacks skill.

I disagree with the Reggie part. The injury has definitely hobbled him, but when he's healthy, he's still a huge ball hog. Reggie's game is really only good for himself and whoever he's running P&R with. Everyone else gets hung out to dry. And KCP is definitely better than Reggie, so there's no way I'd want even a healthy Reggie on this team.
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Re: Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#9 » by treefi » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:24 am

Tonight's game was shocking. Andre and Reggie must feel like crap right now.. (i hope..)
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Post#10 » by potatoaim » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:25 am

JD43320 wrote:Reggie's problem has been the injury. Dre's problem is that he is lazy and lacks skill.


IDK, even when he was healthy he couldnt guard a guy in a wheelchair and too often played hero ball. He was clutch at the end of some games, though, I will give him that. But thats about it. Healthy or not, hes not a starting PG on a contender.
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Post#11 » by Natopher » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:26 am

treefi wrote:Tonight's game was shocking. Andre and Reggie must feel like crap right now.. (i hope..)

In all honesty, I think you're giving them far too much credit.
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Post#12 » by The Moose » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:26 am

I'm ready to move on from RJ, not Andre
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Post#13 » by MotownMadness » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:26 am

Drummond can still dominate depending on matchups but he's really struggling with the way bigs shoot now. He has no ability to defend it. Reggie is a complete mess but yes both are definitely a problem.
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Post#14 » by potatoaim » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:27 am

treefi wrote:Tonight's game was shocking. Andre and Reggie must feel like crap right now.. (i hope..)


I honestly dont think either GAF. They are way too dumb and paid way too much to care.
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Post#15 » by detroitKG » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:28 am

MotownMadness wrote:Drummond can still dominate depending on matchups but he's really struggling with the way bigs shoot now. He has no ability to defend it. Reggie is a complete mess but yes both are definitely a problem.


Yea tonight for example was about match ups Kaminksy was playing C for them even though he's a 4, so Leuer made more sense down the stretch..I know people will trash Dre for not playing down the stretch, but it was the right call by SVG.
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Re: Is there anymore doubt that Andre and Reggie are the main problems here? 

Post#16 » by 7r5ur » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:37 am

I'm definitely ready to move on from Reggie because his game hurts other players (particularly KCP)... but like others have said I still think Dre is better than what we could get in return for him (just look at what Cousins got). I have to wonder if we were to patch up that defensive hole at PG, if Dre's deficiencies on that end would be significantly minimized. He's still probably the best rebounder in the game, and gets us more effortless buckets than anyone. Move him for the right piece, sure... Otherwise? nah.

Our best hope is that Reggie is willing to take a smaller role and come of the bench where he can be more of a gunner. Maybe fewer minutes would help his injury and conditioning issues.
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Post#17 » by In SVG We Trust » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:44 am

I can't believe how people are still that blind with Dre. I really hope other GMs got your eyes too guys.
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Post#18 » by MotownMadness » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:45 am

In SVG We Trust wrote:I can't believe how people are still that blind with Dre. I really hope other GMs got your eyes too guys.

I don't think anyone is blind to Dre, he's been terrible
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Post#19 » by joedumars1 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:52 am

In SVG We Trust wrote:I can't believe how people are still that blind with Dre. I really hope other GMs got your eyes too guys.

They did get offered Val and a 1st. He has some nice value and should for awhile. A 23 year old athletic freak who can put up 20/20 games is always an intriguing player
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Post#20 » by mattao313 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:06 am

In SVG We Trust wrote:I can't believe how people are still that blind with Dre. I really hope other GMs got your eyes too guys.

For real, him and Reggie both are terrible, Drummond get out played by freakin Baynes regularly.
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