[Marks] A loophole in the CBA could allow Golden State to sign Andrew Bogut

Post #81 » by **zimpy27** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:57 am

Zaza took less to be there and now may become a bench player.. game 7 baby

Simmons25 · Post #82 » by **Simmons25** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:04 am

NBAfan3024 wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
NBAfan3024 wrote:Think he would need to have bad feelings if he signed for cavs...would like to think he wouldn't go to the team that he suffered from last year but who knows.

I wouldn't say he suffered due to the Cavs per se because he got hurt; however, the aforementioned injury played a factor in GSW letting him go. That may have stung. Eh, who knows...

Would be hard for GS fans to take to see him go to cavs but he has that right as a FA. Just be a shame to see. If he can choose GS you would think he chooses them over cavs but who knows. He might see him as the missing piece

Why would Bogut choose GS over the Cavs? If anything he will choose the Cavs as revenge. Bogut was pissed at what conspired during last season with a group of his teammates recruiting KD behind half the team's back. Even called out the Front Office in the playoffs on why they would be trying to break up a 73-9 win team to get Durant... only to find out it was his teammates doing it and keeping it from those in the team they knew would get traded as a result.

There isn't a hope in hell of Bogut wanting to go back and play with those guys. Very good chance he will want to go to the Cavs though.

Post #83 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:08 am

There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

MoMan24 · Post #84 » by **MoMan24** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:13 am

Simmons25 wrote:
NBAfan3024 wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
I wouldn't say he suffered due to the Cavs per se because he got hurt; however, the aforementioned injury played a factor in GSW letting him go. That may have stung. Eh, who knows...

Would be hard for GS fans to take to see him go to cavs but he has that right as a FA. Just be a shame to see. If he can choose GS you would think he chooses them over cavs but who knows. He might see him as the missing piece

Why would Bogut choose GS over the Cavs? If anything he will choose the Cavs as revenge. Bogut was pissed at what conspired during last season with a group of his teammates recruiting KD behind half the team's back. Even called out the Front Office in the playoffs on why they would be trying to break up a 73-9 win team to get Durant... only to find out it was his teammates doing it and keeping it from those in the team they knew would get traded as a result.

There isn't a hope in hell of Bogut wanting to go back and play with those guys. Very good chance he will want to go to the Cavs though.

He also said something to the tone of the front office being 2 faced acting like they care about you and smiling and laughing with you but are plotting your departure all along. This was earlier this season before playing GSW. I get where your coming from his mindset might be "you think your a better team now, ok I will show you" and go to the Cavs and be a double agent while setting those bone crushing screens on his former teammates who couldn't wait for KD.

mvpshaq32 · Post #85 » by **mvpshaq32** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:18 am

jbk1234 wrote:There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

too late for that. confirmed by Woj

Post #86 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:19 am

mvpshaq32 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

too late for that. confirmed by Woj

Confirmed that the NBA would interpret it that way or might?

MoMan24 · Post #87 » by **MoMan24** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:21 am

jbk1234 wrote:There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

I agree you shouldn't be able to have acquire a player you traded away for exactly a year to the day he was traded away regardless of how many teams he was on within that year. The competition committee will probably fix the wording so there is no doubt about what the rule itself. You cant trade a key player to acquire or make cap space another key player and than somehow have both those players with over six weeks until the playoffs. That is flawed and I don't think anyone can argue with that.

mvpshaq32 · Post #88 » by **mvpshaq32** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:23 am

jbk1234 wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

too late for that. confirmed by Woj

Confirmed that the NBA would interpret it that way or might?

Read on Twitter

Post #89 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:24 am

mvpshaq32 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
mvpshaq32 wrote:
too late for that. confirmed by Woj

Confirmed that the NBA would interpret it that way or might?

Read on Twitter

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor[/tweet]

Yeah I Googled it after I asked. Still subject to Silver signing off. In any event, it sounds like Bogut doesn't want to go back.

Simmons25 · Post #90 » by **Simmons25** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:27 am

MoMan24 wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
NBAfan3024 wrote:Would be hard for GS fans to take to see him go to cavs but he has that right as a FA. Just be a shame to see. If he can choose GS you would think he chooses them over cavs but who knows. He might see him as the missing piece

Why would Bogut choose GS over the Cavs? If anything he will choose the Cavs as revenge. Bogut was pissed at what conspired during last season with a group of his teammates recruiting KD behind half the team's back. Even called out the Front Office in the playoffs on why they would be trying to break up a 73-9 win team to get Durant... only to find out it was his teammates doing it and keeping it from those in the team they knew would get traded as a result.

There isn't a hope in hell of Bogut wanting to go back and play with those guys. Very good chance he will want to go to the Cavs though.

He also said something to the tone of the front office being 2 faced acting like they care about you and smiling and laughing with you but are plotting your departure all along. This was earlier this season before playing GSW. I get where your coming from his mindset might be "you think your a better team now, ok I will show you" and go to the Cavs and be a double agent while setting those bone crushing screens on his former teammates who couldn't wait for KD.

Yeah that was before the Golden State game... a comment was made by a reporter that there was talk about Bogut's durability and that it originated from within the Warriors organisation. Bogut's response was that the league is full of fakes that will smile and shake your hand and ask about your family... whilst knifing you.

No way in hell Bogut goes back to the Warriors.

DoItALL9 · Post #91 » by **DoItALL9** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:29 am

What player ever got traded by his team then came back in the same season and helped them win a championship?

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durden_tyler · Post #92 » by **durden_tyler** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:40 am

He hates the Cavs and Warriors and he's one of the most competitive players out there. Does San Antonio have the cap space to sign him?

DoItALL9 · Post #93 » by **DoItALL9** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:42 am

MoMan24 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

I agree you shouldn't be able to have acquire a player you traded away for exactly a year to the day he was traded away regardless of how many teams he was on within that year. The competition committee will probably fix the wording so there is no doubt about what the rule itself. You cant trade a key player to acquire or make cap space another key player and than somehow have both those players with over six weeks until the playoffs. That is flawed and I don't think anyone can argue with that.

The intent of the rule was to stop conspiring teams and players from linking back up after a trade. That's not what happened here.

wco81 · Post #94 » by **wco81** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:45 am

I think Warriors may have concerns about bringing him back since Zaza and McGee took vet minimums and have been with the team all year.

If you take away minutes from them, they might not be willing to return next season for minimum salaries. Warriors cap situation will still require players on minimums, including also West.

So they may be reluctant to approach Bogut, especially if Bogut has some resentment about how he feels he was treated.

Post #95 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:46 am

DoItALL9 wrote:What player ever got traded by his team then came back I the same season and helped them win a championship?

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Fair point. Do we even want to sign Bogut and give up on Larry Sanders coming back?

Zvaart · Post #96 » by **Zvaart** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:01 am

I love Bogut, but even if we wants to came back it wouldn't be fair for Zaza.

I would like to see him going to Boston, though.

Of course, a small part of me wants him to rejoin gsw, just to see how this place burns :evil:

K_chile22 · Post #97 » by **K_chile22** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:04 am

The guy is shooting 47% within 3 feet and has one of the lowest block rates of his career. GS doesn't need him. Zaza is better at this point.

Mylie10 · Post #98 » by **Mylie10** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:05 am

I would want Bogut back as a Warrior fan, but not sure he'd play much.

I'd like him to sign with the Celtics if not.

Prius · Post #99 » by **Prius** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:28 am

Bogut would play a cheerleader role with Warriors, only play garbage minutes as well as filling in in case of an injury. I'm sure his body would be ecstatic about that as well as his fingers for wearing another championship ring.

Upperclass · Post #100 » by **Upperclass** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:39 am

Bogut ABSOLUTELY fits. He knows the offense. He's exactly the same as Zaza but has alternating plusses and minuses, so he would do well as the backup. McGee fits as the 3rd big perfectly, though i think he would be the 2nd big until playoff time where mistakes matter greatly. Damian Jones as the project player. Bogut signing to counteract the Derrick Williams and Deron Williams signings for Cleveland. This needs to happen for GSW.